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241  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Decentralised crime fighting using private set intersection protocols on: March 24, 2013, 07:03:27 PM
And this is how china gains control of the the financial world. 1 billion people forced to follow their government blacklist.
242  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Can some sort of miner be run with the phone line's power, not making it "busy"? on: March 24, 2013, 05:32:18 AM
First I ever heard of this. So in Brazil, you guys all have a sort of "POE" (power over ethernet) but for your phones? So you don't have to plug any of your phones into outlets?
You guys must have pretty thick phone cables.
243  Economy / Speculation / Re: When the price of Bitcoin rapidly drops I... on: March 24, 2013, 04:44:15 AM
Tilt your head to the right. The poll chart is showing you the finger.

My name is Inigo Montoya. The poll chart killed my father. It shall prepare to die.
244  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: How Often Do Cards Blow Up? on: March 24, 2013, 03:11:04 AM
Well the way they usually go is they stop being stable at 1gh+ and you have to lower it to 950 then it will be stable a week or two more. You might be able to lower it then to 850-900 for a couple weeks. Then they die.

Don't buy used 5830's!
Mine is the sapphire that was so popular back in the day. Got it used around Feb. last year. Set it up and have been running it 24-7 at 1GHz with no overvoltage ever since with probably no more than 3 weeks total downtime. linux, no GUI.
245  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: How Often Do Cards Blow Up? on: March 23, 2013, 07:53:57 AM
I've never had any problems with my Sapphire 5830s but I never mess with voltages to get them to 300MH/s.
Really? I've never had to touch the voltages to get to 1GHz (321MH/s). Thing's been stable 24-7 for 24 days of uptime as of right now. My outage 24 days ago was due to a power outage.
246  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL news? on: March 23, 2013, 07:31:22 AM

Who ever set up that "production area" is a fucking idiot and does not really understand what they are doing, certainly as regards Anti-static procedures for handling  ASICS and PCB's at the level they claim they have.

Sorry but that is an epic FAIL.........


Really? I've never worked with ASICs but I had a part-time job for about a year or so assembling and soldering components on boards. This setup is identical. You are aware that those mats on the tables are anti-static, right?
In fact, that's practically the same setup I had.

Would you care to expand on what exactly is wrong with it?

"Are those really plastic mats covering the carpet, with wheeled chairs on top of them, and metal-framed desks?"

Look closer. The carpet ends before the production room. Looks like concrete to me.
247  Other / Off-topic / Re: Selling my FPGA mining rig on: March 23, 2013, 07:03:03 AM
"So, if you buy 1 board for 6 BTC, it will pay for itself in just 65 days. Yes, I know, difficulty will adjust and so forth, but still it should be a very good ROI."
My 5 month projections indicate that in 5 months I will have ~3-3.5BTC gained from purchasing one of these if it is delivered tomorrow. My estimates are based on a total network hashrate of ~500TH/s by August end and some generously small difficulty changes until the beginning of June. I do all my calculations in a spreadsheet and do them as per-target-period estimates for greater accuracy.
Therefore, in my opinion, this statement is misleading. Difficulty adjusting and so forth is much more relevant now.

I am still interested in a single unit but can only offer 4BTC plus shipping to Canada. I am interested in this more as a hobby project since I never got past GPU mining but don't want to be out the 4BTC for anything past the end of this year. I'd do escrow but if you can have a couple people vouch for you, I would do a direct pre-payment since you already seem trustworthy.

I don't want to waste space in the auction thread with this if you have better offers. PM me if you find you are interested.
Otherwise, any pointers to less expensive FPGAs around the 200MH/s - 400MH/s range would be hot  Grin I've been trying to get my hands on something just to play with and set up.
248  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: P2Pool monitoring app on: March 22, 2013, 04:56:47 AM
I love it. This needs to be done. Phone monitoring apps was one of the main reasons I used to go back and forth between BTCGuild and P2Pool.
So far, I think it is and excellent start and if you can make an app out of it, that would be wonderful. Eventually, I personally would appreciate the following features:

*some P2Pools are public so selective monitoring by username would be useful. For example, instead of running their own instance, my friends have started to just use mine.
*a widget is an eventual must
*notifications (offline miners, selective)
*eventual easy to read formatting is a must, with something like what bitcare does eventually but I can see simply segregating each miner into a "tile" to be a good start
*advanced data for users like average getblock latency, memory usage or peer connections.

