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461  Economy / Goods / Re: [BTC] $1,183.20 Amazon Balance [BTC] [MINERS CAN BUY EQP!] on: June 02, 2012, 02:01:51 AM
I was fine using escrow I was fine going first to Chaang and other members of his type. The next issue was fraud and that sent them gallivanting.
462  Economy / Goods / Re: [BTC] $1,183.20 Amazon Balance [BTC] [MINERS CAN BUY EQP!] on: June 02, 2012, 01:27:07 AM
But if you're just going to manufacture fake evidence by telling someone that they can censor something and then call them out for that censorship, that's not cool.

In all seriousness what he provided was not what was asked for at all, I can't even read any of his ID on one of my monitors because the backlight is slightly dim (normally unnoticable).
It's exactly what was asked for. Cut it out with this bullshit.

An ID that doesn't show the name on the Amazon account proves absolutely nothing, either way. If you want to ask for evidence, ask for something with that name on it.

Amen. Thank you sir, after reading this I was relieved that this forum is not full of jackasses. I swear what I encountered so far was very similar to hazing. Thank you once again.
463  Economy / Goods / Re: [BTC] $1,183.20 Amazon Balance [BTC] [MINERS CAN BUY EQP!] on: June 02, 2012, 12:50:04 AM
A piece of paper with barcode and scan. I'm sorry but I can't help it. When there are people with terrible arguments I just have to rebut. Why are we even still on this thread. Someone riddle me? I wanna know.  Roll Eyes

I've got plenty of pieces of papers with barcodes on them, heck as you seen it takes 30 seconds to shop an ID, if I spent an hour I could shop an ID properly, print it out and take a low light photo like you did and it would look unbeliveably convincing. I'm not saying you did this, but sorry your poor excuse for an ID doesn't cut it. A better photo would definitely help

I'm replying to everyone at the moment. Just because I quote you everything I say isn't direct at your quote. I'm just to lazy to quote the others. I'm unconcerned I've pulled this off market. I intend to stay and prove my legitimacy while the others fall off as the scammers they are. Then we will see who laughs last.

Can you quote me the person who accused you of scamming? we all think you are suspicious, nobody thinks you're a scammer yet as there is no proof. Nothing wrong with looking suspicious, almost everyone on the forums gets that at some point

Lulwat wrote boldly in red SCAMMER ALERT. The point of the matter is I don't want my ID circulating on the web. I could snap a picture of the whole thing, I dont want to. If I were a scammer, yea, I could just photoshop some shit as well. I don't want my real ID on the web and I'm not interested in posting fake shit.
464  Economy / Goods / Re: [BTC] $1,183.20 Amazon Balance [BTC] [MINERS CAN BUY EQP!] on: June 02, 2012, 12:42:35 AM
Your picture is of Boxxy, a retarded 14 yo internet child. I am not fucking newdude jackass, I don't even know who that is. I am not done with the forum I am done selling to you idiots. Good day. And you look very hot Blazr. I'd tap but you can forget the loan.

Boxxy is now 20 years old & she doesn't suffer from any form of retardation. I never said you were newdude, your just a pretty sketchy guy at the moment, if you hang around enough people will get to know you and trust you.

I'm sorry but the ID you provided doesn't cut it at all.

I'm replying to everyone at the moment. Just because I quote you everything I say isn't direct at your quote. I'm just to lazy to quote the others. I'm unconcerned I've pulled this off market. I intend to stay and prove my legitimacy while the others fall off as the scammers they are. Then we will see who laughs last.
465  Economy / Goods / Re: [BTC] $1,183.20 Amazon Balance [BTC] [MINERS CAN BUY EQP!] on: June 02, 2012, 12:38:11 AM
I'm trying to read the back of your ID. Is it in latin alphabet?, is it backwards or upside down or something? I genuinely cannot see what it says, I'd have to open it in photoshop to be able to read it.

The paper/ID is upside down. I can read it without issues, here:

First line: Identification Purposes Only
Second line: NOT a Driver's License



Yeah I can see it now, my main monitors backlight is pretty dim now, moved it onto another screen, its still pretty hard to read, but legible.

As mentioned, that could be anyone's ID and may not even be an ID. Could easily be just a printed page.

A piece of paper with barcode and scan. I'm sorry but I can't help it. When there are people with terrible arguments I just have to rebut. Why are we even still on this thread. Someone riddle me? I wanna know.  Roll Eyes
466  Economy / Goods / Re: [BTC] $1,183.20 Amazon Balance [BTC] [MINERS CAN BUY EQP!] on: June 02, 2012, 12:35:07 AM
I'm trying to read the back of your ID. Is it in latin alphabet? is it backwards or upside down or something? I genuinely cannot see what it says, my monitors backlight is pretty dim, I'd have to open it in photoshop to be able to read it.

