The better question is probably when will the last fraction of a coin be mined. The block reward started at 48 coins per block in August 2011 and halves every 218,750 blocks. The table below shows the block reward out to the maximum eight decimal places. It appears the last decimal turns to zero around 2029. So 2028 will probably see the last block reward, although it gets pretty negligible years before. Then again, what is "negligible" will depend on the value of i0coin at the time.
Block No. of Date Block# Reward Coins % Mined --------- ------- ------- ------ -------- 8/16/2011 1 48 48 0.00% 2/20/2012 218751 24 10,500,024 50.00% 8/26/2012 437501 12 15,750,012 75.00% 3/2/2013 656251 6 18,375,006 87.50% 9/6/2013 875001 3 19,687,503 93.75% 3/14/2014 1093751 1.5 20,343,752 96.88% 9/18/2014 1312501 0.75 20,671,876 98.44% 3/25/2015 1531251 0.375 20,835,938 99.22% 9/29/2015 1750001 0.1875 20,917,969 99.61% 4/5/2016 1968751 0.09375 20,958,984 99.80% 10/10/2016 2187501 0.046875 20,979,492 99.90% 4/16/2017 2406251 0.023438 20,989,746 99.95% 10/21/2017 2625001 0.011719 20,994,873 99.98% 4/28/2018 2843751 0.00585938 20,997,436.53 99.99% 11/2/2018 3062501 0.00292969 20,998,718.26 99.99% 5/9/2019 3281251 0.00146484 20,999,359.13 100.00% 11/13/2019 3500001 0.00073242 20,999,679.57 100.00% 5/20/2020 3718751 0.00036621 20,999,839.78 100.00% 11/24/2020 3937501 0.00018311 20,999,919.89 100.00% 5/31/2021 4156251 0.00009155 20,999,959.95 100.00% 12/5/2021 4375001 0.00004578 20,999,979.97 100.00% 6/12/2022 4593751 0.00002289 20,999,989.99 100.00% 12/17/2022 4812501 0.00001144 20,999,994.99 100.00% 6/23/2023 5031251 0.00000572 20,999,997.50 100.00% 12/28/2023 5250001 0.00000286 20,999,998.75 100.00% 7/4/2024 5468751 0.00000143 20,999,999.37 100.00% 1/8/2025 5687501 0.00000072 20,999,999.69 100.00% 7/15/2025 5906251 0.00000036 20,999,999.84 100.00% 1/19/2026 6125001 0.00000018 20,999,999.92 100.00% 7/27/2026 6343751 0.00000009 20,999,999.96 100.00% 1/31/2027 6562501 0.00000004 20,999,999.98 100.00% 8/7/2027 6781251 0.00000002 20,999,999.99 100.00% 2/11/2028 7000001 0.00000001 21,000,000.00 100.00% 8/18/2028 7218751 0.00000001 21,000,000.00 100.00% 2/22/2029 7437501 0.00000000 21,000,000.00 100.00% 8/29/2029 7656251 0.00000000 21,000,000.00 100.00%
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Payment processor acceptance is probably much more important than merchant acceptance because probably more merchants sinply let their payment processor worry about what foreign and crypto currencies to accept than run their own payment processing.
Yes, in my mind I was lumping payment processors in with merchants, but you make a good distinction. Payment processors are probably much easier to target because they make money on the transaction itself and should welcome additional coins as long as they are stable. But there are cases where a merchant is particularly large or a gaming site has a lot of activity where it may pay to target them specifically. I was mainly pointing out we should not ignore people who actually buy and sell real stuff. Without them we are expecting investers, traders and miners to create enough transaction volume to keep iXcoin's economy healthy. I can see some cryptos, like iXcoin, specializing as long term stores of value if they have low or zero inflation rates. However, miners still need to stay happy by getting enough transaction income. Without them we loose block chain security.
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IMHO, an alt-coin does not need be even honored by merchants. It only needs to be exchangeable with BTC and provide functionality that BTC cannot provide.
