Wouldn't be the first time the deposit address was changed, I'd have to make a deposit to know for sure it is going somewhere else but am not about to do that. Trade being completely frozen for such a long period really looks like abandonment as you said, the little bit I had left in there is considered gone but I still log in from time to time to see it has grown a tiny bit into a slightly bigger small amount I will never be able to withdraw.

I doubt there's much of an easy to follow trail although people do get sloppy, if someone lost enough and had the resources to really dig into it I suspect they would have made progress by now so agree that it isn't bloody likely.

I figured out what happened to Marcello though, looks like he's giving new video interviews about his new job!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC3NH1a8uEU

Sounds good, I just see updating those sites as a priority if you are looking to drive traffic to them, you'll probably see a larger conversion rate from the hits than leaving it outdated and it heads off a lot of the trolls (hehe the Great and Terrible Terrik for one) who like to use FUD to manipulate markets so they can day-trade a little profit. You simply direct people to the site, where the history and current status are explained and... boom, no more issue.

I checked out the Cryptos Closet site yesterday and it looks pretty good. The site graphics and banners and backgrounds work well and the layout is perfect for what it is/does.

 I'd say some of the model images still look really photoshopped or like you applied the logo on one of those "print your own t-shirt" design sites and just saved the image. It shows what the product would be but if you really want to stand out, model the actual product so you can show the quality (one recommendation is to offer a discount or reward if the customer sends you pictures you can use and then replace the "shopped" pictures with real ones as they sell, I understand you may not want to produce shirts that you don't have sales for and think this might be a good workaround). One of your original intents was to have high quality apparel and graphics so get some closeups of the fabrics and printing and show it off. If you want that to be a differentiator from other sites where you can slap a logo on a shirt and order it then you need to bring it front and center and demonstrate why you're the "premium crypto wear provider of the modern world" well, soon You're competing with Vistaprint's 5.99 t-shirt prices so you may have to make the product look a bit better than they do.

As it stands, cryptoscloset just looks like another "add your logo to a shirt" site, but with higher prices and pre-selected logos, their products can look cheap because they are, yours need a little more razzle-dazzle to get the sale.

Hey Mastertrader,

   A few recommendations for you to take as you will:

- Get better photoshop people. That image is washed out and the female shirt looks ridiculous. You're selling a product that includes some design and imagework so your images need to be much better if you don't want to look like amateur hour.

- Update the mastertrader coin website.. Include details about how it is no longer such a scarce coin and that the premine is now mostly in public hands

- Do the same for the first post in this thread, many people check the first post and it would head off a lot of the fudders if you openly laid out what happened and why right there, as well as some of the other initiatives you have ongoing.

Still appreciate the hustle, but I think these are low hanging fruit that will be important as you bring attention to Toshidesk and MTR, people will go to these sites/resources and if they aren't updated it will put a lot off right from the go.


Keep at it

No, 8-bit-waste my frustration is based on poor decision making and wasted opportunities, you are living in some kind of cuckoo dream world where some petty grudge you hold drives you to post nonsense eternally in the hope that someday you will somehow be able to say "I was right" which would give you exactly one thing you could point other people to that you were correct about and maybe get you some cred (were it to ever happen).

Sorry, I forgot I took you off ignore just to see if you had evolved something meaningful or insightful based on the real world to say, that was a mistake, you are doomed to not only be a perma-troll, but a really, really bad troll that anyone can easily identify and ignore.

I look forward to you going back to the same post every time: This user is currently ignored

I agree with this entirely. Up until the dump I was able to see logic behind a lot of the moves and some reasons behind delays and ongoing work. No matter how you try to explain it away Mastertrader, that dump was poorly executed and an insult to anyone who had been on board with your vision from the start. You seem somewhat business savvy, however you are missing the simplest concept in all of business: Intention doesn't matter, the perception of the customer/investor is law (especially in a startup scenario).

You fed the trolls who were actually running out of material and that turns new investors away and taints all of Toshidesk. You are building a financial platform, there is no room to abuse the trust of those who have supported you since you started, there is no room for lies, deceit or ANY lack of transparency if you desire to succeed. All of your reasons for dumping have some reason to them, but the method you chose to do it does not.

