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201  Local / Markt / Re: groepsaankoop TechnoBit K1 en K16 miner - [STATUS] wachten op levering Avalon... on: September 08, 2013, 09:30:07 AM
Hmmz GP van ons of van marto zelf?

Ik geloof nooit dat marto zegt van; Ik lever je wel de miner hardware maar ik ga me eigen GP chips laten refunden..
Of alles of niets toch? qua refund.. Ik bedoel wat heb je aan een printplaat zonder chips?
202  Local / Markt / Re: groepsaankoop TechnoBit K1 en K16 miner - [STATUS] wachten op levering Avalon... on: September 07, 2013, 05:25:32 PM
Mooi!
203  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Official ASICMINER Block Erupter Europe topic|usb from 0.21 |blade 4.895 on: September 07, 2013, 04:01:18 PM
Hi everybody,
I am writing from the Netherlands and I ordered a couple of weeks ago two usb block erupters from asicminer-shop.de
I am satisfied with my purchase, however, I am very disappointed about the shipping costs, and even more about the comunication with the seller.

I didn't mind paying .45 BTC per miner (it was just before the price drop) but I do mind having paid .21 BTC (circa 20 EUR) for the shipping, since the envelope in which I received the miners clearly shows only 5,5 EUR shipping costs.
Then I tried to contact the asicminer-shop.de people and I haven't heard anythng from them.

I thought at first it was an honest mistake, and asked asicminer-shop.de if they could refund me the difference of the shipping costs via BTC, but given the silence which followed my email, I start being afraid that inflating the shipping costs might be their common practice. What are your experiences with this seller? Have you experienced the same?

Asicminer-shop.de, if you read this, my order was #574. I'd really appreciate if you could answer my email.

First shipment i got a while ago was with DHL/Selectvracht, last shipment i also got enveloppe with 5,50 euro stamp.
So yes i can confirm your story (NL).
204  Local / Markt / Re: groepsaankoop TechnoBit K1 en K16 miner - [STATUS] wachten op levering Avalon... on: September 07, 2013, 02:34:04 PM
1. Refund op chips
2. Refund op boards
3. Refund op Shipping
4. Wat is percentage die eraf gaat ivm fee en moeite
205  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 07, 2013, 07:49:05 AM
Warrants served at Labcoin HQ.  Five arrests made. This thing is over and I told you so!  Sell while you still can...    Cry

Do you mean like this Ytt?

hahahaha robocop?
206  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 06, 2013, 12:40:39 PM
Well, since everyone here loves their numbers, let me throw some of mine into the mix:

Labcoin's plan is to bring the following hashrate online:

6TH/s in Mid-September
44TH/s additional in Mid/Late-October (total of 50TH/s)


Source:


TLDR; Things are going as planned with no delays as of yet. Labcoin expects to hash at approx 6TH within 3-4 weeks and 50TH+ by mid to late October. Serial production run of chips will start early Sept. Pictures of chips, schematics and miners etc. will be posted as they become available. Website is undergoing redesign and will feature a real-time mining statistic as soon as the mining operation goes live.


So, let's see where these numbers take us! I am using the following assumption: 35% Difficulty Increase per Period. This is a high estimate, as even the most recent DI was ~32% and that was the highest in the past few months.

We can calculate the value of this hashrate by inputting the current daily value of a 1MH/s miner and extrapolating it out to 1TH/s. Then, we multiply that daily mining value times the number of days in that Difficulty period. At 35% increases, each Difficulty period will only be 9.1 days.



So, as you can see here (yes, the chart does go all the way past this to 2/12/16, but I don't feel like stitching two images together this morning), with a Difficulty Increase factor or 35%, 6TH/s brought online in Mid-September (9/13/13) will yield approximately a total of BTC12445.3143, or BTC.00124453 per share. Even THIS is higher than the IPO price!

6TH/s
September 13
=.00124453/SHARE


How about the remaining 44TH/s that Labcoin is going to bring online in Mid-Late October? Nobody's perfect - lets make it November 6th!

44TH/s brought online 11/6/13 would still yield BTC45266.2753, resulting in a per-share yield of BTC.00452663!