Having merchants accept an altcoin may not be an absolute requirement, but it's still a good goal to include in a strategic plan. Merchants increase transactions, which is going to be more and more important to insure miners stay interested once iXcoin has mined all its coins. Merchants are also like free advertising because they expand people's knowledge and acceptance of the altcoin. So I think we need to work on merchant acceptance at some point if they don't start using iXcoin on their own. But I like your priorities at this time of getting the client updated, website and forum up, etc. First things first.
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Ixcoin hash rate now up to 4.3 PETA Hashes/Sec.
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Purpose: To generate funds to help pay for core development work.
IXC: xm7RZfDQyiYqFQZ6Q9ZgtSkX9e8uBJ3SLY
6,600 IXC is on its way to your dev address. I've decided to send the rest of my bounty plus a little extra. Although I don't yet have a working updated Ixcoin client, you've done so much with the website, forum and promotion that it is worth it. Plus we need to keep things moving forward. I've now paid my whole bounty of 10,000 IXC, plus 100 IXC extra. I hope to get the new client soon. Thanks for your effort!
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I would continue to post on bitcointalk, but I think it's a great idea to have an iXcoin forum too. It allows the iXcoin enthusiasts and discussions to be focused in one place. It should make for faster progress.
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Purpose: To generate funds to help pay for core development work.
IXC: xm7RZfDQyiYqFQZ6Q9ZgtSkX9e8uBJ3SLY
3,500 IXC is incoming now. I'm sending it to keep the momentum going on your development. The rest of my 10,000 IXC bounty will be sent when the client is fully tested and a compiled version is released. Keep up the amazing work. Ixcoin has needed a promoter/developer like you from the beginning. Thanks!
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Ixcoin hash rate now up to 3.3 PETA Hashes/Sec, and the price continues to rise. The sleeping giant is waking up!!!
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Only one connection? That seems very bad for Ixcoin, it should be able to get its full 8 even if you dont have an incoming port open...
-MarkM-
Yeah... I was scratching my head on that one too. I also had to manually set the add node since the seeds in the code weren't available! Talk about neglect!!! If folks want to make money in this, they've got to pay their dues. We need permanent nodes!!! Have you had any luck increasing the connection count? Do you have the cloud nodes running yet? Man... I really hate this community! I requested a couple days ago for some funds so we can get some permanent node up in the network! Absolutely no response. My patience is wearing very thin and I am going to have to take over all development and use my own funds for it! You should also ask for persistant miners to post their node IP's. Then we can add them to our config file. Judging by the hash rate of ixcoin there must be a number of permanent nodes already out there. You may not even need the droplets, although it certainly doesn't hurt since you have better control over them.
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Difficulty is insane and therefore almost no blocks are being generated or transfers processed.
Not true. A block is generated every 10 minutes. Transactions are processing normally.
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I0coin has a lot of potential. I0coin has a 75 second block time vs 10 minutes for Ixcoin. I0coin is about 95% mined vs Ixcoin at 80%. Both have a coin cap of 21 million. I0coin is behind Ixcoin for a few reasons. With its faster block rate its block chain grew so fast and took up so much memory that all but a few miners stopped, and it was dropped from exchanges. Now those problems are fixed so it is gaining momentum again. Its hash rate has been steadily increasing since the new client was released.
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Now we can watch it grow!!!
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Yes, I0coin definitely needs a website!
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Thanks for adding I0coin!
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(1)The merge miners obviously are selling when they can.
(2)If this coin doesn't get updated pronto, then it'll continue to get very little respect.
(3)Yes, it is obvious that there isn't enough coin to go around.
(4)The coin needs to be on a bigger exchange to grow. Vircurex and Cryptsy are small exchanges. Someone may need to pay some bounty to get it on an big exchange like BTC-E or MCXNow.
