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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should winning bettors sell subscriptions? on: September 23, 2024, 11:22:17 AM
We see this in Bitcointalk before. They can sell subscription to us here or in out there to have a closed chat/group. Perhaps, they think they are a pro gambler and have a high skills so they want to offers their service in predicting the games. But we must be careful if we see this offers because we don't know them closely and needs to research and find out more info. If I am that winning player over a long period, perhaps I will do the same to earn more money from people who needs to know the prediction without doing research.
2  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Strategi Terbaik Ketika Market Begini? on: September 23, 2024, 06:24:27 AM
Kemarin saya mencoba untuk melakukan tes pasar dengan mengambil posisi long di Binance dan posisi short di Bitget. Tapi posisi di Bitget sungguh tidak berhasil dengan baik karena posisi pasar berubah arah dan saya terlambat untuk menarik keuntungannya dan untungnya fitur stop loss membantu mengurangi kerugiannya. Tapi untuk posisi long di Binance memberikan hasil yang lumayan apalagi sekarang kondisi pasar mulai meningkat walaupun tidak terlalu signifikan.

Sepertinya kondisi market masih akan terus berlanjut seperti ini. Kita masih perlu bersiaga penuh untuk mengantisipasi perubahan arah dari pasar dan jika ada kesempatan untuk masuk, kita bisa mencoba untuk berdagang dan mungkin tidak perlu terlalu serakah untuk berharap mendapatkan keuntungan besar dari pasar dengan situasi dan kondisi pasar yang masih seperti sekarang.
3  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bitcoin - sebuah revolusi tak berdarah on: September 21, 2024, 02:37:25 PM
Ane rasa, negara kita menetapkan bitcoin sebagai aset komoditas sudah cukup bagus, dan relevan dengan apa yang terjadi dengan dunia saat ini. Kalau kita bandingkan dengan negara lain, tentunya kita sudah cukup bangga indonesia mampu untuk meregulasinya dengan baik. Kalau untuk dijadikan mata uang ane rasa agak berlebihan, karena emas yang dulunya dipakai sejak zaman nabi pun enggak kita pakai untuk pertukaran, apa lagi bitcoin yang baru muncul 13 tahun ini. Ane rasa, kalau pun Indonesia mau mengadopsi mata uang lain, pastinya akan melihat aset komiditas lain, seperti emas, atau mata uang lain yang lebih kuat seperti dollar, dsb. Sedangkan bitcoin, ane rasa lebih nyaman digunakan seperti saat sekarang ini tanpa menganggu penggunaan mata uang rupiah.
setuju dengan apa yang om katakan, bitcoin itu sudah benar cuman jadi aset komoditas untuk perdagangan, gak perlu sampai membuatnya jadi mata uang digital untuk transaksi karena kita sudah punya rupiah atau mbanking. lagipula, siapa juga yang mau menggunakan bitcoin untuk transaksi sehari-hari, selain karena waktu tunggunya, ada fees yang perlu dibayarkan oleh pengirim pada transaksi mereka.

menjadikan bitcoin sebagai pembayaran juga mempunyai efek lain yang dimana membuat orang bisa membayar hutang dengan menggunakan bitcoin. jadi banyak pertimbangan yang dimana membuat bitcoin sudah tepat hanya menjadi aset komoditas saja.
Yang terpenting, kita bisa menggunakan Bitcoin untuk mencari tambahan penghasilan melalui perdagangan. Mungkin pemerintah akan tetap memilih untuk menjadikan Bitcoin dan koin-koin lainnya sebagai aset komoditas. Dengan adanya kemungkinan bisa mendapatkan keuntungan yang besar dari berinvestasi di Bitcoin, agaknya orang-orang lebih memilih untuk menyimpan Bitcoin sebagai aset investasinya dari pada untuk bertransaksi. Saya lebih memilih Bitcoin sebagai investasi karena itu lebih memungkinkan bagi saya untuk mendapatkan keuntungan.