Did you apologize for it and acknowledge it could have been handled better? Not once. Instead you go on and on about how you've been bearing all the costs and doing all the work and had to recover some funds, and needed to dump the premine to get onto exchanges and get new partners interested. I'm sure that pissing off your base of supporters is really going to entice those investors something fierce and dumping on the market when you had said for so long you wouldn't do that is definitely going to make people trust you.

Now, instead of Toshidesk, you're starting a clothing business... You don't like traditional advertising fine, but this is the most ass-backwards way of generating publicity I've ever heard pitched and I've heard some doozies in my time. If you do start selling, someone else will undercut you and take your business, there is zero chance you'll corner the apparel market and keep it. You can have higher quality shirts and inks all you want, when someone is ordering online they can't directly compare and I can't think of anyone who would be ordering an ETH shirt or hoodie thinking "I sure hope this is the best quality fabric and ink because I want to wear this forever". Free Toshidesk T-shirt with 1 year membership purchase, SURE! Sell those T-Shirts for MTR only? SURE! There are a million ways this T-shirt lead could have been integrated into your existing efforts instead of whatever tangent you decided to take it on.

You have the funds from dumping the premine now, how about you focus on Toshidesk and get it done before all this other jazz? You can claim to be able to multitask all you want, truth of the matter is all this junk is distracting from the real end-game. You needed money? You got it. 

My biggest suspicion is that you're just a startup guy. Meaning you can get things started and deal with the chaos, but when it comes to actually taking things to production or setting them up for long-term success, that just isn't your bag. That's fine, startup vs. ongoing business are pretty different skillsets, but recognize your weaknesses and find someone who isn't as all over the place to make your Toshidesk dream a reality because right now, you're crapping all over it yourself like a pro.

So at this point, I'm torn. I still see potential and you've done a lot of good things, but right now, you've treated me (and your other existing investors/MTR holders) like shit. If you're going to treat people like shit, there'd better be a payoff to make up for it and one hell of a good reason not "I did it because I paid for everything to start and I wanted to and it's all mine so I do what I want when I want to".

I felt like there was a potential to invest much more seriously with you at one point, but I like to sit and watch first. It looks like you have ZERO respect for your investors (here comes the line from Mastertrader:oh, they weren't really investors, just looking to profit, blah blah blah, you set that up buddy, everything was under your control and if people bought and sat on MTR it is because you DIDN'T GIVE THEM ANYWHERE TO SPEND IT). Sorry bud, I was, and continue to be a "real investor" as do all who hold MTR, you just turned out not to be a "real opportunity to invest in".

That's it for me, unless things change drastically even following along this thread is a waste of my time. My investment in MTR was always considered a long-shot write-off fortunately, because I am a savvy investor and you were a significant potential risk (now confirmed). Congratulations, you turned a supported and potential active investor into just what you wanted us to be, people who are just sitting on MTR waiting for a profit and really don't care about the project.

You should consider yourself lucky you don't have any real investors and just sold MTR, because real investors would make you gone REAL fast right now and put someone in place who doesn't keep crapping on their shoes.

Good luck!

I can see having a local designer being an advantage but only really if you get custom orders.  I checked with a few online vendors to get my pricing,  mind you that is not a guarantee of the quality I just chose the morning St expensive options for the shirt and ink. Not waiting for the order is a nice advantage as well as not having to pre-order (for that price I needed to make a minimum order of 6 t-shirts).

You don't have to prove you can multitask to me,  I've been witness for long enough.  I was more concerned you were going to lean on this as a primary revenue stream to make progress and wanted to point out some concerns.

The concept of bundling in MTR and sending out more material is interesting, but the pricing seems off. I can order 6 T-Shirts with the same logo online using the highest-quality t-shirts and ink for about 23$ and then shipping is about 10$. I also found a few places offering Ethereum-branded wear online around the same price point (Not counting any value on the MTR you plan to throw in on the deal).

