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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BIT-POT.com - discussion thread (share your opinion) on: March 23, 2017, 01:25:52 AM
Thank you all for opinions, most of them is releveant and noted.
Definitely too much ads. Agree, actually the initial idea was more about lotery than gambling (the first run didn't end well but no users were harmed) that's whay so many ad spots. Banners works well as section dividers also but I'm going to reduce them.

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Do you understand this is a gambling like what?? i dont understand how to play this games because for me it's like a ponzi. yes he put too many ads it will make the player a bit confused.

Have you visited the web? It's very simple with all instructions how to play. What exactly you didn't understand?  
I'm sorry a Ponzi? How come. Our wining/losing conditions are public, all bets locked in blockchain and payouts every few days.


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Maybe you could provide an explanation of how you chose the odds, what the house edge might be, and give an example of how it works.  That might help some who don't want to have to think about the math behind the game.  Otherwise, it looks pretty simple.
 
The game is simple indeed but good point. True answer is: 10-numbers and 6-letters so odds are 62.5% vs 37.5%  

 
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / BIT-POT.com - discussion thread (share your opinion) on: March 21, 2017, 11:34:58 PM
Hi all, I'm  BIT-POT.com admin (introduced a new game recently)

We offer users to PLAY a BTC BLOCKCHAIN GAME & MULTIPLY their BTC - anybody can WIN 1.62x or 1.37x of his BET (or LOSE it all) for more details visit our WEB or OUR POST IN GAMBLING SECTION

I'm interested in your opinions about our service.
Feel free to ask questions.



UPDATE (collected so far)

missing odds -  5:8 (to hit number 62.5 % chance to get 1.37 x BET) & 3:8 ( to hit letter, 37.5 % chance to get 1.62 x BET). - Web updated

too many ads - Noted. It's issue for almost all users. Will reduced them.

loading time - reducing the number ads should help fester page load. Currently we also experiencing long time load for gamebook page. This is caused by chainso.io API response delay (using them to show incoming bets asap). So I'm working on other way (using blockchain.info websocket)   
3  Economy / Gambling / BIT-POT.com - NEW BLOCKCHAIN GAME - MULTIPLY YOUR BITCOINS on: March 20, 2017, 01:40:50 AM
Back again and this time with new BLOCKCHAIN GAME - BIT-POT GAME 01
(our previous game had few flaws, see: [ANN] BIT-POT.com - NEW BITCOIN GAMBLING)


BIT-POT.com
MULTIPLY YOUR BITCOINS
visit website to find more details
- No registration required -


Odds
5:8 to hit number
(62.5 % chance to get 1.37 x YOUR BET)

3:8 to hit letter
(37.5 % chance to get 1.62 x YOUR BET)





F.A.Q.

How can we prove "Fair Bets" ?
The winning criterion is publicly known
anybody can check their BET in blockhcain (same deposit address for all)


Do we have funds ?
Yes, we hold backup funds at: 1998kTjDHtvvc27bmB37VHKxSAWAsDwgBH
(winners are paid from other address)




Feel free to provide feedback, post suggestion or ask questions.


  
4  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] BIT-POT.com - NEW BITCOIN GAMBLING on: January 12, 2016, 08:36:41 PM
the design looks really cool to be honest im very keen on trying it out i hope that i will manage to win some huge pots out here

I am also a bit glad that a new site was launched and I was unaware about it. I will try this too and lets hope we have a new stable site for long time. Best of luck OP with your site and PM me for any giveaways.

Thank you both for kind words. Actually someone won quite nice 0.2 BTC few days ago, so the pot is halved  Sad 
@Supercrypt you're on top the list Wink  when pot2 comes alive, you'll be the first one who know.   


NEWS: working on second pot but have to reconsider the concept a bit due to recent findings about provably fair game (can find details up the thread). so the new have to be a PF. 
I takes time, but doing all I can

Meanwhile please feel free to participate in POT1
5  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] BIT-POT.com - NEW BITCOIN LOTTERY on: January 09, 2016, 06:25:30 PM
high contrast map in the background? Think I know where its from, will get rid of it.

I'm talking about this kind of thing:



Can you read that text? Because I can't. Parts of it are white on white.

If you were own 25% of hashpower, would you bother and setup your miner?

I don't know, but it doesn't matter. Miners can easily cheat the other players. Whether they do or ever will is beside the point. The game certainly isn't provably fair when one group of players can cheat another group of players.


No, I can't read the text and understand your concerns. Web should not appear like on your screen ... this background should be only in 'pot games section' where is overlapped with another element to make the text readable.
Could you please post/PM me details of device you use (screen res. browser ..)?   

Anybody else having same issue with unreadable content?


