Don't worry, the devs at BitShares are still working on the next release which is going to have several major milestones.  It will probably come out sometime in the next couple weeks.  No use wasting time wrenching on the last release.

Relax, and enjoy the holidays!

That's exactly why I invested in the decentralized Ripple = BitShares.

BitShares was born of a traditional fair launch of a POW coin (Ptotoshares), and the Protoshares coinholders are now BitShares owners who vote on who gets to be their miners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrif9uThwSY

If you are a great miner and want to mine BitShares, then apply to work for the (Ripple-style 10 sec block times and 24/7 Bitcoin 2.0 trustless asset trading) blockchain, then fill out a job application here:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?board=61.0
(these are miners who are begging to work for the public blockchain)

BitShares is currently a $44 million market cap DAC that you can come work for if you want to.  You just choose your salary, introduce yourself on the forum, and we vote you in!  BitShares will soon have milti-sig & escrow (due in the next release), and aslo due later on are DNS, voting, and a turing complete scripting language (not really a big deal, it just sounds cool (it's a buzz word that gets attention but is an easy feature for great devs like Dan or Vitalik to construct because they are a lot alike in brainpower)).  

I know, these facts sound an awful lot like hype, so they must be "hyperfacts"


Ripple is cool, but a little too centralized for my liking.  I tried and loved the split second trading, but I missed the cold wallet features of Bitcoin and BitShares.

BitShares is like the public's blockchain because you get to tell it what to do (like a powerful Asimov robot who must listen to your commands and obey you) unlike Ripple and Bitcoin.  The coin owners are in control, not the Bitcoin foundation or the Ripple preminers.

Fiat Russian Ruble to BitShares gateway to allow BitUSD vs. BitRUB trustless trading after Belarus initiated a 30% tax on currency trading and halted currency trading for 2 years:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=12555.0

www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-22/belarus-full-blown-hyperinflation-panic-blocks-news-online-stores-bans-all-fx-tradin?page=1

Belarus Forex markets bow to BitShares 24/7 free (really low fees) free market currency trading solution which (without any competition at all) should become the most liquid Belarus currency trading platform for at least the next 2 years.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he means Ron Paul, and he said that he hates to lose the word "deflation" so I think he wants to go with:

Ron Paul Deflationary Money

So that people will have more of an idea of what it is than if we named it something ambiguous like
Bitshares, bitcoin, or ethereum.

Yeah, I think he meant "Ron" Paul Money since he said "Money" instead of "Coin"

So, I'm going with typing error, because nobody in 10 pages of thread has put those 3 words together in that specific order.


I see what you are saying, you want to use "Deflationary" as a brand.

That's actually a brilliant idea.

"Ron Paul Deflationary Money"

Ron Paul Money is already 2 syllables longer than BitShares so we will never win any "short, cute, hip, and catchy" "brand name" marketing battles with BitShares.  We might not be as hip as Dogecoin, but a basic law of marketing states that if you deciding to chose the "short, hip, and catchy" brand route like "BitShares," then you will forever have to lug around the ball and chain of ambiguity.  "Dogecoin," "Bitcoin," and "BitShares are forever ambiguous to the uninitiated.  Have you ever tried explaining bitcoin to someone?  Try ethereum or BitShares, it's impossible because after you say:

Today, Billy, we will be learning about "Ethereum", Billy says "wowwwwwwwwwwwwww, it sounds like space milk!"  Then you have to say, "no, no Billy, it is sound money.  And right there, we lose little Billy, because outer space is way more exciting to dream about than money.

"BitShares" (and most short and hip brand names are meant to be exclusive because those who are in the know are hip, so it is a marketing by exclusion angle that is pompous by nature) could mean anything to the uninitiated, and we must therefore be the opposite.  Taking the opposite route by being honest, transparent, and not excluding the uninitiated, gives a sense of trust in the name alone.  In other words, we are being up front with our customers, by trying to expose as much of ourselves in the most effective manner.

Because BitShares and Dogecoin chose "hip" brand names, then they also have to take, not only the untrustworthy douchebag (I know something that you don't ha ha) baggage, but they have to take the "ambiguous" ball and chain as well.  Ambiguous is different than untrustworthy, because it means that not only does your customer not trust you initially, but he has to learn the punchline to your inside joke as well.  I know because I've lived this for the past year.

Therefore we must expose this weakness of "too hip for you ambiguity" that BitShares/Dogecoin has, and proceed with our "clear and all encompassing" brand name.

Exposing your opponent's weakness is basic common sense, and effective strategy.

When you hear "Ron Paul Deflationary Money" you know exactly what it is, and have a secure, stable, and strong reference point to lay a foundation of understanding upon from a new user point of view.  You automatically take whatever understanding of "sound money" concept they have and explain more from there.

When explaining the esoteric "BitShares" or "Ethereum" or "Bitcoin" to people, their minds first jump to Jupiter, then you have to bring them all the way back to earth in the next sentence when you try to tell them that you are simply talking about "sound money"

You must see the genius here, it is your genius at work, I'm just reaffirming your genius, because I've been struggling to get people to understand "BitShit" for over a year, and I would love the chance to explain "Ron Paul Deflationary Money" to someone, it would be millions of brain cells easier because you already have  frame of reference and understanding with the user after you lay the brand on him.

It is a unique strategy in explaining/branding (being the same thing) cryptocurrency (just like you admit that "nobody is using "money") today.  It's not only a revolutionary tech, it's a revolutionary crypto marketing angle!

