Why is it that core supporters end up having a complete tard-out?
Am I being manipulated to support alternative implementations through the fake unpleasantness of supposed Core supporters?
What if they're not wrong, they're just assholes. I've been worried about it for weeks.  Worried that you've become an asshole core supporter or just that you're simply an asshole? |
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Just few months ago core got more then 95% consensus for their soft fork. So you are factually wrong to say Bitcoin never moves ahead if 95% is required.
It is moving and improving rapidly all the time.
it doesnt matter if you had an uncontroversial soft fork that was accepted by 95%. when it comes to crucial and controversial decisions and not just minor changes you will see that 95% means factual gridlock as 5% can be easily mobilized. bitcoin will face even harder decisions than this blocksize issue at the moment, with maybe even harder controversies. and in THAT situations of controversial but neccessary decisions 95% are deadly, as you may eventually wait forever for the community to unite behind one proposal and the project falls behind because its not able to adapt to new challenges. you see, the blocksize isnt such a crucial issue at the moment imo, but if bitcoin wont be able to handle it in a timely matter its a bad sign for future hurdles to come which may be way more important. sounds like you want a bitcoin "Progressive" edition ... and like the political party of the same name inevitably fall into the inflation trap ... "for the children". lol what are you talking about its pretty easy, if you let 5% of the community block whatever decision the 95% majority has choosen your project (whatever it is) will end up fucked up. no matter if its a company, a football-club or a cryptocurrency. its called tyranny of the few. you can obv discuss if 75% is enough or not, but its ridiculous to expect a community to always go ahead with a 100% consensus. yeah because the majority are always right ... it is exactly why democracies are so fucked up, after the useful idiots become no longer useful, they are just idiots then. You invite endless politics into bitcoin like it is no big deal, what planet are you on? Technical issues are very rarely political, you are either right or wrong. Once bitcoin rules have been set in stone they will need very few controversial changes, if any. The remaining one is an algorithmic expansion of blocksize that will maintain security for the life of the project, and then we are done. Gavin was useful, now he is just behaving like a butt-hurt idiot. |
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Just few months ago core got more then 95% consensus for their soft fork. So you are factually wrong to say Bitcoin never moves ahead if 95% is required.
It is moving and improving rapidly all the time.
it doesnt matter if you had an uncontroversial soft fork that was accepted by 95%. when it comes to crucial and controversial decisions and not just minor changes you will see that 95% means factual gridlock as 5% can be easily mobilized. bitcoin will face even harder decisions than this blocksize issue at the moment, with maybe even harder controversies. and in THAT situations of controversial but neccessary decisions 95% are deadly, as you may eventually wait forever for the community to unite behind one proposal and the project falls behind because its not able to adapt to new challenges. you see, the blocksize isnt such a crucial issue at the moment imo, but if bitcoin wont be able to handle it in a timely matter its a bad sign for future hurdles to come which may be way more important. sounds like you want a bitcoin "Progressive" edition ... and like the political party of the same name inevitably fall into the inflation trap ... "for the children". |
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Gavin's big dial with the shit-eating grin on front of r/bitcoin again ... dump incoming.
edit: notice how he releases these controversial posts at critical timings for technical price breakouts ... or coincidence?
What has he controversially posted? I don't read r/bitcoin and I can't face wading through page after page to find his post. Is it another post about the block size combined with another alternate Bitcoin wallet? The last thing I heard about Gavin was he climbed down to suggesting going for 2MB blocks.  Dumpus_Maximus just posted about arbitrary numbers and binaries for "crassic" usual thing, brigade voted to the top in no time by the usual paid shills, trolls, zealots and agent provocateurs https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/... dump incoming as per expected, cheap coinz for his bankster buddies. |
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Gavin's big dial with the shit-eating grin on front of r/bitcoin again ... dump incoming.
edit: notice how he releases these controversial posts at critical timings for technical price breakouts ... or coincidence?
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I don't know about y'all, but I can sleep comfortably knowing that the value of my assets depends on the sophisticated economic and technical knowledge of third world pyramid schemers.  ... the slippery pig rider goes all in on hillybilly bucks. |
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As this block size debate clearly shows: gentlemen don't use Bitcoin.
Of course, no true gentleman would go around discussing things as crass as money in the first place. Money is crass, taking a look at the low-lifes that showed up around here as soon as bitcoin become worth more than nothing is all the evidence you need. |
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worst trolls on side of big blockers ... easy to see who's losing and attracts the agent provocateurs to keep the division raging, sadly they are welcomed into their ranks by the pretenders. Trolfi and notlambchop now honorary members of fraud cypherdoc's goon squad.
Who are they enlisting next to the Free Shit Army ... the Buttcoiner Brigade?