I would personally not like to see financial or any "bonus" data before the app becomes fully functional and featureful. There's too many dedicated apps for that already. Another cool "bonus data" could be fetching the balance of the miner address.

I don't throw my money at developers too much early on. I'm afraid of them ending up like the AndLTC guy, who kind of left it half-broken and never came back. But this is the kind of app I would be willing to donate to if it can come to pass and you can keep up development.

Keep up the awesome work Grin
249  Economy / Speculation / Re: Google Trends & BTc Price on: March 22, 2013, 02:13:25 AM
http://www.google.ca/trends/explore#q=bitcoin%2C%20bananas&date=1%2F2010%2040m&cmpt=q

`.` bananas are more popular than bitcoins and should be used as a currency.

edit: or is it .`. ? It's been forever.
250  Economy / Speculation / Re: Google Trends & BTc Price on: March 22, 2013, 02:08:55 AM
http://www.google.ca/trends/explore#q=bitcoin%2C%20crysis&date=1%2F2010%2040m&cmpt=q

coincidence? I think not!
251  Economy / Speculation / Re: Google Trends & BTc Price on: March 22, 2013, 02:06:11 AM
Before the recent spike and not including the summer of 2011, the search term "bitcoin" was about the same as "U of T"

How many people here know what U of T is without googling?

http://www.google.ca/trends/explore#q=bitcoin%2C%20U%20of%20T&date=1%2F2010%2040m&cmpt=q
252  Economy / Gambling / Re: Looking for Peerbet Android app beta testers - free Bitcoins available on: March 22, 2013, 01:25:39 AM
username: mokahless
253  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: How Often Do Cards Blow Up? on: March 22, 2013, 12:30:53 AM
Just had my first 5770 die on me.... so sad (and annoying) I spent ages trying to work out if the spangle on the screen and dramatic hash drop was a software glitch. Turns out the thing is dead.

Does this happen much I wonder? And what do you do with the dead cards?
I've personally only had one card die. It was an 4870 and it died because of me, not because of itself. I tried to do the voltage mod on the memory and fried it.
My only other dying experience was the fan. XFX was nice about replacing it. I now regularly run the thing above 100*C with no issues.
I've never had a card die on me with normal use, or Bitcoin mining.

In my experience, and from hearing about video cards dying from friends, it is pretty damn rare.

The definitive statisics, though, shall come from the first Bitcoin miner to post in this thread who has at least a cluster of 40 cards.

My suspicions are lots of dead fans and maybe 1 dead card but we'll see.
254  Economy / Speculation / Re: Pullback from $75? on: March 22, 2013, 12:21:53 AM
I thought that very same thing...


...at $35

+1

Then again at $45

And again at $68

255  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining on: March 22, 2013, 12:19:41 AM
Anybody got any sites for mining that is better then BitMinter with CPU been mining for 28 hours and haven't even accumulated .001 yet?
Any donations to this newb would be greatly appreciated doesn't have to be a lot anything helps thanks everybody for taking time to help me  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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It is not the site, it is the hardware. You can't expect more than a few MH/s from a CPU.
To achieve 0.001BTC/day, you need to achieve at least 10MH/s.

If you have a quad core CPU, you can expect between 5-15MH/s without overclocking. So if you are in this for fun, just keep going. Posting your MH/s and the CPU model you are using would help us help you also. If you have a sufficient CPU and aren't getting the correct speed, we can help try to figure out the problem.

Stick an Ati 5830 in an old desktop and you'll be mining 260MH/s around BTC 0.8 per month for a £60/$100 investment. Use a mining pool that pays daily I recommend 50BTC but BitMinter is good too.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

If you are more interested in mining very small-time, I would recommend this. Although not profitable now, this was my first dedicated setup about a year ago and is great fun.
256  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Starting a home network - crucial issues on: March 22, 2013, 12:10:11 AM
**DUPICATE POST**

please respond in this one:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=156120.msg1654398#msg1654398
257  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Creating little mining rig network on: March 21, 2013, 11:49:18 PM
Hi.
My friends and I have couple strong PC's running on Win7 OS. I want to connect our rigs using poolserver. Power of our computers should be enough to 'solo' mining so we don't want  to join to big poolserver but make a own one. We don't need to share income. We want to have one wallet for btc's and use it in common bussiness.