Nobody in crypto had the ballz to use the word "money" as a brand for fear of gov intervention (let alone the "deflationary" brand of money)(dude, u r d shiz), but the altcoin craze started and got huge before the irs legalized bitcoin.  But every copycat coin kept right on copying the no ballz and no "money" branding strategy that Bitcoin coined and Dogecoin made famous.  

Lets preach this: Bitcoin 1.0, the catchier the name the bigger the scam.  Bitcoin 2.0 - explaining crypto technology that you can use.

When you ask someone "what is BitShares", they initially (and always, because only 1 man really knows the answer) get the question wrong initially, so when you go on to the next question, "what is money?" and they don't know that either, you say "you don't know what sound money is either, stupid?" and you are pissing them off by that point.

You will never know what BitShares is after learning only one concept.  So the customer has to overcome failure (of getting the opening question horribly wrong), and still want to learn about it.  It is hard to get them to do.  

But people will have a much better idea of what Ron Paul Deflationary Money is after only hearing it spoken, and learning one additional concept (whatever that is that helps them grasp the whole).

Your "brand name" is your syllabus or instruction manual to teaching them the coin.

You say the name, and then they ask you to clarify one of many aspects: money, crypto, deflationary (whatever they are stuck on at the time).  You unstick those concepts, and then they have it.

If you start out with "what is sound money?" then they will at least give you their attention for one learning lesson, then when they learn the simpler concept of money, they feel smart, then they will be encouraged to learn more, and then you teach them another simple lesson.  Baby steps, never stumbling

"Yeah, you got the sound money question correct, what's next?"

Instead of:

You: What is BitShares?

Them: "I don't know"

You:"Wrong" BitShares is sound money. What is sound money?

Them: "I dont know"

You: "Wrong".....

By that point, they are like, "who is this doosh"

I know because I am that doosh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sdVx5gQz6w

Our opponent’s weakness must become our strength, and there is no better way to expose this weakness than to name this coin exactly what it does.  BitShares suffers from lack of adoption due to it being too difficult to explain.  We must fight to make our coin clear right from the title and we will not only differentiate ourselves from BitShares, but we will differentiate ourself from all crypto including bitcoin as well.

You are a genius.

Ron Paul Deflationary Money

I take back what I said about you earlier:


"Ron Paul Deflationary Money" is pure market branding genius.

Crypto is having a marketing crisis currently, and what we will do is choose something simple like "just saying what the product does!

"Why no one's ever tried that!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwDUzSWoCjo

It's genius ala Jim Henson

They say that you must choose your battles, and this is an excellent strategic tactic in this marketing war.

So in essence we are turning the "battle of the brands" into a "teach our customers about DPOS" fight/opportunity.  And after hearing the name brand "Ron Paul Deflationary Money" you already know exactly what it does.  What more do you need to say after that.

"BitShares" went with simple and ambiguous, therefore, we would be most successful (in differentiating ourselves from BitShares) by going as far as we can go in the polar opposite direction.  You have vision, man, I salute you.

3 Cheers For :

Ron Paul Deflatinoary Money


Ron Paul Deflatinoary Money


Ron Paul Deflatinoary Money

It's like you are writing a song and are Bob f'n dylan

Marketing Move of the Millenium
Of course the dev needs to get paid, I'm just glad you came back, and I sure as hell hope that you would have some skin in this game.  I sold my RPC's immediately after the dump assuming that it was the dev dumping.  If he was not the big dumper, then I just lost all my Rand Paul Money because I waited for the dump before going back to DPOS.  How the hell do I deserve to make more money than him in his venture anyway?  Anybody who bitches here has to explain that question first or you are a penocha.  I'm the leach, he is my slave.  I don't do shit but throw shit at him, yet he is free to leave my captivity anytime.  Jesuschrist, it's not like I had my life's savings invested in RPC.  We all know what this really is, so no bitching about losses.  No crying at the poker table, this is a man's game in the fukkin wild west dig?.  Anybody could have bought this coin cheaper than it is today back in September, so get off it and take your sad ass out of here.  

Any talk of the share price will be looked upon as personal weakness.

We have a tough job ahead of us, a battle if you will, and only men are aloud (and strong women).  This is now a place of business.  This is not kiddie coin, it's more like Sparta!

Bitcoin has a Litecoin, but BitShares doesn't yet.  Ron Paul Money would make a fine compliment to BitShares, and the voting donations idea sounds superb.  There are several other coins trying to become the "LiteShares" to "BitShares,"  so we need complete and utter focus from here on out.  This is a game.  A game of death.  And the enemy is immensely stronger than we are, but we have a secret weapon of magical power.




shit, I'd take 10% focussed, just don't ditch us.  BitShares will launch a new update at longer and longer intervals.  It will only get easier.

Who says you have to "lose the word" deflationary

You can say it all you want in the interviews.

Them: What is Ron Paul Money

You: It is like Bitcoin, only deflationary, instead of inflationary, plus you can purchase derivatives with it on the client software using it as collateral.....

It's still there.  I don't get it.


Of course you had to differentiate the VOTE aspect from BitShares, this is your number 2 selling point (behind deflationary derivative trading bitcoin)


(snifff snifff)....(tear)

I love you man

You can't beat it.


You are the coder, what is "tough" for you is impossible in 3 lifetimes for me.

This thing is so over-designed for ease of forking out a bad actor if it were to be attacked that you could probably do whatever, but changing the number of delegates in mid stream does sound tricky, and has never been discussed at the BitShares forum.  They just ran some tests, and chose 101 delegates.  I'm pretty stupid on this, but my gut thinks that 13 may be too low
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You certainly sound like the man

BTSTV is running a promotion for miners who want to get paid on our new public blockchain.