Dan untuk keperluan sehari-hari, rupiah sudah lebih dari cukup dalam mengakomodir transaksi lokal kita baik itu di toko-toko maupun antar penjual dan pembeli di luar toko.
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which is easier to rig, point spread or total? on: September 21, 2024, 11:56:17 AM
I think both can be done without anyone noticing or having the slightest idea that it is in the process. However, I would say point spreads are the easiest to rig. I am more focused in basketball than any other sports though. A team could consistently maintain a lead over the other team where they could also act as if they have an off-night. I think that's much easier task in general than both teams going to score to rig the over and under. I mean, what if the goal is to go over, but both teams are struggling to score because they still need to play defense otherwise it would be very obvious because the refs would be blowing a lot of whistles then lol.
People who does the rig will search for the way to do that whether it use point spread or total. Perhaps if they see a chance to rig the point spread, they will do that and they will do that smoothly without anyone knows. I also think about basketball than the other sports because perhaps that can be done easy than the other sports, I mean with the changing on the point spreads, that can be easy to rig. But I don't know for sure because they can use many ways to do without we know and only see the changing in the spreads point. But perhaps, they can also rig the total so both ways can be done by them.
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is The election worth the hype for BTC on: September 21, 2024, 07:21:43 AM
Trump will win the US election easily but i don’t think so that after the appointment of trump as President the price of bitcoin immediately increasing reach 90k usd. This year there will be no huge pump in bitcoin’s price, may be next year the price start increasing and bitcoin will reach new ATH price.
You may have seen how the price of Bitcoin rose after Trump paid for a service or product with it. Can you imagine what will happen if he becomes president? I can say with great confidence that the rate will definitely fly up. I have some kind of premonition of this event. Nothing can happen during such an important event for the whole world.
We will see it later when Trump become a new president. Besides that, the price still need time to increase and reach the high price. Perhaps Trump can helps the price to increase but that doesn't mean the price will jump to the high price in a short time. We hope that what we want can happen after Trump win the election which can affect to crypto market and makes the price start the rally without stopping. But that will not possible as when Bitcoin price increase, the correction will comes after that. With or without Trump, I believe the price will definitely go up and reach the new ATH even we don't know when that will happen.
6  Economy / Economics / Re: Cutting cost: Do we really need the latest smartphone? on: September 20, 2024, 02:41:44 PM
Perhaps for people who always go to many places needs a new mobile phone. But for ordinary people, they may not need to have a new phone and will buy that if they really needs. But young generation always want to have a new smart phone which have more space to save their data and they buy those phones on credit. They willing to do many things to have a new phones but that is not for many of them and only for some.

We can not deny that in a month, many new phones with better qualification launch by each companies. That makes us difficult to follow or even to search for what we need. The thing that you should know before thinking to buy a new phone is try to check your money and your phones. If your phone is okay and not crash or error when you use it, you don't have to buy a new phones.
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your biggest gamble/risk of 2024 so far? on: September 20, 2024, 11:37:09 AM
I use for around $30-$40 so far at once but I don't get a nice results as I lose for $15 for that bet. Perhaps I don't have luck like others so I lose my money. But I still gambling and start reducing my money because I don't want to get the big lost again like before. I don't mind to lose that money because that is the money I can afford to lose and I will not add more money to continue gambling because that will makes me lost more money. We can lose too big money so we must prevent that before we regret it.
8  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How can I stop trade Against the market? on: September 19, 2024, 02:47:11 PM
~snip~
If someone has learned to trade well, they will recognize when they are losing and correct their mistakes. However, some people may ignore this and continue to make the same mistakes, blaming trading when they lose. We know that losing in trading is continual because even if you are professional on it, you will lose even with your knowledge and understanding because the market does not always favor someone, but is more better to learn very well so that he can minimise your risk without losing much of your money.