1. Is this possible that one computer has this wallet running and rest of computers has only miner-role?

2. Which poolserver application fits best for our expectations? (i prefer poolserverj beceause it works on windows)

3. How to configure poolserver to keep income in one wallet?

4. How to configure miners to work in web like this? (i prefer cgminer or guiminer)

5. What are requirements for network bandwith? Home network can handle it or we have to loan vps? (aproximately 15-20 of computers)

1. Mining and having a wallet are completely separate so... yes.

2. Just use bitcoind. You have proven you don't need a poolserver with this statement:
"We don't need to share income. We want to have one wallet for btc's and use it in common bussiness."
So run bitcoind, forward the ports and connect.

A reason for the poolserver though might be for stats. I have no experience with any pool servers besides p2pool nodes, so I can't help there.

3. As I said, mine to bitcoind and it will all go into one wallet.

4. Just like you configure them now. You can set the password and username in the bitcoin.conf file. You can use dyndns or no-ip or another dynamic ip service to point to the pool.

5. Certainly not very high. P2pool seems a bit demanding and I haven't gone over 30KB/s in spikes. This is with two friends mining (1.5-2GH/s total) and up to 25 total connected peers. (I might cap my peers to 5 and 5 soon though due to bandwidth caps).
So that is P2Pool and I only tell you about that because I am unsure of bitcoind but I know it would be less.


I am going to put this in bold in case you didn't actually look into the requirements for solo mining:
At the current difficulty, you will need 240GH/s to average mining one block per day. If you do not have this, solo mining is not plausible.
In less than 2 weeks, this requirement will increase to 320GH/s

So by "strong PCs" I hope you mean quadfire 7970s and by "a couple friends" I hope you mean 30+
--> This would average you 2 blocks per week until 3 days from now... then with the difficulty change, it would be more like 1-2 per week


If you mean what I think you mean and that you have 3 friends where one has a 7970, one has a 6970, one has crossfire 6870s and you have maybe crossfire 7970s, you could go your entire lives without finding a block solo. Because that would total ~2.6GH/s and it would take an average of 3 months to find a block. And this doesn't take into account the fact that every 2 weeks, the difficulty changes, further making the average time longer and longer. That fact alone makes it extremely unlikely you will ever find one.

Instead, I would recommend setting up a P2pool node (just a computer running bitcoin and p2pool) and pointing all your miners towards it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18313.0
I personally like this idea and as I have mentioned above, it is what I do. The disadvantage of P2Pool is the same as solo mining, just reduced. This is only because P2Pool is currently only 300-400GH/s strong. Which introduces a lot of variance. For example:
A bit over a week ago, we went a whole couple days without finding a block.
The past few days have been very plentiful. I have made a lot of coin.

The other disadvantage is the payout system. It uses PPLNS. If you mine on and off, your payouts will be smaller than "normal" pools. You cannot get a real view of your profits until you mine non-stop for at least 24-hours and then wait for the next block. I've been getting about 0.06BTC/ block found.

Therefore, before suggesting joining my pool I did two thing:
1. Asked my friends if they intended to mine at or close to 24-7.
2. Had them set up a backup pool on BTCGuild PPS without using --failover-only.

I hope that at some point p2pool will become large enough to remove the variance. This will make it more attractive. Kind of a chicken and egg problem though. Need less variance to attract more people... need more people to achieve less variance.

P2Pool  ha..worst payouts I have ever had.

Read above.
P2Pool also had software problems until late last year that caused issues and lower-than-expected payouts.
258  Economy / Economics / Re: There's more money in Bitcoin than in... on: March 21, 2013, 10:45:27 PM
Does this mean we all together could buy the Cayman Islands?

...

OK who's in?

I already have one of those. It's the lower end but I unlocked the shaders.
259  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin market cap is now almost... [mona lisa reached] on: March 21, 2013, 10:43:11 PM
Assessed value of the Mona Lisa reached.
260  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Have any Canadians received their batch #1 Avalons? on: March 21, 2013, 04:24:20 AM
I'll be keeping my eye on this thread as I am considering a batch #3 order.

Edit: Just saw the new price.
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