Your picture is of Boxxy, a retarded 14 yo internet child. I am not fucking newdude jackass, I don't even know who that is. I am not done with the forum I am done selling to you idiots. Good day. And you look very hot Blazr. I'd tap but you can forget the loan.
467  Economy / Goods / Re: [BTC] $1,183.20 Amazon Balance [BTC] [MINERS CAN BUY EQP!] on: June 02, 2012, 12:07:04 AM
Angry scammer is mad at his failure.

IMO, it looks like you got it the wrong way around. Seems like you're the angry one.

You have to realize that scammers have come here like newdude who sold tens of thousands of amazon GC over a period of months before it was discovered, and then once it was discovered you can bet he came back at least once under a different username and repeated the scam. Amazon GC have been a hot product for scammers on the forums for some reason. You signed up with a brand new account and want to do thousands of dollars worth of transactions, how do we know you're not newdude moving onto his next username?

If you want to gain trust, the best way is to stick around and do smaller transactions ($5-$20 transactions) for a couple of months and then keep moving up to bigger ones as forum members begin to know and trust you. Giving out loans, or taking out loans and repaying isn't going to make us trust you more.

The main reason you put my scammer meter off the chart last night is because I was just browsing the forum, and kept seeing you want to do thousands of dollars worth of transactions, in loans, in AGC (nice acronym BTW) and what I thought was an enquiry into a mining investment (you made a post that sounded like you wanted to talk business over Skype with that dude, it could've been to get info on mining, but still could be to get investments). AGC, loans and mining investments are all big targets for scammers.

He was asking for investments not looking for them. I wanted to ask him about things such as how many BTC does he mine with his rig, how long does it take, how much does it cost etc. Because at that time I was debating whether I would buy a rig myself. You read the post wrong and you hopped the gun. As I stated before I am done. I'm upset with lolwut because he is a jackass who is angry I didn't go first to him so he flames on my thread after I followed his orders "cover everything but the name". I don't care anymore the account is off the market. So there is no longer need to worry, goodbye and good riddance.

The back of the ID you guys don't fucking read or look thoroughly:



Terrible lighting but still legible.
468  Economy / Goods / Re: [BTC] $1,183.20 Amazon Balance [BTC] [MINERS CAN BUY EQP!] on: June 01, 2012, 11:58:14 PM
And so it begins:



For those with no eyes:

[3:42:00 PM] lolwut: you can remove all private information, im just concerned about the name
[3:42:21 PM] lolwut: out a sticky note over everyone on your drivers license but the name
[3:42:25 PM] lolwut: put*
[3:42:32 PM] lolwut: everything*
[3:42:35 PM] lolwut: cant type today

"PUT A STICKY NOTE OVER EVERYTHING ON YOUR LICENSE BUT THE NAME"

Followed the orders you gave, bub. Balls in your court.
469  Economy / Goods / Re: [BTC] $1,183.20 Amazon Balance [BTC] [MINERS CAN BUY EQP!] on: June 01, 2012, 11:53:59 PM
[...]

If you want a second opinion, PM me a picture of your ID, taken in sufficient lighting, and I'd be glad to provide one.

I'll upload all pictures I sent him. But I am no longer entertaining this thread. You guys have proven to be nothing but hostile monkeys and I am not interested in your business.

https://i.imgur.com/m9Z5k.png

https://i.imgur.com/wPDv3.png

https://i.imgur.com/OBVDz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/7rILW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XwGO5.jpg

You think i'm stupid enough to send you my ID and email associated with the account? "Hello amazon my accounts been compromised I have the name and some ID to prove it's mine." I know all the schemes in the book for all you sneaky little rats.

470  Economy / Goods / Re: [BTC] $1,183.20 Amazon Balance [BTC] [MINERS CAN BUY EQP!] on: June 01, 2012, 11:42:57 PM
****SCAMMER ALERT****

I spent a pretty lengthy amount of time on skype trying to get this guy to just show some type of valid proof, so I could feel better about the transaction.

Unfortunately, he sent me a series of very dark pictures of his "ID" that were completely covered in paper and only showed a first name "Afor" and not "Percy"
His excuse was "It's only 4PM here, I don't turn on the lights until the evening"
He then sent me a screenshot from a past order (using a giftcard, so the billing info doesn't matter) that showed the same first name "Afor".


Due to Percy/Afor's inability to just fucking show proof he owns the account, I would STRONGLY advise against sending him any form of payment until you have received your goods. I thought I had a decent enough reputation here for him to send first, but apparently not.