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I say on the 5th of November 2016 everyone cancels any sell orders they have and place buy orders.
lets call it Global Pump Day
good idea, like a coordinated hard-fork date ... we could probably to a coordinated Global Soft Pump on July 4th as a warm-up to check synchronicity |
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 do you want it? |
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Think people would have learned by now ... every time you see Gavin's smiling face on reddit r/bitcoin front page the price tanks precipitously.  ... and down we go. |
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ok looks the trolls, tryhards and simply bored chattering classes are sufficiently stirred up again ... bye.
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everyone can see as clear as day there is some power struggle with bitcoin dev. and the solution to block limit is hard to see.
i'm not / no one is denying that
the speculations that bitcoin is about to fork as a result, and the dire consequences that ensue, are largely exaggerated.
so what, the big picture looks gr8, segwit is a huge improvement, MUCH better solution then simply upping the limit.
and to me the fact that "the community has been tearing itself to pieces like a mental patient on bath salts." is just fucking bullish...
yep, and I know who my money is on in this game ... it will be the cypherpunks and cryptogeeks who built this thing and truly understand its subtle nuances and well-balanced incentive structures rather the CoinBase brian armstrong's R3 Hearn's and sundry govt toady boot-licker johnny-come-latelys who want a new PayPal for Big Bruh data-harvesting and black-listing. the cypherpunks have more tricks up their sleeves in regards to hard forking POW, sybill attacks than you have half heard about ... if these wiener VCs and guvcorpro-bully boyz want a fork intrigue over this they better show up well prepared ... it's not about the money, it's about sending a message, choose your team wisely. So you`re siding with Gavin? Well I`ll be... you're probably too late an arrival to know up from down ... let's just say Gavin crapped in the nest, he was a useful steward and clean-cut kind face for Big Brah when bitcoin needed to front the first media shitstorms but now he's just embarassing himself amongst the adults. Satoshi knows and you do not want to be on the fork satoshi dumps on ... |
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I see where you're coming from, but some kind of humans have to write the code when all is said and done, this stuff can't write itself.
well having 1 download location opens up the chance of someone replacing the compiled version with dodgy code. even with torrents where the ultimate code originates at one seed. so i was thinking more like: blah-de-whine-de-blah Well, you can argue successfully that this is already happening: we've had the Hearn led fork attempt, then the Garzik led job.
agreed, though i dont want to raise the debate about why the hearn/R3/toomin implementations failed.. i atleast applauded that they done it decentralised. rather then push their agenda into only 1 implementation by force. they ultimately failed for other reasons. but not forcing it into ust 1 controlled implementation, allowed for choice i think all new ideas should sit beside eachother to let the community decide. EG if core want to release corev013sw.. (segwit) they also need corev012 to remain available so that it doesnt seem like forcing people to download and more of a choice. more-blah-de-whine-de-blah rather than bitcoin.org/corev013sw.exe or STFU ... just build it from source yourself you unstoppable whiner. I have a script that does exactly that (including many dependencies built locally from a hashed-checked source tree if you like? so many entitled demands and whinges and suggestions but so little action. Take care of yourself. |
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let me say it again
less than 380, NEVER AGAIN.
I feel like maybe you haven't been paying attention to the fact that the community has been tearing itself to pieces like a mental patient on bath salts? everyone can see as clear as day there is some power struggle with bitcoin dev. and the solution to block limit is hard to see. i'm not / no one is denying that the speculations that bitcoin is about to fork as a result, and the dire consequences that ensue, are largely exaggerated. so what, the big picture looks gr8, segwit is a huge improvement, MUCH better solution then simply upping the limit. and to me the fact that "the community has been tearing itself to pieces like a mental patient on bath salts." is just fucking bullish... yep, and I know who my money is on in this game ... it will be the cypherpunks and cryptogeeks who built this thing and truly understand its subtle nuances and well-balanced incentive structures rather the CoinBase brian armstrong's R3 Hearn's and sundry govt toady boot-licker johnny-come-latelys who want a new PayPal for Big Bruh data-harvesting and black-listing. the cypherpunks have more tricks up their sleeves in regards to hard forking POW, sybill attacks than you have half heard about ... if these wiener VCs and guvcorpro-bully boyz want a fork intrigue over this they better show up well prepared ... it's not about the money, it's about sending a message, choose your team wisely. |
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Nothing is happening...
... time to load up again, I tell you this only once. Never again marcus.  lol ... feel good? Ok, get on board now, promise no more tricksies. The internals are shaking and creaking, canna hold it down no more cap'n ... boomtimes coming. |
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Nothing is happening...
... time to load up again, I tell you this only once. |
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