Those lucky 101 who get the most votes get a paid mining position:

All you have to do is post the name of your mining account:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=11458.0

You may need to obtain more votes to reach the top, however, we do not require anything more than signing up and saying hi, to receive our full support of your paid position.

Good for you, we hate it.  What we do love is living our life in our new Bitcoin 2.0 starship.

We were riding in a bitcoinmobile, but it was so slow, and boring.  Storing coins offline, however, was a great invention by Satoshi.  Then Invictus came along and transformed the Satoshi Model-T into a Ferrari, and check out how many consecutive doughnuts we spun in a row this morning:


Allow me to conversate with you:

BTSYV: We own bitshares, and we are voting for the first 101 people who post in that thread.  
You: What do you win if you are voted in?

BTSTV: You get to be a BitShares miner at full delegate pay.

You:  How much is full delegate pay?

BTSTV: currently about $3k/month.

You: What if the price of BitShares goes back up to where it peaked last quarter?

BTSTV: Then you will be bringing in $10,000 per month.

You: Just for mining BitShares?

BTSTV: Yeah, but you probably will need to convince others to vote for you, or offer to mine for
less pay at first until everyone gets to know you.  But once they all see how cool you are, then I’m
sure that they would give you a pay raise.  Basically, you are paid in BitShares.

You: But if all 101 miners are making $10,000 per month and dumping them on the open market, then won’t that cause the price of BitShares to decrease?

BTSTV: Not anymore than with  bitcoin because the inflation rate is less than bitcoin’s even at full dilution

You: What else can I do with BitShares?

BTSTV: You can do what we just did and sell them for dollars inside the client software.  If the BitShare price rises, and you want to lock in your profits, you can sell them for dollars (and soon gold or oil or stocks).

You: So what. I can already do that on Cryptsy

BTSTV: Yeah, and also on MtGox, MintPal and those other exchanges that took people’s money.

You: Cool, what else can it do?

BTSTV: Well the next version has escorow and multisig, and a bunch of other nerdy stuff … I’m bored, lesson’s over kid, go to their forum and learn for yourself.
You: should I buy some BitShares

BTSTV:  Hell no man! I’m still accumulating, wait until early 2015 after the new wallet/marketing push happens, otherwise my orders will never get filled:
So the bottom line is this Ferrari works as advertised (Bitcoin that you can buy and sell directly on the blockchain in 10 seconds not 20 minutes, and never worry about BigVern getting hacked).
I’m just a dropout who bought into bitcoin when it hit $1000 because I was asleep.  I was definitely late to the crypto party.  But I saw the revolution for what it was.  And the future of BitShares goes beyond simple asset hedging of your bitcoins, it allows you to vote for your miners, and your government officials in a 100% perfectly accurate manner.

What is that worth to the Libertarian community?

By giving this power to the Libertarian community, we are forcing ourselves to modify the words of our theme song to: moneypowerwomendrugsliberty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2387435859&feature=iv&src_vid=oblnNd73qGo&v=iVJYS1L1snA

That’s the thing man.  we are not devs, and we have no clue who the devs of this coin are.  We only know that the devs of the coin being copied are magicians.  But for all we know, the guy doing the snapshot here could very well be the trader who dumped the 13,000 RPC and is half way to Dairy Queen by now.  We have no clue if he has the brains or balls necessary to carry out this awesome idea.  We're gambling on the fact that this idea is so good (BitShares sharedrop to Ron Paul Coin/Bitcoin/Dogecoin), that if he does not do it then some other crypto nerd will.  And whoever pulls it off will be a hero.  We don't know or care who that is, we are just the film crew here.  The devs and community organizers are the stars of this show.  So buy a ticket, or sit silently and watch, but its starting to get real.  Last month there were zero BitShares clones, now there are several.  Why?  One word:

Litecoin

We took the hit on the RPC share price and now we can only hope that our dev incorporates the incredible features of BitShares into your pro-Libertarian format.
  
We don’t care about the share price, we just want to watch the next episode on BTSTV:

Deep voice: “A new Ron Paul Coin is born.  A coin that is far more powerful than Bitcoin itself.  A coin that will turn the world upside down and be responsible for electing the first Third Party American President since the Taylor administration almost 200 yrs ago.”

Not that your current Ron Paul Coin is not capable of positive change.  It’s just that once you see what this upgrade is capable of, then we don’t think that you will be driving around your old RPC very often.  Your upgraded RPC can not only perform all the functions of your current RPC, but it can utilize the power of Satoshi’s blockchain invention to orchestrate a 100% incorruptible vote:

Don’t you wonder what the real tally of yesterday’s vote was?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-30/swiss-gold-referendum-fails-78-vote-against-protecting-countrys-wealth

Or what was the real score of this old vote?


Imagine if the Florida voting apparatus was as efficient and secure as Bitcoin.

And of course, imagine how many votes did this guy actually get when he ran for president:


So you see;  your new and improved (infused with BitShares Vote) Ron Paul Coin (Ron Paul Money/Rand Paul Coin) now has much more capability than your old Ron Paul Coin.  It also has more features than Bitcoin and the clones.

Can you vote on who you want to mine your coins if you own Bitcoins or Ron Paul Coins?  Do you know how many different people are successfully mining your coin? Do you think that Bitcoin owners would vote for only 2 or 4 centralized miners?

Well, by owning Bitcoin, and not Rand Paul Coin, they basically are.

Do you know what it means to "vote with your dollar"?