I understood 'provably fair' is describing the relation between you-me (user-provider) like user can prove he made the bet, I can prove he made the tip....
But regarding the fact there is no hash exchange between us and you actually have no physical proof, makes  this game cannot be marked as provably fair.
I'm going to change it.

Thanks for comments


6  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] BIT-POT.com - NEW BITCOIN LOTTERY on: January 09, 2016, 04:57:56 PM
Hello admin, i made a bet but i forgot to click proceed on input form before sending the transaction Sad

this is the transaction id: https://blockchain.info/tx/1aa33e752bcde7769fa7c0d5edb7bdbc81bbd7070d0a014b042ef8ee5010a859

i made a 0.01 BTC bet with 1 tip bet... it was confirmed at block https://blockchain.info/block-height/392322
at block https://blockchain.info/block-height/392328 (+3 after my bet valid) i would win if i didn't this mistake lol
but i can't proof that i made a 1 tx bet..., but i would like at least the refund if possible please... i was not intend to donate that

on really i filled the form, but didn't clicked to confirm the bet... so arround 2min later i sent from blockchain the transaction and noticed that i didn't confirmed it lol... after that i tried to fix the mistake but it showed "GIVEN BTC ADDRESS BALANCE IS 0" Sad

Hello skiingtiny, I can't confirm your tip either because all the old tips are removed from dtb (not archived) but refund is of course possible .. coming soon.

Honestly I have been counting with situation like yours can happen ( user send the bet but forgets to provide the tip ) and there is cca 5 minute buffer to provide the tip (not works when the tx is confirmed already).
It was tested multiple times but always using address with remaining balance and this is it. Because when user hit the button, the script checks if addy balance is sufficient to make minimal bet. Which in your case does not thus you have seen the 'GIVEN BTC ADD..' notice)
I'm going to think if the 'ballance check part of script' can be removed to avoid similar issues in the future. 

I'm sorry for complications and thank you for detailed report and please accept a small reward (30% of your risked amount) in form of additional refund as compensation.
Make new bet for up to 0.003 BTC and provide me the address.     

Thanks
 

 
7  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] BIT-POT.com - NEW BITCOIN LOTTERY on: January 06, 2016, 11:02:08 PM
I find it impossible to read your site because there's a high contrast map in the background. But by selecting the text and copy/pasting into a text editor I was able to read:

Quote
THE BET? ANYBODY CAN CHECK IN BLOCKHCAIN - SINGLE DEPOSIT ADDRESS FOR ALL
THE WIN? PUBLIC KNOWN RULES + PROOF OF BET = NO CHANCE TO SCAM
THE TIP? IN THIS YOU HAVE TRUST US

1. BLOCKHCAIN is spelled wrong. It would be worth running a spellchecker over your site because I guess there are other similar errors.

2. Could you get rid of the background so the text is legible?

3. "NO CHANCE TO SCAM"? It seems people are betting on the future actions of the miners. Doesn't that give the miners a huge advantage? If I control a mining pool with 25% of the hashpower, I have a 25% chance of mining the block which decides whether I win the pot or not. I can make sure that 25% of the time my prediction comes true. You should remove the text "provably fair" (and even just "fair") from the site - since it isn't fair, let alone provably so. Miners have a huge advantage at the expense of non-miners.

4. What is this? "THE TIP? IN THIS YOU HAVE TRUST US"? I think you're using the word "TIP" to mean a guess of the number of transactions in a future block. Why do we have to trust you about that? Do you mean I could guess 10 and you could change my guess to 11, and I have to trust that you won't?

great comments, thanks for them

high contrast map in the background? Think I know where its from, will get rid of it.

1. didn't realize such a basic thing. Inexcusable, sure I have to fix this.
2. thinking you talking about the rules section? I didn't found it hard to read but yes I can remove it.   
3. Well, this is quite grey area for me and had been raised previously. Tried to make it harder (originally you were guessing the same block as your tx) but can't deny your hypothese so just provide you my point of view.

If you were own 25% of hashpower, would you bother and setup your miner? Wouldn't you have more important things to do? Make such insignificant profit, risking somebody make same tip as you and split the reward? True is, I can't say. Maybe all the winners were miners already and made a well prepared tip, but so far i'm not convinced it can be easy profit. When 25% of the time your prediction comes true you win every 4th block and each tip cost you 1mBTC so yea, after few successful rounds pot can run dry  ... I just need to learn a lesson, then I will end the game.

provably fair stands together for: both sides can prove the bet was made. I have DTB , user can made screenshots and for both there is blockchain.
Could ever be an online card game provably fair when some people know how to count?