Most people you see trading are not only trading, but also investing in bitcoin so that they may save money and invest for the long term, with money coming out on both sides. Another thing to remember is that if you are losing a lot of money in trading, it is best to take a break and be patient while learning more about it and monitoring market volatility.
If they ignore their mistake and not trying to figure out the mistake, they will only make another mistake as that will happen many times until they realize. Losing in trading is normal but we must knows how to make a good analysis so we are not lose much money. Even professional make a wrong analysis but they still learning how to fix the wrong thing that they made before. If we can learn more about trading and understand the lesson, our analysis will be better and we can follow where the market move.

Many people trading because they see other people profit but they don't trying to search for how to trade better. They just enter the market without any preparation so that will only makes them lose their money.
9  Economy / Economics / Re: World is run by risks and dominant Independent risk takers it's price of success on: September 18, 2024, 02:39:39 PM
Life is very fair. if you can deal with the risk and know how to manage it, you will see what you can get and how you can do to get that. Not many people can taking the risk because we will have consideration with the good and the bad of decision that we will make. But if we can deal with the risk, we will the way we will go and we can constantly doing what we believe and in the end, we will achieve our target.

To be a success person, we have an effort to do what we believe and the risk will be our friend that will always reminds us to be careful when making a decision. All we do will have risk but that depend how we can control the risk so that risk will not too danger to us.
10  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How can I stop trade Against the market? on: September 18, 2024, 09:53:47 AM
That is happen to many people because they want to make more profit. They don't realizes that the market is already change and they must adjust their strategy and set how much money they can use to trade. But if you think you will difficult to handle yourself, perhaps you can stop trading for a while until the situation is back normal. That will be a good decision because you save yourself, your money and prevent your losses.

When you see the market keeps declining, you don't have to force yourself to trade because your losses can be bigger. That is a bad situation if you lose too much money in trading especially in this moment because you can use this moment to invest more Bitcoin and not just for trading. You should learn controlling your emotion first before you start trading again.
11  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Kesadaran pemuda dalam mengembangkan usaha on: September 18, 2024, 07:38:45 AM
Tidak semudah membalikkan telapak tangan bagi kalangan millenial atau pemuda dalam mengembangkan usaha terutama mereka yang berasal dari kalangan dengan kondisi keuangan yang serba kekurangan. Ada potensi pertaruhan yang cukup besar saat mencoba tantangan membuka usaha di usia muda karena keterbatasan modal dan harus mengambil pinjaman di Bank atau di koperasi.
Satu sisi memang ada keuntungan yang akan diperoleh nanti namun di satu sisi harus siap dengan resiko besar saat usaha kollaps bagaimana harus membayar cicilan karena minim support dari pemerintah atau bukan dari kalangan orang tua yang mapan.

Saya rasa quote seperti ini muncul dari anak muda yang memiliki orang tua kaya raya, mereka tidak mempermasalahkan berapa modal harus dikeluarkan dan saat posisi bangkrut masih bisa bangkit lagi dengan bantuan orang tua. Posisi ini sama sekali tidak bisa bagi anak muda yang memiliki keterbatasan modal karena harus mempertimbangkan secara detail saat mengalami kebangkrutan.
Faktor modal ini yang biasanya menjadi kendala bagi seseorang untuk mengembangkan usahanya. Mereka pasti mikir seribu kali tentang modal ini dan harus benar-benar tepat dalam perhitungannya. Kalau meleset sedikit saja, akan ada risiko yang harus dihadapi dan itu yang membuat mereka harus putar otak. Tapi salut untuk mereka yang bisa tetap bertahan dari tantangan itu dan berusaha untuk mengembangkan usahanya karena itu pasti tidaklah mudah.

