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I'm looking for sha-256 whitecoin multipool, any advice pls?
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Empty chat room  |
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yeah this is kind of scary even if I'm really a BC Believer...  Indeed, I wish there were more pools... I think that miners realized that payouts from blackcoinpool.com aren't really as great (in BCs) so they just dumped their "mined" coins to get more BTCs  |
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Calm down.. USD/BTC:  And BlackCoin Pool (right now):  |
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Guys, this is becoming tiresome  Nobody (almost  ) knows what PB is doing or using for power source, so all those models could simply be way off track. Some of you can't seem to even acknowledge the very wide electricity producing methods and choices out there, for gods sake! It doesn't take that much to power to keep a couple hundreds TH/s running - it's all to feasible with small scale solar or wind solutions, not to mention natural occurring geothermal advantages some locations have and ... to say the least, bio-gas! Either from pig shit or any other form of farm-related waste that can be treated and used to mass produce electricity. Have wondered why a guy with the handle "Biomech" seems to have some insights?? Any clues from the fact PB seems to be rather fond of pigs?? PB could actually be saving a lot of real dollars (Canadian) on waste treatment and disposal - and even making some extra money by undertaking it's neighborhoods waste in! And has they do, they get even more power capability, hence sustaining the growth and the business model.  Making the investment in Bitcoin mining hardware and using dirt cheap power to run them might just well be another revenue stream (and maybe not even the most profitable one) Please don't troll about profitability any longer - you simply don't have the facts. If you don't believe it, don't use it. Plain and simple. But don't come around pretending to be a knight in a crusade against evil-doers, please. Nobody here is innocent and dumb enough for it. The discussion is healthy only as long as it remains relevant - some of it isn't, already. Cheers Exactly.. respect man!  After some research I can see that there is more behind the scenes. PBmining just want to protect their business (and themselves) for now.. so people should respect that / or move on. |
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very nice  Btw. I'm experimenting with betarigs.com and blackcoinpool right now.. so far so good what tool is that? That's poloniex exchange in the "Night mode" https://www.poloniex.com/exchange |
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 very nice Btw. I'm experimenting with betarigs.com and blackcoinpool right now.. so far so good |
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what do you think about bitcoin prices ? currently 394$ and still dropping?
is it a btc buy time and re-invest to ghs in these cheap prices??
or the bitcoing era is over?
It's completely over. They will never be worth anything again. Nobody will adopt it, as there is no central authority to oversee and steal confiscate devalue regulate it. Therefore I think it best if you send all of your BTC to this address, lest they take it from you by force. 15KU7NmtLdu49yu7ZCf5SamuSH8C9A8U8j You, sir are troll. Anarchy is not chaos? I LOL'd though how intellectual a response!? personal abuse does in no way back up your arguments. in fact it makes you look like a dunce, who didn't actually understand what the poster was alluding to. Look at previous posts about "flying pigs" and shit, that's normal? i don't care about your trolling mate, this thread is for users of PBMining, please take your teenage angst elsewhere. You are right, we should talk about PBmining so what about new payout system? 0.01 BTC or customizable threshold like on the pools would be nice, wouldn't it? |
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what do you think about bitcoin prices ? currently 394$ and still dropping?
is it a btc buy time and re-invest to ghs in these cheap prices??
or the bitcoing era is over?
It's completely over. They will never be worth anything again. Nobody will adopt it, as there is no central authority to oversee and steal confiscate devalue regulate it. Therefore I think it best if you send all of your BTC to this address, lest they take it from you by force. 15KU7NmtLdu49yu7ZCf5SamuSH8C9A8U8j You, sir are troll. Anarchy is not chaos? I LOL'd though how intellectual a response!? personal abuse does in no way back up your arguments. in fact it makes you look like a dunce, who didn't actually understand what the poster was alluding to. Look at previous posts about "flying pigs" and shit, that's normal? |
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If it were a scam, you wouldn't make an ROI. If they didn't pay you every sunday like clockwork, you would not make an ROI. If you don't break even, but still got paid, then you made an ROI.