If you buy your girlfriend Avon makeup, then you directly caused this:



If you buy your girlfriend makeup that has this symbol on it:



Then you are not a bunny blinder.

That is basic economics.

The advanced economics lesson is this:

If you buy bitcoins, then you are supporting this dude's quest to warm the planet:



Where, if you had bought Ron Paul Money (Rand Paul Coin), then you support miners who have similar interests to you.  They might be environmentalists, political activists, scientists, marketers, poacher poachers, whatever.  The bottom line is that you determine who lives and dies because you are already filthy rich on the global environmental scale.

Who will the Ron Paul community kill.  Whom will they support.  We can't wait to find out in the next episode of Bitcoin 2.0.  We already know the ending of the prior episode (Bitcoin 1.0) = The bitcoin owners supported 4 miners who completely centralized the mining which spawned Ripple (the completely centralized version of Ron Paul Money (Rand Paul Coin) with less features).

In the next episode, we picture the Ron Paul Coin community voting for at least 3 miners because historically, you have displayed an active appreciation of tri-decentralized power  in American Politics).  Ron Paul Money (Rand Paul Coin) allows its owners to vote on who gets to mine new Ron Paul Money (Rands).  And that is just the tip.  

Do you think that the Ron Paul community would support blockchain based voting for Political offices such as the POTUS?

We do too, so we sure hope that our dev does his deed.  But if he doesn’t, we won’t sweat it because we have seen how the Ron Paul Coin community handles abandonment (that required Ron Paul Wallet 2.0 to save the day).  Your refusal to take it up d’ass quietly is exactly why we bought into your community (figuratively speaking, not another Borat reference).  

The Ron Paul Coin community persists under adversity, and if our new dev deviates from his self-proclaimed “soul purpose in life,” then so be it.  We know that the Ron Paul community will persist, and continue striving to survive.  You guys kept a weak little bitcoin baby clone alive in Zombieland!  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=588413.0

Meaning: You guys kept your wallet alive and functioning while ZombieCoin, GoldCoin, DodoCoin, KarpelesCoin, Scamcoin, SiliconValleyCoin, Supercoin, SlothCoin, Teslacoin, Vampirecoin, UFOcoin, WikiCoin, Alphacoin, PatriotCoin, and even American Coin succumbed to the mind numbing mainstream Bitcoin community.  

Why would anybody attempt to preserve their wealth in BBQ coin or other Junkcoins?  They are just bitcoin clones with only a couple successful miners.

Why would anybody attempt to preserve their wealth in Feathercoin, Maxcoin, Dogecoin or Ron Paul Coin?  They are just simple bitcoin clones too.  The answer is because those communities still have people that are there for a purpose other than to simply speculate and try to get rich quick.  These communities are not full of mainstream people.  They represent a specific unified group of people who share the same values.  You want a coin backed by gold?  You got it.  
You want a coin backed by silver?  

Done.

What else do you want?

Here is a recent quote from the Rand man himself: “I was looking more at it until that recent thing. And actually my theory, if I were setting it up, I’d make it exchangeable for stock. And then it’d have real value. And I’d have it pegged, and I’d have a basket of 10 big retailers. Because I read [Marc] Andreessen’s article a couple months ago. What fascinated me about it was those 2 to 3% margins. If you multiply that out for all of Wal-Mart (WMT) and they don’t have to use Visa anymore, I’m guessing the people who have to be worried here are Visa (V) and Mastercard (MA). I think it would work, but I think, because I’m sort of a believer in currency having value, if you’re going to create a currency, have it backed up,”.

Done Rand man, now what are you going to do next?  BTSTV viewers are anxiously awaiting that answer?!

The genie is out of the bottle and granting wishes for those who ask.

So you might as well dream big.  Here is what one of the pages in your new wallet looks like when you trade Ron Paul Assets (like Gold or stocks) within the client itself! (you don't have to go to MtGox or Poloniex or MintPal to trust them with your crypto trades ever again)

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbitshares.org%2FMarketScreenShot.png&t=546&c=Mow2Tx5VGzIMYg

So now you guys are cooking with Bitcoin 2.0 technilogy, and the world will never look the same because you can now see the big picture:

Bitcoin is for the average Joe (majority)

Ripple is for the “Type A”  personalities who were using bitcoin so much that they started Bitcoin 2.0 with a completely centralized blockchain.  They simply looked at the bitcoin mining centralization trend and extrapolated it to its logical conclusion: BigBrotherCoin.

NXT is for the Trekkies who are smarter than the average Bitcoiner because they got an “A” on their Bitcoin 2.0 test and are not cool supporting BigBrotherCoin

BitShare savants are already working on Bitcoin 3.0, but never really cared to tell anyone last year when they started their Bitcoin 2.0 project.  They care not for marketing because they are autistic geniuses who can name every star in the universe in the order in which it was formed, but can’t remember to zip up after hitting the can.  These guys are planning on solving the “free energy” problem after they complete the BitShares project (SchlonGoin or something, the name escapes me).

Dogecoins are for the hippies and hipsters in the Occupy Wall St photo I posted earlier.

Counterparty is for the martyr extremists whom obviously can’t be present when the time comes for the Libertarian fight for freedom.


 
Ron Paul Coins are for the “Occupy Washington crowd (we will not be distracted by bread and circuses, and above all we know where to hold our protest)”

Frankly, we like filming your crowd the best, because the BitShares guys are shy, and afraid of openly supporting a third party politician.  You see, their ultimate goal is to be BitCoin 2.0 (average Joe’s Bitcoin 2.0 solution).  

