Guys, people are too stupid and naive so scammers like Bankera can scam them. It's not that i told you so (which i did quite some time ago here in this thread) but every half intelligent person who knows a little about business knew immediately that what they were saying was fairy tails. And the way they were saying was just straight up funny, no clue or whatsoever. Like listening 12 year old kids opening a bank, very similar. The whole idea was idiotic to begin with...

I feel pity for people loosing money but let this be a lesson, don't invest into something you can't understand.
Take care everybody

Some of you here still don't understand. This project is a complete fail and would/will never be successful. Few incompetent kids competing with iTunes, Google, Spotify, Beatport etc. etc...

And now they are redesigning their website lol. What a bunch of dummies. Mateusz is a non successful, inexperienced kiddo, that does not understand what it means to run a business. Anyone can "oversee development of software", but making it a business, takes a little more than new website design and few lines of code.

LOL. Who gives a fuck about new design, if you have failed at the most important thing to make any business/website live. Traffic, you know, people who actually come to your site, sign up and use your crap.

As i said before bunch of kids don't have a slightest idea what they are doing. As soon as i noticed incompetence i sold my shares, thankfully didn't loose money but i have warned people here before. Kids cannot and will not ever make a good business.

Bankera is a classic con artist project. Anyone falling for this shit is just plain stupid, i said that 2 years ago and by checking their "progress" just shows a bunch of incompetent imbecils preying on naive people.


This will never be a "bank"  and the whole promise on integrating Bankera with current payment system was just a public stunt. GTFO before you loose everything

Breakout coin was a project made by incompetent "poker professionals" who did not know how to run a business. Their idiotic approach building fairytail "enterprise" just showed they had no clue or whatsoever how to start a business and what makes business succeed. Bunch of gambling loosers, id say.


Thanks god i got out in time, just feel sorry for naive people holding a bag. Still, if i ever see Johny Chan in person, i will break his jaw like instantly lol.

Lets talk business. How much users Suncontract has? How many households are depending on Suncontract platform for their electricity needs? How much do the actually save with electricity bills, if any - i need to see authentic reviews!?

All is see is some meetings and tours and "development". I heard SNC is expanding to new countries. How the fuck will they expand, if they can't handle small Slovenian market, how will they do anything on any larger markets?!

They aren't even capable of creating a "average Joe simple" website in Slovenian language, for fucks sake. Can you imagine that? You start "revolutionary platform" and aren't even capable of presenting and communicationg your service in targeted country in appropriate language. No one takes them seriously, (only naive people) that's for sure, even investors, just look at the price. Any douche can make a website that sells his/hers products and services, it's not hard for real and if you wish to succeed you need that 100%, NO other way. So there are no marketing pages that would help with user growth, just some mumbo jumbo, partnerships with everyone, everywhere and all the time. But no real progress on their business side. I wish to see the numbers. Or at least i wish too see some advertisements, because this is the only way this project isn't dead when they run out off the money, which if it didn't happen, it will soon... They are just paving the way so that some capable competitor will run then over like they didn't even existed.

Please enlighten me and explain to me i am wrong, i can't wait.

Ya'all don't seem to understand that kids don't have experience or knowledge to make such ideas/projects actually work on the competitive market. They keep employing kids, not professionals and this is how they dig a grave for themselves. You need people with knowledge and long years of experience to know what the fuck you are doing and how to get there. I've seen it soon after ICO, how they managed everything... It's really unfortunate how people with no clue on how successful businesses work, started with such projects. I hate to be rude, but this is just simply a fact. Let me give you an example... They were adding artists one by one, which i don't have a problem with, however, having artists will never make the platform succeed. It's the buyers/listeners who will. Inventor job is to bring as much traffic/users to join as possible and make them stay, having artists is secondary and can be substituted with buying music rights for the start. When you start hitting numbers with active users, guess what happens?! Singers, musicians, even more famous ones will come naturally without you even asking them. This is the basic principle of how things should go not the other way around. If you are unable to bring buyers (in this case listeners) everything else is a waste of time, no matter how many developers you have... Oh and no one gives a fuck about technology especially if it doesn't do what it supposed to - make income for content producers, which i can assure you it doesn't.

Similarly, dumb crypto teams are developing their own PayPal's and Stripe's, announcing how many businesses/merchants now accept money through their stupid coin payment processor and people are cheering them up, LOL. It's not about the merchants, it's about the users who actually pay with this shit coins, which there are none. Barely anyone seems to understand that, but you should if you are investing your hard earned money.

Anyway have a nice day

This is what happens when amateurs go into business... It's the same with 99% of crypto.

I think the best way for them is to start refunding ICO funds to investors because they apparently aren't capable running a business and surely won't be capable executing on their promise. 

Whenever i hear stuff like "Our company will change/disrupt the online e-commerce grocery sector" etc.. i can't avoid being extremely skeptical. If the concept would have any real advantage (and therefore traction) for users, i am sure company would have some social presence already or at least some traffic on their website. For now it looks like they don't have either so it's another "great idea" which is highly likely it will never work. But there's gonna be an ICO lol.