Except, in a ponzi there's always a bunch making a profit. That doesn't make it less of a scam. Honestly, the subject has been debated to death. Anyone still opting to invest only has themselves to blame when the payouts stop coming. I get it, you're pulling revenue from a different source. If you spam "pbmining is great" enough times, you'll get more signups through your referral. That still doesn't help the other people who genuinely believe it's a good investment. Your point is taken. I do however think they're legit. I chose the avenue of referrals because I enjoy the game, partially, and because I posted the link in my sig on a total whim and it paid off  Truth is since I started actively promoting it I've done worse than when it was just sitting there. Mainly, though, I compared the cost to existing hardware, vaporware scams, er, I mean, Pre orders! yeah, that's it. Pre orders. And I came down to basically two choices at the time. There are a few more now, fortunately, but then there were basically two choices. pbmining and Bitmain. Bitmain is hardware that I can put my fingers on and play with. But it don't come with a decent PSU and it sucks electricity like a politician sucks life. Still the best game in town... but when you factor in electricity costs, even as low as Idaho rates are, and the expense of a PSU, plus the possible down time from power outage, children fingerpoking, random acts of vengeful gods... it worked out better to go with pbmining. Not by much, pretty close to even in fact, but slightly better using those same calculators that the trolls love to (ab)use. There is a school of thought that holds that mining is never as profitable as buying and holding. I think people like this suffer from tunnel vision, or have a very narrow view of profit. Or just no patience. Bitcoin is at a nexus right now. It will either die very quickly, or it will soar in value. I can't really see any other outcomes. Also, to all you buy and hold people? Without us who mine, there would be nothing for you to buy and hold. Mining gold is not as profitable as trading gold. But without the miner, the trader has empty pockets. We may not be the most financially savvy people in the world, or perhaps the compulsion to hunt treasure is a disease... but we produce what others want because we want to produce it. Sometimes the adventure is worth a monetary loss. Other times it's just a fuckup, but nevertheless, without the miners there is no bitcoin/gold/silver/platinum/shiny rocks...  |
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what do you think about bitcoin prices ? currently 394$ and still dropping?
is it a btc buy time and re-invest to ghs in these cheap prices??
or the bitcoing era is over?
It's completely over. They will never be worth anything again. Nobody will adopt it, as there is no central authority to oversee and steal confiscate devalue regulate it. Therefore I think it best if you send all of your BTC to this address, lest they take it from you by force. 15KU7NmtLdu49yu7ZCf5SamuSH8C9A8U8j You, sir are troll. Anarchy is not chaos? I LOL'd though |
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Well, everyone jump on the hater wagon now.......... If you don't like it or don't believe it'll return, don't buy gh/s, it's pretty simple! Always the best option is to buy BTC flat out and hold onto it but that's no where near as fun as mining is. I've made really good money mining and believe in PBmining!