44TH/s
November 6
=.00452663/SHARE




The best part - this doesn't even include hardware sales!

So, the expected value of JUST the 50TH/s that Labcoin plans to bring online is .0057721 per share, not including hardware sales, and NOT including the additional 50-150TH/s that their 65nm generation is going to bring!

50TH/s
6TH/s Sep 13 + 44TH/s Nov 6
=.0057721/SHARE




Everyone here can argue how they want, but if LC starts their early hashing on-time and their 44TH/s hashing even a week late, this stock is undervalued by 40% BEFORE hardware and additional future hashrate.

Cheers!

Do one with this update:

As we already stated, chip documentation isn't ready yet for public distribution.
We will start distribution to third parties when hashing power deployed will meet the goals we have set. This is our top priority right now.
We want to mention that we have received interview requests from several well know parties, CNN and Bloomberg being the most prominent  and late progress with our 65nm design lead us to believe we will deploy 200-300 TH within 2013.  
207  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 06, 2013, 09:35:00 AM
"f there is any truth in my assertion the question, I suppose, is for how long can LC maintain enough of the global hashing rate to justify it's existence, if at all?"

They are also developing new chip sizes Smiley
208  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 06, 2013, 08:27:08 AM
Is this a good long term investment or is it just for short term profit, suitable for flippers and day traders?

I am not skilled enough to day trade so I would need a good long term prospect if I am to sell up my ActM shares.

What is the clock all about?  Isn't that asking for a big fail??

Daytrade now.. When clock ends, go for long term Smiley
When clock ends they start hashing..
209  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 06, 2013, 07:25:22 AM
It was the 10th that clock is wrong

how about 24 hours timezone buffer..
how about 24 hours mining before dividend can be calculated Smiley
210  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 06, 2013, 05:18:24 AM
Almost Smiley Comming close now!

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211  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 05, 2013, 06:04:19 PM
"LC will not have meaningful hardware sales" why not?
212  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 05, 2013, 04:00:50 PM
TheSwede75 is now online, for the record.
Edit: and gone.

Uhh so? Labcoin gave updates yesterday  Wink
213  Local / Markt / Re: groepsaankoop TechnoBit K1 en K16 miner - [STATUS] wachten op levering Avalon... on: September 05, 2013, 02:11:57 PM
Nice!
214  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 04, 2013, 03:57:14 PM
Almost Smiley

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215  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 04, 2013, 02:38:33 PM

I'm not sure this will resolve as true, even if Labcoin has the hardware, mainly because they never agreed to send out sample chips to 5 forums members, etc, etc.

Indeed, labcoin itself has nothing to do with the bet.. so the five members arent appointed or exist.. people who bet on this loose anyway..
Smart bet starter Smiley
216  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 04, 2013, 01:58:02 PM
Some real trolling?

https://bitminter.com/livestats/big

User: fpga1
217  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 04, 2013, 04:39:05 AM
How about no mining in a week. And no mining in 6weeks?

I think that will do it.

Yes, is scary to know they just disappear, no news and updates, no asic chips and miners, and all those road show are full of Bs and Lies.

Again? Every week?
218  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 02, 2013, 10:03:21 PM


Chuang Tzu = always right  Wink

219  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 02, 2013, 09:53:51 PM
By now you should know delays are a big deal.

What is on order is a specific amount of hashing not a percentage of the network, which is ever expanding; being late means more than just having earnings delayed, it also means less earnings total.

All this ignoring time preference.

True that about delays, but what do you think will happen if the test run/ first chips do their job? I think more will come online..
And who cares about the tech specs @ that moment? Thats their concern, we just want to see the hashing power and dividends come online.. and thats for the time being..

When they are going to sell the chips; okay; imho -> than alot of things need to be answered.. for potential buyers of the hardware.. than they need shit load of specs and stuff..

But for now.. Let them bring it first; ill go moan after that..

Yes.. a number 1. Smiley
220  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: September 02, 2013, 09:40:00 PM
Well delays; delays; we are used to those on this forum and in the bitcoin world right?

As long as they mine eventually and take that % of the network.. 1 week, 1 month, 2 months; who cares if you got cheap shares..
Just leave it a side and wait..
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