My concern would be that any success would be short-lived since others can easily emulate, the local T-Shirt shop down the street will do a one color full t-shirt print front and back for about 15$. It also stands to take your focus away from Toshidesk and MTR unless you have help to handle this part if it does take off.

Copying really long reply threads to hide negative posts are we?

Come on, seriously you're disappointing me and I've been a supporter for quite a while now.

Bad Execution of premine dump:
Exactly what you did

Good Execution of premine dump:
- Announce it in the thread, give a week warning
- Treat it like an IPO, generate interest but show it has value
- Give people time to prepare/move funds, tell friends, etc.
- Selling the MTR cheaper than it was going and using it as a platform to promote Toshidesk is a good idea, but not driving the value into the ground, that was simply insulting
- Constantly communicate any changes to plan

I think we can all understand needing funds for Toshidesk launch, but the way you went about it and don't seem to see a problem is not a good sign.

Playing with fake currency in Toshidesk testing is all good, but I have to question whether I can actually entrust any real funds to a platform you control (or recommend it to any others) when you are making such questionable decisions.

The issue is the lack of business sense it showed.

You liquidated into the market without warning those who may have brought funds forward and allowed you to make even more off what you sold.  I'm usually impressed with you, but this is a very strange move especially based on prior assurances it wouldn't be dumped.

I think we can all understand a need for funding (well, those of us who aren't trolls) but the way you went about it seems counterproductive.

Toshidesk is coming along,Keep at it, these prices are great for accumulating but I don't think it needed to drop this low.

This is a great way to undermine Toshidesk launch.

Since you chose not to communicate prior to the dump or to do it in any sort of way that respects those still holding out hope for your project I hope you realize that you have undermined your entire undertaking.

Good work, with this new obstacle, I no longer see how you can overcome the hurdles ahead of you.

This is the opposite of a smart and calculated move, it feels more like a panic move because you see something coming to bite you and are running. This may not be the case, but it is exactly what it looks like, and since you can no longer be taken at your word at all it is exactly what it will be interpreted as.

I congratulate you for being the ultimate troll by proving the trolls hanging out in the thread right once and for all.

I find it odd that as Toshidesk materializes they lose faith.  This isn't the Lamborghini you get from the showroom and drive once in a while.  This is a build-it yourself hot-rod.  Let him get it rolling then let him start worrying about getting the right spoiler and intake. Charts can be adjusted and changed,  I'm assuming of course he has built a platform that can be fairly easily modified,  but I'm much more interested to see the basic mechanics of the tool in place and incremental improvements being made.

Despite current value,  this is one venture where progress has constantly been made and someone willing  to keep at it with some brains is a far better investment than many others.

I'm not a huge holder but these prices are hard to resist.  I consider it a risk, but no more so than many other options.

Keep working at it,   it is good to see someone execute their vision and not lose sight of the end-game.

Well done, I wish you great success in your future scams endeavors.

All he ever posts unless someone quotes his rambling uselessness is "This user is currently ignored" 

I saw that and appreciate it.  Difficulty has indeed gone up.  My idea is just to get more references from a collection of people who signed up at different times to see if there are any anomalies.

I guess a simple google docs with payout,  hash rate owned,  join date,  currency mined and ensuring any referral bonuses aren't included would be good.

As for the free hash rate,  looks like Genesis gifted some to everyone on Jan 12th. It shows up on your account contracts page.

I have also wondered if maybe everyone's lifetime contracts magically drop in payouts as they approach and pass ROI. 

Someone should set up a site where Genesis investors can anonymously share their Payout/Hashrate ratio in bulk,  and what they are mining.  This would quickly identify any inconsistencies. Ideally people would share a wallet Addy so those payouts could be verified but I don't believe this level of trust would be viable unless only done between trusted friends.

Genesis: Understand please that if you keep your investors in the dark,  the smarter ones will eventually organize and find ways to enlighten themselves.

Well, this is what my Genesis contract has to say about my lifetime SHA mining.

So a lifetime contract is not necessarily forever, but as long as the mining remains profitable.