Now there are 2 ways to attempt to get the Average Joe using BitShares.

Method 1. Teach them – This is what the Bitcoin community has chosen to try to do

Method 2. Give them (Bitcoin and Dogecoin kids) BitShares – This is what you just did (or what our Ron Paul $ dev says he is going to try to do).  

The Ron Paul Coin community is actually well positioned to utilize the immense power of Bitcoin 2.0 disruptively.  Bitcoin Average Joes could care less about creating social change, or at least the radical type of change that Ron Paul envisions (Libertarian President? waaaat???).  But if the Bitcoin Average Joes cared more, and got behind BitShares (in the form of Ron Paul $), then your community would now be in control of the most powerful crypto death ray in the world!  Because the Average Joes are powerful when united, and super cool when united under Libertarianism.  
BitCoin 1.0 disrupted Western Union and money transmitters.

Ron Paul Money is going to disrupt the entire primitive trading and security paradigm, and it has the potential to disrupt our political system even more.  And what better communities’ hands to place this new-fangled death ray gizmo into than yours.

No, BTSTV is not a dev.  We’re not even in tech support here.  We’re in sales.  We are the ones who are going to show you how to operate this nuclear device.  We did not create the operations manual.  We just had to memorize it so that now we can teach you how to use it, and what you can use it for.  We are going to film you turning it on and taking it for the first spin.  The footage is going to be epic.  We just want some hits:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMhdksPFhCM

You just purchased our rocket ship, and we are just showing you the features like hot and cold showers, 17 subwoofer surround sound (BitShares Music), auto-lock security (cold wallets), identity cloaking (TITAN), hyper-drive, etc (10 sec block times).

We heard that Bitcoin was going to inspire a revolution.  And history has proven that revolutions only occur when people demand liberty.  So we came here to the land of the Libertarians with cameras rolling and waiting for it.  Well it seems that contrary to popular belief, the revolution will indeed be televised, here at the Ron Paul Community on BTSTV.

“Aynnnnnnnnd ACTION!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEfK-3Lwph0
and the beat goes on

peace bro, and teaching, and learning, and freedom too while we're at it.  Why not?

Great, we need more people like you around here with the brains and vision to decipher this scam of Matrix proportions right in front of the face of the people:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-07/great-scam-americas-richest-politicians-get-richer-democrat-republican-wealth-conver

"America now has only one (political) party."

That is the main reason for the need to create Rand Paul Coin /( Ron Paul Money?)

Because what the people want (or politically say they want) is imprisonment:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-09/30-americans-support-property-seizure

Rand Paul Coin (or Ron Paul Money) is not for the (average) people.  It is for the Libertarians.  If our mission is a success, then what the average people will grow to want is liberty over civil forfeiture.


Yes, it happens every single time that there is a "snapshot" and has been discussed ad nauseum over in the bitshares forum.  Feel free to come over and poke around.  Be our guest:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=11584.msg152850#msg152850

The whole existence of the "snapshot" is a primary reason why BitShares quit doing all snapshots, and adopted the snapshotless BitShares business model.  The obvious volatility caused by the traders during new snapshots was scaring away serious investors.    

So good riddance to the horrible "snapshot" paradigm, and be glad that Rand Paul Coin has adopted the new "shapshotless BitShares business model."

In fact, it is because of this new innovation of the snapshotless Bitshares, that everyone started cloning it.  

Fact: before the snapshotless BitShares there were zero clones, and one month after the new snapshot-free BitShares there are already 4 clones that we can name off the top of our head, so the Rand Paul dev just happened to recognise that the time to start cloning bitshares has arrived.

Why is the Ron Paul community cloning BitShares?

Why doesn't the BitShares community clone Ron Paul coin?

These are the simple questions we ask prior to investing in crypto coins.  We tend to buy the coins that are actively being cloned, it's just that we happen to like Libertarianism, so we bought into this community in hopes that they are empowered by the power of Bitcoin 2.0

Why does the Rand Paul dev just want to put the snapshot behind him?

Because he has what he considers more important things to do rather than answer questions concerning the psychology of those who tade rather than invest, or any other discussion of share price that is occupying his brain when he should be

CODING OUR RAND PAUL WALLET!

We could discuss trading vs. investing for months, and launch the new Rand Paul wallet in 2017, or we could let our dev focus on getting our wallet out next week so we can resume trading our Rand Paul Coins

BUT AT TWICE THE VALUE OF WHAT THOSE SUCKERS WHO DUMPED SOLD FOR

THOSE SUCKERS LEFT MONEY ON THE TABLE!

but only if you leave our dev alone so he can fulfill his life's mission which as he tersely put it (and is located somewhere in this thread that is already way too long for me to be able to find it this year) has absolutely nothing to do with 900 page share price discussions that 99% of all other typical communities indulge in, but remain the number 1 reason why we live at the BitShares forum:

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/price-speculation/

Or maybe the dev took our money and is getting his girlfriend's mustache waxed, who knows.

However, all coins now have to go through at least one initial "snapshot" so take a deep breath, and be glad that it is forever over with.  Now Ron Paul Money (or Ron Paul Coin) will be able to add all future additions to the ecosystem to its bitasset chain, and not have to ever reinvent itself through primitive "snapshotting"

Yeah, everyone hates them except for the traders (obviously).  They don't have to download the wallet, wait for it to sync, add nodes, wait for confirm times, etc.  All they have to do is remember to dump them sometime before the snapshot date, hopefully at a higher price.  Why must they dump them before the snapshot date?  Because the equity gets transferred to the new coin.  From the moment the snapshot passes, the new coin's equity is illiquid, and waiting for the new wallet to be born so that it can again be traded.