I strongly advise you stay away from this guy. It seems like he's hiding something (not just his identity).

I have the skype logs to back all this up, if requested.

Very nice, you haven't heard of an "american name". Afor is my legal name but I go by Percy because my parents believed that living in america it was proper to have an "american name". You're an idiot, the picture I sent you is a picture of a purchase made in Febuary with billing info that matches my ID name. Yes, I covered my ID in paper because you said all you wanted was the name. So who is the scammer? This user is mad because I did not go first to him and get scammed, so now he wants to come here and try to ruin business. Get the hell off the thread.
"His excuse was "It's only 4PM here, I don't turn on the lights until the evening"" He asked why it was dark that was my excuse.
Oh and I don't turn my lights on during the day, it's a waste of energy. Bite me.


Convo:

[5/31/2012 7:44:55 PM] P: Hell
[5/31/2012 7:44:58 PM] P: Hello
[5/31/2012 7:46:40 PM] P: Unless you have the BTC ready to go now, I may not be able to help you. As someone has offered to pay half already for me to reserve it
[5/31/2012 7:47:00 PM] lolwut: ok, thats fine, thanks anyway
[5/31/2012 7:48:28 PM] P: You're withdrawing your bid?
[5/31/2012 7:52:06 PM] lolwut:  dont have all the coins right now, so if thats a deal breaker, then give it to the other guy
[5/31/2012 7:52:26 PM] P: Yea sorry it's first come first serve.
[5/31/2012 7:52:34 PM] P: I'll let you know if he falls through.
[5/31/2012 7:52:41 PM] lolwut: ok
[2:35:16 AM] P: Other offer fell through so as of now it's yours.
[11:05:09 AM] lolwut: ok
[11:05:14 AM] lolwut: so how will this work
[11:05:28 AM] lolwut: you buy first? i make sure there are not legal problems, then i pay you?
[2:10:23 PM] P: Legal problems?
[2:10:32 PM] P: I already provided proof the account was mine
[3:34:02 PM] lolwut: Ok, where did you do that?
[3:34:09 PM] lolwut: i must have missed it
[3:34:15 PM] lolwut: can you link me to the post
[3:34:15 PM] P: Check my thread I'll link to the page
[3:35:24 PM] P: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=84439.0
[3:35:35 PM] P: No AGC is accepted as exchangeable currency on a wide arrange of forums, you can sell RSGP,PP,AP,WU,MB,WMZ in exchange for Amazon Giftcards. I'm not really upset about afterall in exchanges there is always a loss/fee to exchange. You will see with the transactions posted below that I've bought everything I wanted from amazon, it was a miscalculation in spending. I thought there would be some purpose to the funds but once I had them I couldn't find anything I really needed from the site.  While amazon seems like a huge market there are some things just not available there that I need, so I am selling the balance which is now no longer very useful. $4,000+ On amazon within this year alone:

https://i.imgur.com/oESVJ.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/nx5BT.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/Vemf8.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/ti78D.png?1

It seems that the issue you guys are having is the low price? I would be happy to raise it if that satisfies you, look through my posts I am eager to get BTC because I have some investment plans I am looking into. ALSO THE ACCOUNT IS NOT STOLEN, I do not know where you got that idea from. How many random people have over $4,000 in amazon GC's laying around on their account? Let's not be preposterous please, I understand caution but let's execute some rationality with it. Last purchase I made was in April (Kindle App), if the account was stolen don't you think they would have gotten it back by now especially with $1,000 sitting on it.
[3:36:05 PM] P: Chaang: explaining why you had so much of this and why you no longer wanted it. you have now done that in this thread. without doing that, i highly doubt anyone would have traded with you.

there have been a large number of scams with people with new accounts.

