yep: https://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?topic=5382.0

I know re-enabling the payment processing stuff is on MagicalTux's To Do list. So mtgox will do all these things shortly.

Anybody else occasionally miss trade messages?

ploum: You don't lose money in the mtgox conversion. Your Euro are just displayed as dollars. Your Euros stay in a Euro account

Shouldn't the order_add message tell you if it was a buy or sell order?

I noticed that sometimes the price is sent in quotes:


Not a big deal but weird that it isn't consistent.

It is back up

This depth channel is broadcasting the changes to the depth. It would be nice if you could send something in the beginning to get the current depth table in the same format. Then you can use this feed to change the original depth table as time goes on.
I know I can get it with the old API but it would be nice if the messages were in the same format.
Also is there a point to all these extra fields: "op":"private","origin":"broadcast","private":"depth" ?

Actually the problem is no different than it is now. I can either buy a muffin today or invest that money and buy more muffin in a year.

But you will die if you don't eat anything for a year? Maybe this will cause people to only buy things which are important rather than what they do now which is buy an ton of crap.

I never understand this deflationary argument people give. I think it only applies to national currencies not something like bitcoin. Let me see if I have your argument straight:
1) bitcoin is deflationary so bitcoins will exchange for more and more dollars as time goes on.
2) This means that bitcoins are worthless

huh? which is it? are they going to be worth a lot or worth a little?

why are you using UUID's to name the channels rather than just something human readable like: "trades" ?

Do one of these :) http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382.0

I sent you a PM about how to do this if you are really wanting to.

imanikin: I get your point that dark pools seem like an unfair advantage to bigger investors. But I would argue that the market has a very different reaction to when a big investor places an order than to when a small one does. For example, if a small investor places a bid for 50BTC above all the others there will probably be 0 reaction. But if a big investor places a bid for 5000BTC above all the others the market definitely reacts. Specifically tons of people jump in front of his order.  Probably his order is never filled since the price will just move above it.

There is also the unfair fact that 1 big trader is more valuable to the market than 1 small one since a big trader provides more liquidity. So an exchange has more incentive to keep the big guys happy.
 
I'm actually a bit curious what would happen if the order book wasn't shown at all. I suppose it would make trading less interesting. 

imanikin: can you point to the threads explaining what you don't like about the DP?

The DP definitely reduces volatility. It is hard to buy a sell a lot of BTC otherwise.

The only other complaint I've heard about it is that it makes it hard for speculators to know how much they will move the market with an order. But the only reason to worry about this is if you want to do tricky things like dump a bunch of BTC to lower the price and then buy it back plus some. But I'm not sure this is such a bad thing.

I tend to think it is fine how it is but the limit should be raised so it is really just very large orders.

No mtgox doesn't have a deposit limit.

> But won't the possibility of anything going viral still be stunted by the sheer difficulty of the average person obtaining bitcoins at this point in time?
That is sort of a separate problem that belongs in a separate thread but this doesn't seem hard to me: http://bitcoinmorpheus.tumblr.com/How_to_buy_mt_gox_usd_with_paypal

> Let me steal your idea and implement it!

This is what I want. I want someone to implement this.

I, and I assume many other people, feel that bitcoin will take off once it finds some killer app that really makes use of the strength of BTC. And anyone with any amount of BTC benefits greatly from bitcoin taking off since that will cause the price to skyrocket. So we should all be very interested in this happening.

The best use of BTC I can think of that also has the benefit of spreading the idea of BTC rapidly is a tipping service. Here are some key parts of the service that I and other people have thought of:

o  Twitter tipping system.
 Allow people to tweet BTC tips to other twitter users. Has great
potential to go viral and spread throughout the entire twitter
population.
 A twitter user would just tweet to us: #tip @bob
then we would tweet this fact to bob and send him 1 BTC
If bob already was registered with us then great. Otherwise we would
give him a link to register and claim his coin.
Obviously can spread quickly since this stuff will show up in people's
twitter feeds.
And I think people will like publicly showing their support for what they are tipping.

o   Web based tipping.
A browser plugin that allows you to tip the webpage, facebook page or
blog you are currently reading. The page doesn't have to know about
the tipping service. If it is some new page we will scrape it or the
site for an email address that seems appropriate and send the tip to
it.
Once tipped the site owner will be encouraged to place a tip button on
their site thus spreading the knowledge of the service.

o   SMS tipping.
A service that allows you to send small BTC amounts by text message to
any phone that can receive SMS.
they would just text to our number: send <amount> <number>
Basically the same as the twitter thing but with SMS.

o   Forum tipping plugin.
Plugin for popular forum software allowing people to tip posters they like.

The beauty of all these is that they only require the tipper to know
about the service. Once people are tipped they will naturally want to
find about it to retrieve their coins. I think it would spread pretty
quickly. People who own BTC have extra incentive to tip since tipping will increase the popularity of BTC and thus the value of the BTC that they own.

If you make this you should call it CoinToss