Investors want to go through the the other side, traders do not.  We did not trade any Ron Paul Coins.  My libertarian hopes and dreams lie currently in crypto purgatory awaiting the dev to shit or get off the pot.  My equity and trust lies in his hands alone.  Historically, we've put such faith in Dan, and we slept good at night.


Certainly, if the Ron Paul community is capable of laughing at themselves.

No if nobody around here has a sense of humor.  And if that is the case, we will remove the kitten photo at the first request, and take my good humor elsewhere.

We would invite you to take a look at the success of dogecoin before you decide to take the "no fun allowed" stance, unless you are a competitor trying to place RandPaulCoin at a disadvantage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdiFV-AFbBA
(2 minutes from the end)

"Fun" is a mathematically required element for crypto community success (take dogecoin for instance).  Jokes and laughing are all part of that "fun" aspect.

Since we are only involved in successful projects, then you can expect more fun and jokes and laughing out of BTSTV from here to eternity.


It's been said many, that "we (BTSTV) don't know the square root of shit"

No lies here, humiliating, maybe, so what else would you like to know?

You laugh at us, we laugh at you, is that not what best friends do.

Sorry, we're new here, and did not realize the mental scars that you guys bear.  Nothing bad ever happens in crypto:




Yet, one of our proudest moments as a Libertarian American came when we were disrespected by Don Rickles.  How many communists can say the same?




We've been telling those guys to put that exact quote on a T-Shirt forever.  The political spokesman for BitShares is a little different from that of Ron Paul Coin, so we can see why there may be some differences here, it's just that we are a little more silent at bitshares for more obvious reasons:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=3770.0

We know that our Days are numbered, so we live each one to their funnest fullest.  We are just not used to the posh protections of Capital hill, so forgive my brethren if we come off at first as a little unrefined and gorilla-like, it's just that we are obviously more guerilla-like than most crypto-communities for a reason.  We have hard emotional shells due to the constant repression and literal head-hunters we face.

That is why we invented the worlds first figurative headhunter coin (we are a product of our environment, and our environment is not filled with fine meals and nice suits):


Now we're sorry to disappoint all you POW miners who think that the gold rush can last forever, but consolidation of the mining industry has ended the prior chapter in Bitcoin 1.0

Did the California gold rush continue indefinitely?  No, it experienced diminishing returns.  The days of mininig hundreds of bitcoins on your PC are over, and we're already over it.  The next generation of PC mining will be performed by those who can also add value to the system that they are mining for.  

Rand Paul Coin miners will need to show the Ron Paul Coin holders that they are working hard for their coins that they are mining.  The low hanging fruit of the crypto gold rush has been plucked, now it gets tougher.  This is the second level.  Miners need to work harder to thrive since the competition has just become more intense.  Thank you for tuning into BTSTV, stay tuned for more tips on how to thrive in the Bitcoin environment in 2015.

We know that the Ron Paul community has done wonders for freedom, but what has "Ron Paul Coin" done for us lately.  We're not simply trying to occupy Wall St over at BitShares:





Personally, we're sorry, if we offended anyone.  we was joking (bad habit), we will take the cute kitten photo down if you want.  If this coin is a failure, you can point to this thread and the joke will be on me because we are now a huge RandPaulCoin "bagholder."  I just prefer to not complain about math concepts like "gravity," relativity," or "snapshotting"

Because, you see man, after 3 or 4 of these "snapshots" now, they get rather predictable to the general trading public.  Don't ignore history: BitShares snapshot

1. Public announcement of snapshot date.

2. Investors purchase shares and download the wallet, and send them to the wallet.

3. Traders purchase shares knowing that they must dump prior to snapshot.

4. Those who hold through the snapshot know for a fact that the price will drop just prior to the snapshot time due to traders

And for the record, we love Ron Paul as a politician despite his poor sense of humor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOEJGKusJb8

And actually, we have something in common, we hate those vulgar assholes over at BitShares, why do you think that we am joining the Rand Paul Team (whom is BitShares's most feared competitor currenlty) (BitShares fork = Bizarro Superman = basically a competitive enemy that the worlds strongest man is mathematically incapable of defeating).  

If you want, we will channel this current thread vibe into a vessel of vile hatred that we will spew at the evil BitShares community.  They will learn not to mess with the Pauls!  We have been player hating those greedy rich BitShare bastards for months now, openly, and publicallly:  


Here is how we treat random big shots in the current field of crypto who come to help the BitShares community (we make them run away!):


So your current marketing is spot on with your negative T-Shirt campaign against the BitShares community, however, we would go just a bit further:

BitShares T - Fuck those fucking fuckers

Maybe then, we could get some real publicity around here, eh mate?



Tell ya what, when the first bitBeer asset is invented next year, we will buy you one.

So you see, everything is going according to plan.  Take a step back, look around you, breathe a sigh of relief.. If you are watching BTSTV, then you are watching the future in 20/20.

Now whomever expected to sell their Ron Paul Coins at pre-snapshot levels after the snapshot time should erase their old posts now that this basic crypto 101 math lesson is complete if understood.  Please do this so that we can make some room around here for the superhero devs whom we plan to welcome here as they begin arriving here at our Hall of Justice (this thread) hopefully soon.

Thank you.

Also, to any of you who posted "scam" posts please remove those too, because if it is a scam, then it is on us, and we are already cool with it, so please just humor us.