I want to see usage, number of customers (regular ones), marketplace revenue, etc. until I see that it's a childish project and it does not mean a single fuck. People, stop investing into such fairy tails

As for the Suncontract, they should focus on creating platform usable for average Joe, who does not know or care about cryptocurrencies and only wishes to get cheaper electricity.

You are directly promoting BNK as security right here on the forum, let alone your other marketing activities, which clearly communicate what they are not supposed to (since you want to claim your coin is a utility token). If you don't understand that I find it really amusing and another reason, there is no future with bankera scheme.

People, don't be naive, this fallacy won't end well and for the ones who invested obviously.

Yea naive people will be burnt. This Vantau "bank" is a complete joke (and this just shows how serious they are in building "bank of the new blockchain era"), while they state in WP, that Bankera will be the gateway for EU central bank and others... LOL Anyone believing this is either a 12-year old kid or dumb as fuck.

Check their YT videos, interviews and stuff they post - nothing contains any substance, just some general gibberish and only marketing material for sheeps - in that they are really good at. Its similar to listening onecoine scammers few years back - no clue or whatsoever.

I asked for a few simple explanations few posts back and they didn't answer, and I have a feeling they don't even know.

Hi Bankera Team. I saw your finance specialist Jonas yesterday. Does he have a surname? Also is it possible to see some of his past credentials and work?  Id expect a bit more detailed explanation if he references himself as a financial expert for "bank of the future".

I do have another question for you to help me understand. Below is a copy of your first-page post under Services:

"Loans and deposits will be a key competitive edge as well as a core service of Bankera. Not only saving, but also current accounts will receive interest. All Bankera clients will be able to benefit from higher interest rates due to proprietary information about borrowers' cash flows as most loans will be given to business clients of its payment processing solution."

I would love to know more, how will Bankera be competitive with loans (as a core business service)? Eu banks give super cheap loans, i think it about 2% yearly. How are you going to have same or better rates but at the same time banera clients will benefit from high-interest rates? Doesn't really add up does it?

I am dying to hear an explanation because what you wrote above doesn't really have any meaning. For a core service id expect you at least know how to interpret your solutions.

"Finance specialist" Jonas. Does he have a surname?

I mean this is getting ridiculous. Some random 25-28y old boy is finance specialist with no public credentials, although he says he comes from a background of banking and audit (i guess i have to trust these "credentials"). Id expect a bit more detailed explanation if he references himself as a financial expert for "bank of the future". I mean wouldn't you? The more i look into this project, the more i see some BS con artists building some wet dream for naive people.

LOL you literary have no idea what are you talking about.

Almost one month? ICO ended January 14th

Let me help you with calculating - 14th and today is 28th so 14 days once ICO ended.

This is economics. Let's say supposedly they ban Crypto in most countries. We only need one country to support it and "this country" would realize there is a lot of money to be made and bitcoin would help their economy immensely (either tax exchanges, trades, mining etc.), so it's just not realistically possible in this money-driven world. There will always be one that will see benefit in this, because in the end it's all about the $.

What is funny though that everyone in crypto says, fuck the banks, they are scammers, they need to go, but if you think about it, bitcoin succeeded because people saw the easy way to become rich. Like the banks, everyone are the same.

You are both wrong. 8000

OK, research. Can you point me to any announcement where it says the new tokens will be issued 2-3 days after ICO is over?

Also why have both telegram groups disappeared and your support staff on the webpage gave 2 completely different answers to what you just told me. I've got the convos for both which I don't mind sharing.

If anyone is still considering investing in these please do some research beforehand.

Look at their twitter feed, no replies.
Both telegram groups have disappeared.
Original ICO smart contract was hacked which is why it was closed down. They said they'd issue new tokens within a week. It's now been 8 days and no updates.

I'd recommend having a chat with support staff on their website too, you'll quickly gauge how 'professional' this ICO is.


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Whats wrong with their support staff o website chat?

Also their telegram group works, why do would you say it disappeared?

Yea you are right. BUT every project team hopes (even if unrealistic) to get large amounts of coins from investors, and doesnt matter if they are wrong, they will still plan this way you know and avoid Kickico. I believe to get creators on platform, kickico will have to incentivise them with more aggressive approach. I am only talking about ICO-coin related projects of course.

I have simple question about KickIco regarding hosting crypto ICOs on platform. I understand KickIco will make it easy for anyone without programming skills to have an ICO, however why would a solid project that can collect 50K ETH or millions worth USD in ICO use your platform? I mean if they will have to pay 4% + 4% of their new currency, we are talking about huge amounts here. No team will be interested in this since if they are launching their own coin, i am sure they have their own programmers and rather not pay 4+4% to you.

Let suppose some project gets 50,000ETH in ICO. They will have to pay 2000ETH to KickIco, which is currently worth about 600,000USD. Actually Kickico will get Double that ammount if i also include 4% of creators new currency. How does that work? What is the incentive for creators here?

Also id like ask how will the platform accept USD, EUR, etc. fiat money payments from people who don`t and don`t want to deal with Crypocurrencies? How are payment processors fees (credit cards etc.) calculated in this?