when you did not respond to the PM and then made a new thread red flags went up. do not take it personally.
[3:36:10 PM] P: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=84439.20
[3:36:42 PM] lolwut: i see that, but that still does not prove you own the account. I'm not trying to be an asshole here, just dont need any trouble from this transaction.
[3:37:10 PM] P: Then I honestly can't help you. If you think the account is stolen you shouldn't be doing this trade in the first place
[3:37:19 PM] P: The account is mine the balance is rightfully owned
[3:37:48 PM] lolwut: I've been doing business on the forum for a while, I have a perfect reputation.
[3:37:55 PM] lolwut: I would like to do the deal because its a great price
[3:38:06 PM] lolwut: Can't blame me for wanting to be safe.
[3:38:27 PM] lolwut: I can send payment once the items are received, I think that is fair.
[3:38:43 PM] P: You're not trusted enough to do that.
[3:39:29 PM] lolwut: Ok. I appreciate you reaching out to me. I wish you the best of luck Smiley
[3:40:01 PM] lolwut: the only other way i'd consider it is if you can show proof of ownership like an ID or a utility bill with your name on it
[3:40:06 PM] lolwut: nothing from the internet
[3:40:12 PM] P: Ok, if you are not purchasing I am going to go ahead and remove you from my skype/ Just to provide more room for others.
[3:41:10 PM] lolwut: can you produce some form of ID?
[3:41:20 PM] P: As in?
[3:41:29 PM] lolwut: [6/1/12 3:39:31 PM] Brute: Ok. I appreciate you reaching out to me. I wish you the best of luck Smiley
[6/1/12 3:40:02 PM] Brute: the only other way i'd consider it is if you can show proof of ownership like an ID or a utility bill with your name on it
[6/1/12 3:40:08 PM] Brute: nothing from the internet
[3:41:59 PM] P: I'm not interested in giving my address over the internet or my ID card. I know these things can be used for ill purposes and would rather not expose them to untrusted sources
[3:42:00 PM] lolwut: you can remove all private information, im just concerned about the name
[3:42:21 PM] lolwut: out a sticky note over everyone on your drivers license but the name
[3:42:25 PM] lolwut: put*
[3:42:32 PM] lolwut: everything*
[3:42:35 PM] lolwut: cant type today

[3:43:23 PM] P: Give me a minute, that's not a problem
[3:54:23 PM] P: it's not coming out well
[4:01:28 PM] P: The picture takes and it's obviously my id but the writing is small and the webcam quality is assinine
[4:17:10 PM] lolwut: camera phone?
[4:17:13 PM] lolwut: something?
[4:18:10 PM] P: the camera on my phone is even worse the problem is the id writing is too small and the film screen over it makes the picture sheen which makes the name blurry
[4:18:34 PM] *** P sent Snapshot_20120601_1.JPG ***
[4:18:49 PM] *** P sent Snapshot_20120601.JPG ***
[4:19:02 PM] P: See what I mean?
[4:19:24 PM] lolwut: looks real dark
[4:20:04 PM] P: 4 pm here, I don't turn on my lights during the day
[4:20:58 PM] lolwut: so turn them on to take the picture and then turn them off?
[4:21:10 PM] P: what im currently doing
[4:24:35 PM] *** P sent Snapshot_20120601_1.JPG ***
[4:25:12 PM] lolwut: i dont even know what that says
[4:25:20 PM] P: Yeah wait
[4:25:25 PM] P: I made orders
[4:25:30 PM] P: from earlier this year
[4:25:36 PM] P: I'll show you the card on the order
[4:25:40 PM] P: as well as the name
[4:25:49 PM] lolwut: you dont have to cover the entire thing in
[4:25:52 PM] lolwut: paper
[4:25:53 PM] lolwut: lol
[4:25:56 PM] P: If you still don't believe it's mine then I don't know
[4:26:33 PM] P: It has two images of me and my DOB,Sex, Eyes, and height
[4:26:39 PM] P: as well as issue date and state
[4:26:48 PM] P: So yes, I do have to cover that up
[4:26:52 PM] lolwut: so far you havent shown me anything. you said your name is percy, but that ID doenst say percy
[4:27:10 PM] lolwut: looks like AFOR
[4:27:12 PM] lolwut: or ALOR
[4:27:13 PM] lolwut: or something
[4:27:53 PM] P: It's Afor, it's my legal name. Percy is my nickname or "american name"
[4:28:28 PM] lolwut: well that doesnt help your case any. Doesnt amazon require a legal name?
[4:28:41 PM] lolwut: im just looking for something to match up here
[4:28:46 PM] P: No
[4:28:53 PM] P: The name on the amazon is changeable
[4:29:02 PM] P: I can make it shitbricks if I wanted
[4:29:23 PM] P: The name on the card and billing address needs to match up with the name on your billing statement
[4:29:34 PM] P: But other than that Percy is my account name
[4:29:41 PM] P: Like you can name a kindle etc.
[4:37:05 PM] *** P sent AGC.PNG ***
[4:39:30 PM] *** P sent AGC2.PNG ***
[4:39:39 PM] P: I think that's thorough proof of ownership
[7:25:06 PM] lolwut: sorry, send again
[7:25:08 PM] lolwut: i was eating dinner
[7:26:09 PM] *** P sent AGC.PNG ***
[7:26:15 PM] *** P sent AGC2.PNG ***
[7:27:37 PM] lolwut: yeah I'm sorry. All youre showing me is stuff from the amazon account, anyone with access to the account could have that. i wish you the best of luck
[7:28:43 PM] P: You see the name on the billing address is in accordance with my ID
[7:29:06 PM] P: Order date: Feburary

Angry scammer is mad at his failure.
471  Economy / Goods / Re: [BTC] $1,183.20 Amazon Balance [BTC] [MINERS CAN BUY EQP!] on: June 01, 2012, 09:07:26 PM
ive never had problems with anybody else. he's also pushing amazon. i bet newdude.