I'm still in for the 10,000 IXC bounty I offered on page 1, as long as we don't change the 21 million coin cap. I don't think that should ever change. It's the same cap as bitcoin, which is doing just fine. "there isn't enough coin to go around" is actually good if we want the price to rise. FrictionlessCoin, your effort is actually very much appreciated. It's been over two years since someone stepped up to do an update. But, when someone starts talking about protocol changes it makes people nervous. Many have been mining the coin for over 2.5 years and the wrong change could spell disaster. I think the main reason Ixcoin has lagged on volume and price is that no client updates have occurred in so long people wonder about its future, and of course no services yet to speak of, but those will come with time. I don't think it has lagged because of the cap or even the block reward ending in 2015. I'm not as against extending the block reward beyond 2015 (by lowering it), but I'm ok with leaving it alone. No one really knows what will happen to the hash rate once the block reward stops, but I'm optimistic it will remain strong. Everyone who has mined for years has an incentive to keep mining, and I don't see enough dumping to convince me the miners are offloading that much. We're also already seeing some transaction fees similar to bitcoin, so miners appear to be preparing for no block reward. What Ixcoin has always had going for it is a massive hash rate. It's always been in 3rd or 4th place even after 100+ alt-coins came on the scene. That's nothing to sneeze at. It also has a very steady 10,000 transactions per month ( cryptometer.org ). That's well above the transactions on the two exchanges, so someone is using it for more than just speculation.
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One more try for a cleaner I0coin table...
Block No. of Date Block# Reward Coins % Mined 8/16/2011 1 48 48 0.00% 2/20/2012 218751 24 10,500,024 50.00% 8/26/2012 437501 12 15,750,012 75.00% 3/2/2013 656251 6 18,375,006 87.50% 9/6/2013 875001 3 19,687,503 93.75% 3/14/2014 1093751 1.5 20,343,752 96.88% 9/18/2014 1312501 0.75 20,671,876 98.44% 3/25/2015 1531251 0.375 20,835,938 99.22% 9/29/2015 1750001 0.1875 20,917,969 99.61% 4/5/2016 1968751 0.09375 20,958,984 99.80% 10/10/2016 2187501 0.046875 20,979,492 99.90% 4/16/2017 2406251 0.023438 20,989,746 99.95% 10/21/2017 2625001 0.011719 20,994,873 99.98%
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Please consider adding I0coin.
With over 20 million coins mined and $.00706 per coin it has a market cap of $141,200 which puts it in a respectable 18th position on your list.
I will add if you can find links with real time quantity info. I didn't find a link for I0coin, but here is the schedule. Can you use this? It's a very easy coin to calculate because about 95% is already mined. So the total quantity of coins is not changing much. I0coin initial reward: 48 coins per block (cut in half every 218,750 blocks) Maximum I0coin that will be mined is 21,000,000. Block No. of Date Block# Reward Coins % Mined 8/16/2011 1 48 48 0.00% 2/20/2012 218751 24 10,500,024 50.00% 8/26/2012 437501 12 15,750,012 75.00% 3/2/2013 656251 6 18,375,006 87.50% 9/6/2013 875001 3 19,687,503 93.75% 3/14/2014 1093751 1.5 20,343,752 96.88% 9/18/2014 1312501 0.75 20,671,876 98.44% 3/25/2015 1531251 0.375 20,835,938 99.22% 9/29/2015 1750001 0.1875 20,917,969 99.61% 4/5/2016 1968751 0.09375 20,958,984 99.80% 10/10/2016 2187501 0.046875 20,979,492 99.90% 4/16/2017 2406251 0.023438 20,989,746 99.95% 10/21/2017 2625001 0.011719 20,994,873 99.98%
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Primecoin only started in July. Most coins have a quick run up in price for the first few months because of low supply, then a sustained drop kicks in for 3-6 months until the price reaches a sustainable level. It's probably on its infancy down slide now, whereas most other alt-coins have already matured past that stage.
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Both are great alt-coins! Some pump is ok as long as it's not for a short term dump. We should have a goal of long term support and stability.
Goals should be: 1. A development TEAM... not just one dev (or none) 2. Getting some sites (stores, gaming, casinos, etc.) to use these coins 3. Getting the coins on more exchanges 4. Improving their home pages
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does PPC make a better long term storage of wealth than BTC?
No, because in the long term the price of any alt coin is always going down vs Bitcoin. No matter how good the alt coin is. I can't imagine Bitcoin being the only crypto in the long term. Many alt coins be successful. Eventually some will equal or surpase Bitcoin.
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