If, however, this is not a scam, then here is your future:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2387435859&feature=iv&src_vid=oblnNd73qGo&v=iVJYS1L1snA  

yes, I know it's a pita but it's accurate

When the Rand (or Ron) Paul Money wallet comes out:

1. download and execute (install) the file
2. enter the private key of your Ron Paul wallet to obtain your Rand/Ron Paul Money
3. choose what Ron/Rand Paul Asset you want to buy with your Ron/Rand Paul Money, and trade for it within the wallet (you don't ever need to send your coins to an exchange to trade them for assets)

You can practice with BitShares currently:

http://bitshares.org/downloads/

I agree, RonPaulSilver is more confidence inspiring than simply PaulSilver.

So Ron Paul Money with Rand Paul Coin as a Ron Paul Asset is a bit of a mouthful but extremely effective in demonstrating the hierarchy or organizational structure of the Ron Paul Money complete crypto ecosystem.

Since we are very early in the adoption stage of this concept, I think we need "encompassing" and "powerful" and "ground-breaking" and "timeless" over "simple" or "elegant"  or "enigmatic" or "ethereal"

DPOS is POW

If you think of "delegates" as "miners"

Running a delegate is the same as running a mining rig, except that you have to be awesome to get the privilege of being voted into a mining position.

You have to "prove" to us that you can do good "work" for us (coin owners).

Also, this coin was born of a fair launch (fair distribution) POW coin (Protoshares)

Ron Paul Gold and Ron Paul Silver backed by Ron Paul Money is a fantastic economics and crypto lesson for the uninitiated that makes you learn!"

Where "Rand Paul Coin" does not really tell you what you can do with the power of DPOS that you are unlocking.  Using DPOS as a simple alt-coin (bitcoin copy) is very limited and overdone.  And when someone asks you what are Rand Paul Assets, then they don't have quite the same emotional impact as:

BitGold, BitSilver (backed by BitShares), or Ron Paul Gold or Ron Paul Silver (backed by Ron Paul Money).  If you want to compete with the big dogs: Bitcoin, BitShares, Ripple, etc, you need a big concept.  Rand Paul Coin or Ron Paul Money?

Rand Paul Coin sounds like just another altcoin to compete with bitcoin, litecoin, peercoin, etc.

Ron Paul Money sounds like the revolutionary new Bitcoin 2.0 concept that this DPOS coin is capable of:  smart contracts, interest bearing bitassets backed by Ron Paul Money, milti-signature security, escrow options, etc.

I'm loving this Ron Paul Money idea, and like the guy said, you can issue Rand Paul Coin as a BitAsset EXCLUSIVELY on Ron Paul Money blockchain.

THAT IS A FEATURE THAT BITSHARES WOULD NOT HAVE, and an exclusive reason to purchase Ron Paul Money over BitShares (because you want to support Rand Paul's presidential bid).  The media will have to look at and explain "Ron Paul Money" whenever mentioning "Rand Paul Coin."  This double coverage will cement the "Ron Paul Money" brand

You would not look like a copy cat coin at all because you can always say that Rand Paul Coin was your number one plan, but you wanted to do it on a deflationary DPOS (that was a better real sound money model than fiat, bitcoin, and even bitshares) that would have made father Ron Paul proud!

These are all economic concepts, that when people understand, will say "gee I think I understand money a little better, or I get the crypto concept a little better."  AND THEN THEY WILL BUY THE COIN THAT TAUGHT THEM THAT LESSON!

You now have a unique altcoin on a unique DPOS (that is showcasing and TEACHING the world about the power of this new bitcoin 2.0!!!)

This is a great teaching mechanism that bitcoiners can relate to, and that Ron Paul supporters can understand, and that Dan Larimer knows is a fantastic angle:

 
Yeah, I think that making Ron Paul Money the central collateral asset (you will need a good general name to compete with the "BitShare"),  Call them "Pauls" that you will use as collateral to buy or issue Rand Paul Coins, Ron Paul Gold, or Ron Paul Silver.

You need a good one syllable prefix to compete with "bit"

as in bitshares, bitgold, bitusd, etc.

so RonPaulGold, RonPaulUSD, RonPaulAssets

So you take it to the next level with RonPaulAssets backed by Ron Paul Money as you compete with BitAssets backed by bitshares.

You might have a better teaching angle because your RonPaulAssets are backed by a "money" and not a "bitSomething" which people are having a difficult time intuitively understanding that bitshares are the value that acts as collateral.  You would be more effective teaching newbies that "money" backs your RonPaulAssets rather than "BitShares" backing the assets:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=11569.0

See, people still don't get bitshares because it is "backed by bits" (and not something that grandma can comprehend as "value" like "money" or "gold")

Now if your RonPaulAssets are backed by "money"  (Ron Paul Money), then they just might understand it, and buy into the future of money.

Using "money" as the article that "backs" your bitassets is an absolute must if you want anybody to understand this rocket science.

BitShares took the "we are the best crypto comming from a BitCoin familiarity" standpoint.

You must come from the best other logical direction:

"we are the best crypto coming from a "money familiarity" standpoint.

Otherwise you will confuse people and look like you are either copying bitcoin or bitshares.

In Crypto, what major "brands are taken"

"bit" - is played out - bitcoin, bitshares, bitassets, bitusd - that one was picked first

"coin" - Bitcoin, litecoin, thiscoin, thatcoin, shit that is why Rand Paul Coin needs to be relegated to the "bitasset" category and can't be your main theme

"shares" is now taken, bitshares took that name, and it is a good one because it explains a concept to people.