       
4. Yes, exactly, jusr your TIP (guess) is not recorded on blockchain. It's just number in DTB so you have to trust me I have no reason to change it manually in case of your win.     


8  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] BIT-POT.com - NEW BITCOIN LOTTERY !! REFUNDING !! on: January 06, 2016, 06:39:11 AM
YOUR BET ID: IqOd3vzOUw
YOUR TIP: 1
YOUR BTC ADDY: 1E6ivt6aCDkahfxjWA1E6NpMUGfouArMdB

can i take the last spot? thanks
0.01btc bet too

Sure, the last spot is yours.

 
then it's DONE, all refunds have been sent, hope I can come up with similar action soon.

Thank you all

9  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] BIT-POT.com - NEW BITCOIN LOTTERY !! REFUNDING !! on: January 05, 2016, 09:35:14 PM
i'll try my lucky here, hope i can win

YOUR BET ID: ACNvt6hWSU
YOUR BTC ADDY: 1JS4LyVHeGKtwE51ZjLBFwXYuwgnCDgUnL

0.01 BTC =D


thumbs up

edit: sorry i mean fingers crossed
10  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] BIT-POT.com - NEW BITCOIN LOTTERY !! REFUNDING !! on: January 05, 2016, 09:18:05 PM
must paying before yeah  Roll Eyes

yes please, such a cruel world we are facing now Cheesy
11  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] BIT-POT.com - NEW BITCOIN LOTTERY !! REFUNDING !! on: January 05, 2016, 09:06:18 PM
see my picture http://prntscr.com/9miuks   

i win or no


Hmm ... you can win. Just try it. Wink  ... if a "WON x.xxx" would be there, then we polemize about.
12  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] BIT-POT.com - NEW BITCOIN LOTTERY !! REFUNDING !! on: January 05, 2016, 08:42:49 PM
going to try too

YOUR BET ID: BDQwztU2J6
YOUR BTC ADDY: 18n8CUQCACXftfuPnYn8LLnas88JEk7PyV
BET: 0.01 BTC

Refund is comming soon, thanks for playing.

 
...
Received, thank you

You're welcome.


& for all others:
The REFUNDING is still ON... a chance to WIN 0.32 BTC for FREE (last2 tries).  

13  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] BIT-POT.com - NEW BITCOIN LOTTERY !! REFUNDING !! on: January 04, 2016, 10:30:12 PM
So you were the mysterious donator  Cheesy (as your address was not listed in pending tip database, it has been considered as donation )
I'm sorry but in OP is stated: one refund per account (or similar) ... but don't be worry, your BTC were not lost, they will serve good to some lucky winner.
Thank you

For a new website, I'd be careful in garnering negative attention like that. If at all possible, I would refund him for the mistake even though it will reduce the pot. Will show better on your relatively new business / startup.

Well, you have used quite reasonable argument and after all why not, I'm going to refund erre. thanks for educating



I indeed found the tone pretty derisory. I made a mistake, right, and i don't deserve nothing more than a glacial "sorry, all incoming btc from not registred address are considered as donations" . But being the third user who tried your site should not be a malus at all, and you could had avoided the final "thank you".

Also, your pot is already pretty big, because the blockchain is being spammed (again), so guessing the right tx is almost impossible at this time.

Anyway.... thank you Wink

The refund is comming, don't worry. I'm aware you are third user and appreciate that. Sorry for my quick conclusion.

But blockchain beeing spammed? Right transaction?
There is 1 hour limit to send the bet and get 1 conf. (it never take me more when using proper fee) which is limit for valid bet and this game should be more about luck and not about sending right transations.

     
14  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] BIT-POT.com - NEW BITCOIN LOTTERY !! REFUNDING !! on: January 04, 2016, 09:38:39 PM
ERROR
GIVEN BTC ADDRESS BALANCE IS 0

What

does this mean??


Edit: i managed to understand it: I was using an empty address, and I cannot.

I don't know if i'm still eligible for refund because I already  had one, but nevertheless I tried Smiley :


YOUR BET ID: sFDd3rSgkD
YOUR TIP: 1
YOUR BTC ADDY: 15R3c2GKCqY2DpFuPMdHyee6CAma5BKvaX

Re-edited: just noticed that the blockchain is being spammed. Money lost  Cry


Hi erre, the POT adress never received BTC from your addy, I don't understand what happened ...how could you lost BTC?
Also could you please specify nature of error? In case of invalid BTC addy the script should ask you to provide valid one (same for empty address field)


Bet size: 0.01 BTC

YOUR BET ID: u3dMSzNXhe
YOUR TIP: 1
YOUR BTC ADDY: 1JtkYx3JreLJZpvkT1WXEMcwiuujK6HxQa

