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1741  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: January 02, 2017, 10:03:19 AM
today EPL matches fixtures

Middlesbrough vs Leicester
Everton vs Southampton
Man City vs Burnley
Sunderland vs Liverpool
West Brom vs Hull
West Ham vs Man Utd


Manchester City and Liverpool will met weak teams i think this is good chance to them to increase their points at standings league to pursuing Chelsea and i think i will avoid the other one and only pick Liverpool and Manchester City ML into my parlay
1742  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many long term holders are there and how many btc do they own? on: January 02, 2017, 09:47:39 AM
i never did some research to find bitcoin bag holders but i just look into those list above me that i think even those data pretty accurate but don't mean one person had one address because could be every person have several address with huge amount of bitcoin and i guess only less than 10% of total bitcoiners has save their bitcoin for long term situations
1743  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How high would Bitcoin price have to be for you to live off Bitcoin? on: January 02, 2017, 05:44:37 AM
as a human maybe high price will not satisfied us because it is has become human nature but if i could using at least 0.1 btc to feed all of my family and buying all my daily need in a month i think that will be enough for me or 1 btc per $200k might be good
1744  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Why does Chinese exchange only offer BTC and LTC? on: January 02, 2017, 05:29:46 AM
actually china have several big altcoins exchange such as bter.com but indeed another altcoins have less popular rather than bitcoin or litecoin but i was wondering sometimes why bitcoin price on china exchange very different if we compare from other exchange
1745  Economy / Speculation / Re: Once we hit $1000, how far will BTC drop? on: January 02, 2017, 05:12:26 AM
As I see on YoBit now the price for bitcoin is 978$ Oh my God! So high! Will it be true that bitcoin will hit the point of 1000$ by the New Year already?!
Do everybody wish it to happen?
How could that be? Usually when it is listed on there it is $20-23 higher than what it is showing on the "real" exchanges.
I just went there to see what they had it at and it was actually listing there as a buy for $20 less. Undecided
because yobit altcoins exchange then volume support for BTC-USD is very low and will not influence to the general price and even while other exchange already through $1000 but bitcoin price on this exchange has been down and currently they only have 12 bitcoin volume support and for bitcoin market these volume was very low
1746  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Monero 2017 !!! on: January 01, 2017, 09:43:22 AM
nice dreaming mate and i'm pretty sure you're big fans of Monero because you were too obsessing Monero will be the primary of digital currency and hoping could beat bitcoin someday however i don't trust every single words from you because i still believe that bitcoin as the biggest digital currency in the world wouldn't defeated by altcoins
1747  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin is Legal in India, What about your country? Check here. on: January 01, 2017, 09:26:42 AM
I hope India is very big country but majority of the people are not using bitcoin may be. I hope when researched only few companies are exchanging bitcoins into fiat currency, whether they get permission from the government don't know. But what i hear from our Indian friend is every transaction is being made with bank transactions only.