Your answer is legitimate and I don't want to create a flame reply. I am very interested in PBMining, I already have 53 GHS with them (you can check on the global stats) and I was thinking about buying more GHS. The first purchase was a impulse purchase, I did not think about it a lot. Now I wanted to invest a little bit more and I was doing some calculations and I wanted to get the feedback of other piggies who have invested a lot. My question was: am I correct when I say that with the current PBMining price you will never ROI or am I missing something? In the first case, why people has massively invested in PBMining? Bad calculations or anything else? Thanks! I made a measurable ROI within fifteen minutes of paying my money. Due to referrals I broke even in three weeks. This is one of those things on this forum that drives me nucking futz. ROI is a very specific financial term and it does NOT coincide with breakeven or profit. It means Return ON Investment. Not Return OF investment. If it were a scam, you wouldn't make an ROI. If they didn't pay you every sunday like clockwork, you would not make an ROI. If you don't break even, but still got paid, then you made an ROI. I'm sure I'll get flamed, but I can guarantee you that if you walked into any other setting involving money management and started using ROI in the manner that it is on this forum, you'd either be yelled at, shunned, or a laugingstock. and since somebody always brings up the "language evolves" load of bovine excrement, it's only true in a general sense. ROI is NOT a general term. It's an accounting term, technical jargon. It doesn't evolve. It's definition is fixed. Short of the disciplines of accounting getting a complete linguistic overhaul, it's not going to change. ROI =/= breakeven or proft. </rant> On the subject at hand, I think you'll find the price is about the same as buying ants, when you factor in electricity, except that you'll eventually (much sooner than 5 years) have to either turn the ants off, or mine alts with them. As with all things Bitcoin, it's something of a gamble. It's one that has paid off handsomely for me, and I will continue to solicity referrals and buy GH's. There are too many customers for too long of a period for it to be a ponzi. I suspect they're being circumspect because it keeps people off their back, including the bastards that keep DDOSing every public pool. By maintaining the secrecy, they have less of a target painted on their backs. I don't know this to be true, but it's a good line of reasoning. If I were the one running this, I'd sell 2/3rd's of the actual hashpower I bought, allowing a fair amount of "slush" along with a profit. Would be sufficient to guarantee the returns as per the way PB pays out, and make a handsome amount for those who invested in the hardware as well. Great.. but I honestly think there is no hardware at all. Is it problem to show photos of some bills/hardware? no it isn't. That's why I don't think PBmining will last more than 6 months.. I wish I was wrong because I am customer too.. I hope I will able to buy more mining hardware (so far I have https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=491551.0;topicseen) and there are so many awesome ASICs on the market nowadays.. |
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This is why POTCOIN is so important to me as there is talk of funding going into research, and even though it isnt legal in the UK the fact that i could buy seeds,vapourisers etc etc and not have to worry about credit card details puts my mind at ease as i already have enough to worry about.
So get behind Potcoin lets change the future, spread the word, spread the love and last but not least,
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This is a total lost of around EUR 4,00€ per 10 GH/s contract !!!
In 5 years? And when Btc is 900$ in 2 year? True miners who bought their own (expensive) ASICs like me would understand that more and more hashrate is all what miner's hearth need. I personally believe in Bitcoin's bright future and enjoy reinvesting mined mBTCs to buy more GH/s.. if you are also a trader, some mBTCs every week to trade with is great, isn't it? I can't simply sit on my BTCs so for that purpose I created paper wallet.. |
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Great, but I still get following error when launching Potcoin-Qt.app "Potcoin-Qt quit unexpectedly..."Report: ... OS Version: Mac OS X 10.9.2 (13C64) Report Version: 11 Anonymous UUID: -------------------------- Sleep/Wake UUID: -------------------------- Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT) Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000 Application Specific Information: abort() called Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff91307866 __pthread_kill + 10 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff8e96c35c pthread_kill + 92 2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff92378b1a abort + 125 3 QtCore 0x0000000101622b99 0x101609000 + 105369 4 QtCore 0x00000001016231d1 QMessageLogger::fatal(char const*, ...) const + 161 5 QtGui 0x00000001011e85cd QGuiApplicationPrivate::createPlatformIntegration() + 4333 6 QtGui 0x00000001011e85eb QGuiApplicationPrivate::createEventDispatcher() + 27 7 QtCore 0x000000010181a7a8 QCoreApplication::init() + 104 8 QtCore 0x000000010181a717 QCoreApplication::QCoreApplication(QCoreApplicationPrivate&) + 