I think it would be safe to think that they can get at least two boxes a day out the door in the first week so when they come online.

First week present diff $6 BTC.

฿635.31/day for $3,811.88/day $26,683.13/week

Now in seven days the diff will have doubled so second week you can halve those figures in this you can make your money back, more likely to be the case at least four plus boxes a day shipping under that idea the first 3.5 days present diff $6 BTC.

฿635.31/day for $3,811.88/day $13,341.58/for 3.5 days

Now the diff will have gone up by four times so every day after this you get one quarter (฿158.82/day) the return. Not so likely to get your money back now if they manage to get eight boxes a day out the door the same 3.5 days above applies as well but then in another 3.5 days the diff goes up four times again so your return drops by another quarter a day (฿39.7/day) at the end of the first week. To end up at the point where there is not a hope in hell of getting your money back. Nothing in these figures takes into account the doubling or quadrupling of the coins coming onto to the market for this brief time while the system readjusts to the new hashing capacity nor the inevitable extra hashing that will continue to be added as the days/weeks/months go by, as they are not going to want to sell only 50-60 of these 1th/s boxes let alone none of the other offerings they have listed. As well they have end of October listed for availability if they slip a month then we are into the reward halving territory then the best case payback I list here turns into not a hope in hell of one.

Yeah I love the industrial metal look without all the plastic.

Very interesting discussion. So many possible outcomes. I will be talking to BFL in the coming weeks as I contemplate how to invest my capital. I hope they can deliver on their promises. For every difficulty the right gear at the right time will net profit. The trick is when and what.

Your estimates are off.  Every 2016 blocks, the difficulty would most likely quadruple.  Which means in the first week, you'd already see your max profits get quartered.  Give it another week (if it even takes that long) and they get quartered again (1/16).  Another week, another quarter (1/64).  The final week, another quarter (1/256).  Not as shiny, is it?

1 month gross rates for 1TH/s at $6.38 exchange rate

At present difficulty and 25 reward  - $62850.86 USD
Double the Difficulty 25 reward - $31425.43 USD
Triple the Difficulty 25 reward - $20950.29 USD
Quadruple the Difficulty 25 reward - $15712.71 USD

It still seems to me that even as the difficulty ramps up if you are one of the first to market that you will enjoy a good rate of return until the field equalizes. So your actual return over the first 6 months would probably be a sliding scale of upward difficulty but your initial investment seems like it should be paid off rather quickly

There are 2 main way to conquere the market, only one is used but never both:
+ Lowest price point
OR
+ Most technology breakthro in your products line.

So yes, they're bluffing to fool idiots.

My point is exactly that.

As someone pointed out, it does not make any financial sense for such price point.

Its not like they can have trillions chips to ship.

Anyone thinks the low price point is to completely conquer the market is idiot

When I plug the numbers, at Double the Difficulty and Half the reward the gear would still be repaid ($30,000) in 30 days

Why do you think people will not make their money back. If you are one of the first to the table (timing is crucial here I think) mining at 1TH/s should recoup your $30,000 pretty quick even if the reward is halved to 25 and the difficulty starts to ramp up. Like I said calculations may be wrong but it does seem like their is an opportunity here

The cards are crashing and rebooting the system like all the time, I have even under-clocked them but they're still crashing. I assume it's due to high temp, and indeed they usually hover at 80-90 moments before crashing

Now is late here, I will try some of the suggestions tomorrow

Where exactly is the restriction? In number of phycical cards or number of chips?
I understand that it's imposible to fit 5 5830s in W7 32 bit, but is it possible to fit there for example three 5970s?

Wondering why you can't see them, it's hosted on Imageshack

For all I know, there's plenty of thermal paste and the fan seems in good condition, no idea why it's heating... Beginning to think it's something external like the summer here and the design of the case I'm using.

Great device to have. I got screwed in an accident because I am not (white / caucasian)!

There's a more fundamental problem than choice of scale in those graphs - using current hardware speeds to predict times to crack of years or more is meaningless; hardware speed increases exponentially.

More characters in a password will certainly help, but you'd be surprised how high a percentage of users use 8 character or less passwords. Remember, we're not discussing how to secure your account - we're discussing the potential power and implications of the use of ASICs for SHA256 cracking.

Very cool.  And the device their selling doesn't look half bad.

Their webpage, on the other hand, could use some work.  Selling a device that is so technical and having such a poor website doesn't exactly inspire confidence for the consumer.