Dan ketika ada anak muda yang benar-benar serius dengan usahanya, dia pasti akan mencari banyak cara supaya bisa melalui tantangan itu. Untuk saran saja, sebaiknya pikirkan terlebih dahulu jika ingin mengambil pinjaman dari bank karena ada risiko dibelakangnya dimana mereka harus bisa membayar cicilan tiap bulannya.
12  Economy / Gambling / Re: Chips.gg | CASINO & SPORTSBOOK | 200% DEPOSIT BONUS | 3000+ GAMES on: September 18, 2024, 05:02:01 AM
I don't think the evaluation of previous campaigns is what encouraged them to continue advertising here on the forum. Quite the opposite, because the campaign stopped a long time ago and most likely it was not as successful as expected or that it served its intended purpose considering that the casino was new and needed to be presented to the community as a good and reliable example. The more logical reason is the increased competition in the crypto-based gambling market, which made the platforms compete to get the largest number of users and that is why we see how the number of advertising campaigns has increased, especially the forum signature campaigns.
Sometimes it depends on the budget since running a signature campaign can be expensive, but if it brings good results, it’s worth it. There are also plenty of other ways to promote a casino, so it might just be a matter of priority. Still, it’s great to see them back on the forum because there’s nothing quite like having an ANN thread here with a running signature campaign. It helps keep the ANN thread active, making it easier for potential gamblers to notice.
Budget is something that the owner of the casino need to concern for promoting his casino. I remembered that Chips.gg already advertised  here on the forum but they close the campaign to evaluate what is the results. Maybe they now start a new thing from their site and they already develop something that we don't know so that will be a good time to re-promote their site again. It is good to see their site come here again and compete with the other casinos and I am sure they have something that can be their way to attract more members. Hopefully, they can get the better result than before.
13  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Still got enough cash to buy this Bitcoin dip? on: September 17, 2024, 11:11:03 AM
I will not sell my assets, or borrow to buy bitcoin. Basically, I feel that investing in bitcoin is a risky thing. Because of that, I feel that the DCA method is the best. By using a few percent of my income, to invest in bitcoin. it is better, and minimizes the risk. However, some people may feel that borrowing money and buying bitcoin will be worth the profit they get. However, I suggest that when you want to use this method, make sure you can pay off the debt with the income you have.
We are agree that DCA method is the best. Many people already prove that they are in a good way to accumulate more Bitcoin and will make a big profit in the future. Investing in Bitcoin using DCA method needs consistently so that will not many people can do that and we are a lucky person who can do that. Using DCA method, we can allocating some funds to invest in Bitcoin so that will not disturb our needs that we need to fills. We never suggesting to borrow other people money because that can give us risky in returning the money to them.
14  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: September 17, 2024, 06:37:48 AM
~snip~
Sejauh ini sepertinya cuman Indodax yang punya masalah begini. Untuk exchange lokal lain seperti Tokocrypto dan Pintu, saya hampir gak pernah dengar kabar mereka maintenance saat ada pump koin tertentu. Biasanya maintenance dilakukan kalau ada upgrade sistem saja. Itupun maintenance nya tidak berlangsung lama.
Untuk itulah diharapkan semua exchanges lokal bisa terus meningkatkan kewaspadaannya supaya market lokal bisa menghalau peretasan itu. Tokocrypto versi hape jarang mengalami maintenance tapi Indodax ini yang dari dulu sering mengalami maintenance di saat pump koin tertentu dan sepertinya sudah banyak anggota yang protes tapi hal itu masih saja kejadian.

Dan untuk saat ini, Indodax sudah beroperasi normal lagi. Kita berharap market lokal bisa memperhatikan dengan lebih serius untuk hal ini.
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17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: This is a double loss thing. on: September 15, 2024, 02:32:53 PM
Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended  up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.
Gamble based on predictions will not have the same ratio as normal gamblers. The typical gambler loses only the bet money and the one who buys the prediction and bets they loss in both of the sides. In gambling one can never be sure who will win so no prediction should be 100% certain. This will further increase the loss. It should be remembered that those who attempt to sell such predictions they are not sure. If so, they too could have won by taking part in that bet.
Yes, they are lose in both but I guess they will not stop from betting and still think that is just one lose. They don't realizes that they can lose more money if the prediction is not right while they already pays the subscription fees. We can not get the right prediction even for those people who called as an expert because the match can change anytime. They should consider what if happen if they pay the fee but they still lose. That will make them desperate and they will just waste their money. That's why they must know that it is better they stay away from that signal group especially if they don't know who are them.
18  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why does such a sudden price spike happen? on: September 15, 2024, 10:14:20 AM
No need to surprise to see that spike price because that will happen many times especially when altcoin season coming. Those people who buy at $1 are people who afraid they miss something so they still enter to market and buy that coin in any price. Perhaps some people use buy instant that coin because they think the price will still increase.