We need a word that explains a concept to people, and I suggest we use the word "money"

No coin has had the ballz thus far to be "moneycoin" or "bitmoney"

Here is our chance to use a first round draft pick in the great crypto draft (you got an early pick, so you might as well take the best word)

MONEY

What kind of money?

BitMoney..maybe (encompasses bitcoin concepts)
Ron Paul Money loving it (encompasses austrian economics and libertarian politics)

everything else is less encompassing

cyber money
cloud money
libertarian money

I think that if you try this you will see that all roads lead to Ron Paul Money.

This coin is POW

Only thing different is that the "miner" is called a "delegate" because they compete to be the best and the coin holders vote on who they want to be the best miners.

This whole community was founded on POW, and miners will continue to get paid

Ron Paul coin was founded as a POW coin.

BitShares was founded as a POW coin (Protoshares)

Bitcoin, well you should get it by now..

See...That is the exact reason why you need to call this "money"

because nobody gets it yet..

but when they do........

The general idea behind Rand Paul Coin is that Rand Paul will have to support the owners of the coin, not the other way around.

The coin is not designed simply to support Rand Paul.  The coin is designed to be a window into the soul of his constituents whom Rand has pledged to support as a public servant.

You are thinking of the tail wagging the dog, and we want to go back to where the dog wags its own tail.

People control their leaders, not the other way around.  This is the basic concept behind crypto as a tool for the people.  This is not a revolutionary concept, but an old fashioned Libertarian concept implemented by our founding fathers.

If you were going to rename the coin, I would go with George Washington coin.

Is there any Senator in the history of the world that has ever had his own coin? (is that not publicity?)  What if Rand becomes President?  Are there any presidents who have their own cryptocurrency?  Barak Obama had the support of the internet 1.0, but Rand will have the support of the internet 2.0!  But only if he supports our views on his voting patterns in the Senate.

Offer Rand the power derived from Satoshi, and see if he responds.  Give him a chance.  

Rand will have to change his views to match ours, because we, the people, own the coin, and Rand must now listen to us if he wants to have the power and support of the new generation!

The best part about BitShares is going to be the voting, not the asset trading.

If the coin consensus turns against him, then the people will vote him out of office.

First crypto disintermediated Western Union (Bitcoin), then WallSt (BitShares), now it's disintermediating democracies (Rand Paul Coin).

The financial applications have been done, Rand Paul coin is simply a new cryptographic method of communication between a politician and his constituents.

Let the tool (cryptography) work for the people.

If Rand Paul coin does not follow the wishes of his constituents (like saving tax dollars by releasing non-pharmaceutical drug users from prison), then Rand receives no financial support from his coin community.  To the extent that the coin could change its name.

Wouldn’t it be a great experiment and media story to see if the dog could really wag its tail once again?

Let the coin dictate the political story, not the other way around.

The general public communicates to their political representative through the cryptographic (a perfectly incorruptible political poll) tool and the politician supports the consensus of his constituents or he is ejected from office.

- USA Freedom politics in the 21st century and beyond.

- Using cryptography to honor the ideas of our founding fathers.

After this Coin, politicians once again will serve the people.

This coin is based on the Supporters of the Libertarian views of his father Ron, and if Rand wants the support of the Ron Paul supporters, then he will have to align his views with those of his father.

This coin will allow the people to take back control over their politicians, and it is the best decentralized application of bitcoin since Satoshi helped the people take back control over their human capital as it is efficiently stored as financial capital.

Greetings from the BitShares community.

We salute you friends.

We have anxiously been awaiting the arrival of the first BitShares clone, and we want to support you every step of the way.  The more success you have, the more success we will have as well.

Distributing the shares to the hardcore Ron Paul supporters is a great way to promote democratic (DPOS voting based) concurrencies to the active Libertarian community.

You will no doubt achieve synergistic benefits in this regard.

You will be teaching crypto to activists, and political activism to crypto buffs.   

The best part about DPOS is that coin owners get to vote on who runs their blockchain, and the miners/delegates who are democratically elected to run your blockchain have to compete for the privilege of being a miner/delegate by offering services, like:

1. getting your coin on an exchange
2. providing specialized apps
3. burning a certain percentage of transactions to increase the deflationary effect
4. dev functions/marketing etc.

You are basically offering 13 good paying jobs in a high-tech field, that cost the tax payers nothing.  What politician (Rand included) would not be proud of that fact. 

As long as you allow the structure of the voting which is going to be launched soon, then Rand Raul Coin will be the first ever deflationary cryptocurrency democratically controlled by its shareholders.

And best of all, it comes at a time when the BitShares community is at an actual fork in the road:

To dilute or not to dilute the total amount of shares has just cost the BitShares community $20 million in market cap because the pro-deflationary DPOS crowd just sold their shares and went looking for Rand Paul Coin.  They were just talking about forking Bitshares and running a deflationary model like you are doing, however, they did not think to lower the total amount of delegates allowed to keep them profitable.  it seems that you have an accurate grasp of this concept. 

In other words, there is a demand for a deflationary DPOS that you no doubt have realized.  I'm just rather proud of the pro-Libertarian method of distribution you chose to take.

This will no doubt get people like Max Keiser interested because he follows Protoshares, MaxCoin, among others.

Obviously BTER would be your first target for exchange adoption.


If you are truly prepared to proceed with this adventure, then you will indeed be greeted with success.

The first fork of BitShares DPOS was inevitable, congratulations on recognising the political power of this application.

I'll help answering any general questions about DPOS.  I'm not a dev, but I'm well informed.  I will post some informational links for your community.

Best of luck.