Legal means at least Indian banks should advertise and make people to buy bitcoin publicly. Those research really good but government is not completely din't gave permissions may be.
i'm not indian people and in my country the government doesn't admit bitcoin as the currency and with the legality of bitcoin in india the government should be more concern for bitcoin development in that country because many people around the world has helped with bitcoin because they could able to earn money using their bitcoin and i think if the government more concern about bitcoin then indirectly will decreasing the unemployed people in india because currently i saw there are a lot of bitcoiners derived from india who able to earn money using their bitcoin
1748  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about bonuses on btc casino ? on: January 01, 2017, 06:53:39 AM
Most of the gambling websites put up bonuses to attract new players and it is not surprising to see that and i am not sure i have seen many bonuses for old players and that too in established sites as they would concentrate on new users most of the time and that is how gambling business works.I would be cool if everyone gets a bonus as it is a win win situation.
yes it's true that usually for the deposit bonus besides rollover requirements to withdraw the balance also will have hidden term and basically will be so difficult to get advantages from the bonus deposit but maybe some of new players will not realize these term and they will deposit into the particular sites because too tempted with huge bonus which is casinos offering
1749  Other / Archival / Re: New forum for bitcoiners, Join here on: January 01, 2017, 06:39:47 AM
Totally it will not survive since many people would surely stay at bitcointalk rather than speding their precious times on unknown furom with no great interaction nor information that they doesn't found on bitcointalk, but if he have great ideas to run it well its truly better to do some massive hardworks since bitcointalk is a giant competitors on those newly build furom,
if they trying to build new forum related bitcoin very similar such as bitcointalk yes indeed those forum will became dead forum because the members more likely to choose bitcointalk as the biggest bitcoin forum because i have been register on several forum related bitcoin some times ago but currently they had disappear because no active members at there and i think if there is someone want to build new forum he must find something else unique because if those forum too usual then i'm pretty sure soon or late the forums will shutting down
1750  Economy / Economics / Re: Recap at 2016, have you reached your financial goals? on: January 01, 2017, 06:25:02 AM
on january 2016 i was telling to myself that untill end of 2016 i must have at least 1 bitcoin idle into my wallet and last recap on december last month i saw into my wallet that i have reaching my goal because currently i have more than 1 btc to hold so i think i got succeeded reach my target on 2016
1751  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about bonuses on btc casino ? on: December 31, 2016, 09:25:45 AM
i only care for non deposit bonus because to test how much luck i do have when gambling with those bonus and besides that i never claim first deposit bonus or similar just like that because i don't like for rollover requirements always be too high and almost impossible to me to finishing rollover requirements without losing my money
1752  Economy / Speculation / Re: [POLL] Dow 20,000 vs Bitcoin $1,000 on: December 31, 2016, 09:12:21 AM
i was never watching or pay attention for Dow Jones and i'm not interested anything else besides bitcoin and even both are pretty near to hit the target price but my vote is bitcoin will be first to reach $1000
1753  Economy / Economics / Re: How to deal with the "bitcoin has no physical existence" argument? on: December 31, 2016, 06:55:14 AM
this is very difficult to telling the truth to the person who always believed that every currency must have physical existence because bitcoin as digital currency was made without physical existence but valuable such as fiat however maybe if my friends ask about this someday then i would telling to them that you're no need to big pocket to save a lot of bitcoin and to save bitcoin too you're no need personal ID because one of the advantages of bitcoin is anonymity
1754  Economy / Economics / Re: Jim Rickards: Is now the right time to invest in gold? on: December 31, 2016, 06:30:38 AM
gold already exist long time ago before bitcoin was created but indeed for some people prefer investing their money by buying gold because gold as traditional comodity was established since hundreds of years ago but since bitcoin more popular gold has been found the rival because currently people start to thinking of investing bitcoin instead gold however i would following the trend that to investing my money to bitcoin even Jim Rickards say that this is the right time to invest gold
1755  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Fails to Break $1000 in 2016 on: December 31, 2016, 06:10:31 AM
looks like it does because the rally has been stop but still any chance to next year so i wouldn't losing my hope for bitcoin and my predictions in the beginning of january 2017 $1000 will be next peak
1756  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: (RE: Exchanges hack) Let's talk about a solution before instead of crying after on: December 30, 2016, 03:11:13 PM
this is difficult options because the hackers will always be aiming the exchange especially the big exchange which have huge market volume and if we want to starting trade bitcoin or altcoins putting our bitcoin to exchange is necessary to do so but i would go for my own solution that don't keep my money to the exchange too long because nothing 100% safe in crypto world
1757  Economy / Services / Re: BitDouble.io Signature/Avatar Campaign on: December 29, 2016, 03:05:41 PM
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1758  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Info Signature Campaign | Last Update : 24 Desember 2016 on: December 26, 2016, 09:24:44 AM
ada kabar baik untuk partisipant secondstrade karena pay rates kembali diturunkan  Grin Grin Grin

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efek dari kenaikan harga bitcoin
secara rate bitcoin emang turun, tapi kalau di nominalkan dengan rupiah ya biasa2 saja rate nya
Kalau rate dari secondstrade yang turun, gue udah sempat berprediksi kalau ratenya akan diturunkan, dan ternyata memang benar2 diturunkan.
kalau dirupiahkan memang sama aja sebelum diturunkan, tetapi pernah gak agan lihat pas rate bitcoin turun, pembayaranya dinaikkan? Nah, masalahnya kemarin pas harga bitcoin turun, rate nya tetap sama. Tetapi ada sisi baiknya juga dari seconsdtrade, campaign mereka mungkin yang paling lama bertahan diantara semua campaign yang ada (udah 2 tahunan).
biasanya kalo harga bitcoin turun secondstrade ga akan menaikan atau menurunkan dan apabila harga bitcoin naik maka otomatis rate akan diturunkan karena mungkin pengeluarannya akan lebih besar kalo ratenya tetap dan memang diantara semua signature campaign yang ratenya ga tetap cuma secondstrade ini tapi memang karena harga bitcoin sedang bagus saat ini maka kalo dirupiahkan ga akan signifikan turunnya
1759  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Blockchain Investment Ltd. BEWARE of ponzi scam on: December 26, 2016, 06:52:13 AM
i thought only me received those email but apparently they send to many email address to get new victim however they had very smart that using blockchain name for convincing people that this is one of the new feature of blockchain and for those who didn't conscientious they will thought this email officially from blockchain
1760  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN PRICE UP THE ROOF on: December 26, 2016, 06:35:22 AM
Rate of Bitcoins is fluctuating. Can anyone say why? Maybe but think of it.. If we received 1BTC for freelancing. While price increases... Our 779 USD payment for the freelancing is now 9xx USD. Where is our profits coming from since BTC is a currency we can use? BTCBTCBTCBTCBTC
the situations is not always good because sometimes bitcoin price could dropped more than $100 in a day however if you were received 1 bitcoin as your freelancing salary and hold it for long term i think that more good because indirectly you have good investment for the future
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