Your bet have been refunded, thanks for trying



Sorry wrong address, that was for the change. I sent from 1SoGC63df4ueo1Zum21c9DwUuft5mkyyi

https://blockchain.info/tx/efe99c3d9042c1299614996f0e128fd4ba2637b24ee5e55280c6bb453dd2dab0


So you were the mysterious donator  Cheesy (as your address was not listed in pending tip database, it has been considered as donation )
I'm sorry but in OP is stated: one refund per account (or similar) ... but don't be worry, your BTC were not lost, they will serve good to some lucky winner.
Thank you

 
15  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] BIT-POT.com - NEW BITCOIN LOTTERY !! REFUNDING !! on: January 04, 2016, 09:04:41 PM
if I hit the numbers of txt what is the "winning"?
there is an odds ratio more then 3000!


If you HIT the nr you get all the POT size.

TIP: number 1 is quite often but then you receive only 50% of POT.
16  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] BIT-POT.com - NEW BITCOIN LOTTERY !! REFUNDING !! on: January 04, 2016, 08:56:19 PM
ERROR
GIVEN BTC ADDRESS BALANCE IS 0

What

does this mean??


Edit: i managed to understand it: I was using an empty address, and I cannot.

I don't know if i'm still eligible for refund because I already  had one, but nevertheless I tried Smiley :


YOUR BET ID: sFDd3rSgkD
YOUR TIP: 1
YOUR BTC ADDY: 15R3c2GKCqY2DpFuPMdHyee6CAma5BKvaX

Re-edited: just noticed that the blockchain is being spammed. Money lost  Cry


Hi erre, the POT adress never received BTC from your addy, I don't understand what happened ...how could you lost BTC?
Also could you please specify nature of error? In case of invalid BTC addy the script should ask you to provide valid one (same for empty address field)


Bet size: 0.01 BTC

YOUR BET ID: u3dMSzNXhe
YOUR TIP: 1
YOUR BTC ADDY: 1JtkYx3JreLJZpvkT1WXEMcwiuujK6HxQa

Your bet have been refunded, thanks for trying
17  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] BIT-POT.com - NEW BITCOIN LOTTERY !! REFUNDING !! on: January 04, 2016, 08:44:22 PM
My bet info, thanks! (bet: 0.01btc)
YOUR BET ID: 9WIUweQq73
YOUR TIP: 1
YOUR BTC ADDY: 1MBUBQbuzcbSuHUvrkXW5w3TrNyGk7Sc9J

Hi sousaphonepint, you were added to the list and your refund will come soon. Thanks for trying.


Your site needs a bit of work. The background picture makes the text hard to see.
I will try out this game later, though the game is a big confusing. The refund thing is still available, correct?

Hi DarkStar, As of design, it's really not my strong suit, I have to admit. Will try to work a bit, but at the moment I'm focusing to bring 2nd pot on-line and it takes all my free time.
but a Big confusing game ... why confusing? "Hit the number of transanctions in 3rd block above the one with your tx" ... To me it's simple and clear (but english is not my suit either so it could be confusing for native speakers, in which case please advise better.
Nevertheless, I thank you for comments and please don't hesitate to try it ... Yet last 3 players will get refund. Go for it.

18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: December 31, 2015, 03:21:06 AM
Is their any safe methods to gamble? Means without losing much of our money can gamble?

Any tips or suggestions?

Yes, there is, but its LIMITED  Wink ... check the BIT-POT.com - REFUNDING thread

Nah man you promote your things. For me the safe methods to gamble is doing martingale strategy but only short-term and leave. do it to another dice site everyday like that, and you can earn many bitcoin. just make a target for your profit, so you better don't be greedy or you get busted.

Just offering a safe method... thats what OP asked for, but only one time.
is that bad?
19  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] BIT-POT.com - NEW BITCOIN LOTTERY !! REFUNDING !! on: December 31, 2015, 02:36:39 AM

The REFUND GAME is still on... a chance to WIN 0.23 BTC for FREE.  Don't hesitate to try us.
Sounds good. I'd like to join your game, but I do not really understand how to play your game. Undecided

It is simple:

- you have to TIP how many transactions will be included in block ( exactly 3rd block after your transaction )
- every TIP cost 0.001 BTC  per block ( if you want your TIP to be valid for more blocks you can send more )
- if you hit the correct number you get all the POT, but only 50% if your TIP is 1 tx (which is quite usual)   

hope this helps
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: December 31, 2015, 01:18:53 AM
Is their any safe methods to gamble? Means without losing much of our money can gamble?

Any tips or suggestions?

Yes, there is, but its LIMITED  Wink ... check the BIT-POT.com - REFUNDING thread
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