I popped in here today to see what people were saying as I've seen the payments drop drastically in the last couple of months. I've been a customer for almost a year, and have seen both drops and increases in payments, but they usually mapped to changes in BTC value or difficulty, which makes sense.

Coming up on a year, I was planning to increase my hashrate with Genesis as their overall service has been good and has instilled confidence. They dropped my maintenance fees, offered constant communication and updates and generally made me feel like a valued customer. However with the developments as of late, I believe it may just be better to buy and hold some BTC with the funds I have been setting aside.

I completely understand that there is the additional element of "finding blocks" to take into the mix. In closely monitoring my returns I have, as others mention in this thread noticed that increases in payouts come slowly and are much smaller when BTC value goes up or difficulty drops than the opposite. In addition, Genesis refuses to provide proof of hashrate or report blocks found to their investors making verifying those payouts are accurate difficult if not impossible.

I also looked at this as a long term investment and not a quick payoff. I am close to my ROI point, so the contract being terminated at this point wouldn't hurt too much, but does nothing for what I saw as one of the few "solid" cloud mining organizations.

It is concerning to see payouts drop so low, and will be sad to see what I was hoping would be a long-term relationship end, but it is looking like that is the direction this is headed in.

I appreciate that there are still payouts coming to my wallet Genesis, but it might be time to consider sharing a little more detail with your customer base about the blocks you are finding. I for one will be holding back on any further investments until such time as there is more clarity into exactly what is going on and will content myself with the dribble into my wallet as long as it keeps coming.

PSA: SCRYPT.CC IS A SCAM DO NOT INVEST. THE METHOD BELOW IS POSTED ONLY FOR THOSE TRYING TO GET THEIR FUNDS OUT.

Please also ignore DUMBASEF,  it is a troll account lying at your expense if you listen to it

The schedule is not regular but every 2 weeks or so the hot wallet is cleared and payouts of small amounts are made. For those with money still trapped there is still hope to recover some.

DO NOT MAKE ANY NEW DEPOSITS.
-If you are Willing to take the loss you can sell your MHS
-Otherwise set autobuy to a very low value of 100 sats
-Set withdraws for 0.0089 BTC or less with whatever you receive and keep queueing them up.

This technique is slowly helping some pull funds out,  avoid large withdrawals and eat the fees for multiple small.  Chances are the next time they clear the hot wallet you will at least get your queued withdrawals.

Note: There is no active support or e-mail for scrypt.cc and payouts are cut with every withdrawal round. Withdraw max amounts and payout amounts also tend to drop with every withdrawal round.

DO NOT EXPECT TO MAKE A PROFIT THIS WAY AND THERES NO GUARANTEE THIS WILL CONTINUE TO WORK. THE SITE IS A SCAM,  DO NOT INVEST.

I believe his motivations are far more greedy.  He probably realizes that  when new funds stop coming in entirely payouts will also completely end.

He also realizes many people will only read the last page or two...  and a positive comment is enough to trick most.

PSA: SCRYPT.CC IS A SCAM DO NOT INVEST. THE METHOD BELOW IS POSTED ONLY FOR THOSE TRYING TO GET THEIR FUNDS OUT.

The schedule is not regular but every 2 weeks or so the hot wallet is cleared and payouts of small amounts are made. For those with money still trapped there is still hope to recover some.

DO NOT MAKE ANY NEW DEPOSITS.
-If you are Willing to take the loss you can sell your MHS
-Otherwise set autobuy to a very low value of 100 sats
-Set withdraws for 0.0089 BTC or less with whatever you receive and keep queueing them up.

This technique is slowly helping some pull funds out,  avoid large withdrawals and eat the fees for multiple small.  Chances are the next time they clear the hot wallet you will at least get your queued withdrawals.

Note: There is no active support or e-mail for scrypt.cc and payouts are cut with every withdrawal round.

DO NOT EXPECT TO MAKE A PROFIT THIS WAY AND THERES NO GUARANTEE THIS WILL CONTINUE TO WORK. THE SITE IS A SCAM,  DO NOT INVEST.
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