But unfortunately, the price is down and back to the price before and makes those people who buy at the high price is lost their money. That will happens to other coins when they see spike price and will think that they can make a big profit.
19  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: September 15, 2024, 03:56:32 AM
PS: Semoga saja setelah maintenance ini, tidak ada lagi maintenance di saat pasar sedang pump seperti yang sudah sering kita lihat sebelumnya Grin
Kayaknya dulu pernah ada yang punya teori konspirasi kalau exchange" sengaja melakukan hal tersebut buat dapetin profit lebih awal. Ga cuma exchange lokal aja sih, orang exchange internasional sampai dulu yang rame banget kaya Robinhood gara" stock Gamestock kalau ga salah. Tapi ya kalau beneran masalah utamanya adalah server yang kedodoran karena akses banyak orang harusnya dibenerin dari dulu, ga nunggu kena hack yang bisa aja toh ga ada hubungannya sama masalah load server. Eniwei market lokal kita udah banyak alternatif sih, jadi kalau masih sering kaya gitu mau ada hack atau engga kemungkinan bakal diperbaiki kalau ga ingin kehilangan banyak user.
Untuk masalah server yang kedodoran karena akses banyak orang itu sebenarnya sudah banyak orang yang memberikan usulan tapi entahlah kenapa masalah maintenance masih sering terjadi di saat pasar sedang pump. Risiko dari exchange itu ya seperti ini sehingga masing-masing exchange harus benar-benar memperhatikan masalah keamanan di situsnya apalagi jika exchange itu sudah besar. Banyak hal yang harus dilakukan untuk bisa melindungi exchange dari serangan seperti itu. Yah semoga saja ini tidak terjadi pada exchange lokal lainnya sehingga konsumen tidak was-was karena itu bisa saja membuat mereka takut untuk memasuki kripto karena masalah peretasan ini.
20  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My do's and don't's way of acquiring BTC on: September 14, 2024, 02:02:47 PM
Things I would do to acquire some Bitcoin (Again & Again if possible).

1. Work my butts off to get paid every month and DCA into Bitcoin.

2. I've sold few lands and I've made back my money already, thanks to Bitcoin, many said it was a bad idea but things went fine for me, I entered at the 17k bottom in 2022, the best decision of my life, if I can I would again, mind you, I have more than the two lands I sold, this might not be a good idea for someone who have one.

There is nothing wrong in working very hard every month just to make sure you continue acquiring Bitcoin because is important to remain very constant on Bitcoin investment in other to have a lot of Bitcoin in your possession. However I must say that you were very lucky to have sold some of your properties to acquire Bitcoin and was still able to gain back those sold properties with a lot of profits remaining, however the reason why I said you are very lucky is that during that time you started was when Bitcoin price was on the bullish trend so it keeps moving giving you the opportunity to acquire that much profits but still I will not advise or even think of selling properties to accumulate Bitcoin because the only money we should use for Bitcoin investment should only be our disposable income because is money that shouldn't have any effect on us.
His strategy in selling his property will only work for him and other people can not follow what he did. That is because he have his consideration when deciding like that so other people needs to consider what they must do to invest in Bitcoin. Perhaps other people needs to have another source of income to earn more money or they can sell something for an additional job or others. Yes, he is very lucky investing in Bitcoin in the right time so he can see the profit coming after him. But other people can still follow him to invest his money in Bitcoin because they have time to buy Bitcoin at the price now so they should not miss that before the price increase.

We should know what we can do and don't so that will help us to run our plan with right. We have that chance to acquire more Bitcoin so we will have more amount of Bitcoin.
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