39 9 QtGui 0x00000001011e650e QGuiApplication::QGuiApplication(QGuiApplicationPrivate&) + 14 10 QtWidgets 0x0000000100c13cee QApplication::QApplication(int&, char**, int) + 206 11 org.potcoin.Potcoin-Qt 0x0000000100008bf0 main + 80 12 org.potcoin.Potcoin-Qt 0x0000000100007ef4 start + 52 Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff91308662 kevent64 + 10 1 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff8debc43d _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 239 2 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff8debc152 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 52 Thread 2: 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff91307e6a __workq_kernreturn + 10 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff8e96cf08 _pthread_wqthread + 330 2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff8e96ffb9 start_wqthread + 13 Thread 3: 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff91307e6a __workq_kernreturn + 10 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff8e96cf08 _pthread_wqthread + 330 2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff8e96ffb9 start_wqthread + 13 Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit): rax: 0x0000000000000000 rbx: 0x00007fff791b6310 rcx: 0x00007fff5fbff158 rdx: 0x0000000000000000 rdi: 0x0000000000000707 rsi: 0x0000000000000006 rbp: 0x00007fff5fbff180 rsp: 0x00007fff5fbff158 r8: 0x0000000101f020c0 r9: 0x0000000000000000 r10: 0x0000000008000000 r11: 0x0000000000000206 r12: 0x00007fff5fbff448 r13: 0x00007fff5fbffc24 r14: 0x0000000000000006 r15: 0x00007fff5fbffd10 rip: 0x00007fff91307866 rfl: 0x0000000000000206 cr2: 0x0000000101624b50 Logical CPU: 0 Error Code: 0x02000148 Trap Number: 133 ... Model: MacBookPro4,1, BootROM MBP41.00C1.B03, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.4 GHz, 4 GB, SMC 1.27f3 ... It's quite strange because every single Bitcoin-forked wallet works just fine (Auroracoin-Qt, Blackcoin-Qt, Namecoin-Qt, Dogecoin-Qt...) Am I the only one with this issue?? |
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I wish I had some referrals too, but I hate spam/phishing/scamming in general so how should I get some? BTW. PB Mining still seems "too good to be true" to me but what should I say? Keep up great work!!! Merged mining (NMC,MZC..) and scrypt would be dream but I am so satisfied now that I'm afraid that one day I'll wake up and everything will be gone (I'm reinvesting every mBTC earned so far..) All we need is BTC/USD rising and everyone will be happy.. Another thing is BTC adoption in real world but that's another story..
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"And this little piggy went hashing!"#37
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do you guys really expect this company will last 5 years ?
Reasonably speaking a 1 year contract and a 5 year contract will pay out essentially the same thing. Hardware that's 1 year old at this point can no longer be run profitably due to its inefficient energy use compared to modern equipment, and suffice to say that the current equipment will be made obsolete before a terribly long time. This is true, you can't buy a 5 year contract and think you'll make the same profit for 5 years, it's not realistic. If they last even 1 year, and bitcoin price doesn't explode, crash, it'll have been a win for most of the investors. There is always the chance that Bitcoin will increase in value significantly, at which point your original hash rate could continue being significantly profitable. We wanted to go this route because 1 year contracts seemed "standard" and we wanted to raise the bar a little bit. We do realize that most profits are seen at the beginning, but to cut off profits after 1 year seems unnecessary. "increase in value significantly" ?  |
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You can try "exposing" us all you want, in fact I have said numerous times we welcome people to take us to scam accusations. It does not affect our guarantee to pay our customers for the entire 5 year contact term. We have a responsibility to do that and we will follow through with it.
Much of the bitcoin community works on trust and I respect your advisory that you have a need for confidentiality. i've put my trust in this operation, and if i get screwed over, i'll have nobody to blame but myself... somehow i don't think this will happen, and i took a good while of consideration before I started putting funds into this. i'm getting paid weekly and once it's broken even, i'll get some dust. that's all fine with me, regardless of the price of bitcoin. I enjoy mining both at home and using the cloud mining. I've said it before and i'll say it again, PBMining, what you are doing is a great effort, allowing us little people to keep hashing in small amounts, when the big buggers are ruining the prices by farming en-mass. All I can say is, at least THIS farm is split between us and not directly hashing for a few muppets who think it's clever to take a lions share and pretend that they are 'stock traders'. rant over. Great statement!! I wish more people can see the situation around Bitcoin this way Keep up great work pbmining! |
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minor problem...... forkpool has 92% of network hash......
LOL |
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