What are you saying? Looking at the way you type is a turn off in and of itself. Get off my thread.
472  Economy / Goods / Re: [BTC] $1,183.20 Amazon Balance [BTC] [MINERS CAN BUY EQP!] on: June 01, 2012, 08:02:25 PM
why not for me?

You're not trusted to me.
473  Economy / Lending / Re: Newbie GIVING out Loans Must See on: June 01, 2012, 06:19:13 PM
Hm, let me say it another words, when you give loans, your are trusting some one, but he doesnt have to trust you, and when you give money it doesnt prove anything.
Trading btc to LR could mean something, but you`ll have to do it on regular basis and with big sums, and again, if you send trust full member LR and he pays you BTC , this doesn't prove anything, because you had no chance to do it wrong way)

Shadow make a good point here. There is no way to scam people by giving out loans (unless you promise to give a loan and don't do it, which is not that significant). You would gain way more trust by taking out loans and repaying them.

Yes but no one wants to give me loans. So let me explain the logic I had while offering this. I am first buying Bitcoins so I can familiarize myself with the market. Traders will leave me some rep.

I will be giving out loans primarily for some more familiarity and so people know that I am not just looking to take and run as I have contributed beyond means of my own personal gain. Then once I have established myself with trusted buyers and sellers, I can then go about my business throughout the forum, hopefully without all the crap I've been getting. If people ask where my reputation is, I will be able to say I have already handled XXX amount of money on the forum. If people don't think this is good I may open an official exchange thread. The only problem is that people will come there and slander me on no basis other then the fact that I am new. So I am trying to start somewhere.
474  Economy / Goods / Re: [BTC] $1,183.20 Amazon Balance [BTC] [MINERS CAN BUY EQP!] on: June 01, 2012, 06:13:58 PM
i would be interested in some stuff on amazon. will you ship first?

Not to you, sorry.
475  Economy / Goods / Re: [BTC] $1,183.20 Amazon Balance [BTC] [MINERS CAN BUY EQP!] on: June 01, 2012, 06:13:19 PM
There are no red flags on my account.
476  Economy / Goods / Re: [BTC] $1,183.20 Amazon Balance [BTC] [MINERS CAN BUY EQP!] on: June 01, 2012, 08:32:26 AM
Still looking to sell this, all offers were unresponsive. Don't contact me and waste time if you are not buying, thanks.
477  Economy / Goods / Re: Looking to turn amazon gift card balance into BTC on: June 01, 2012, 08:31:35 AM
OK, I was going to wait until this thread closed before bumping, but since he already got 3 offers...

New rate is 5.9 $ to 1 BTC.

I find it weird that there have been no attacks on this thread. The logic of this forum.  Roll Eyes
478  Economy / Lending / Re: Newbie GIVING out Loans Must See on: June 01, 2012, 07:50:52 AM
How does given out loans proof your trustworthiness?

*Prove
Is that a serious question? Doing exchanges, therefore increasing your trades, hence increasing your familiarity with money sensitive transactions. Think about what you're asking before you ask it. I'm not just giving out loans I am also buying BTC.
479  Economy / Lending / Re: Newbie GIVING out Loans Must See on: June 01, 2012, 05:44:12 AM
I am first looking to exchange LR to BTC. Then I want to lend BTC for a weekly/bi-weekly return. Just to develop some trust.
480  Economy / Lending / Newbie GIVING out Loans Must See on: June 01, 2012, 04:21:06 AM
OK because of a lot of innuendo and out-uendo. I have decided to give out loans to prove I am legitimate to some degree. I understand noobies have a bad rapp, so I am trying to do some justice.

But there are initial steps that need to be taken, first I need to transfer my LR to BTC, I know you guys are weary about paypal so that's right I am using LR. Secondly since you guys like reaching out I am going to need some help. I need you guys to direct me to trusted sites/people to loan BTC to for good returns, as I am a newbie my eyes may not be able to identify a scam that you guys with months of experience can. Last but not least I need to know where I can purchase these BTCs for LR? Trusted people/sites? Looking for an instant transaction as both payments are irreversible.

Ok I am breaking the trend, I am not asking I am now giving. So please show some love and let me know below so I can start lending:

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