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221  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It's stupidity to have thousands in Bitcoin using a software wallet on: February 05, 2024, 06:47:02 PM

Things are different now, in fact way better, still if you are new and you want to DCA into Bitcoin, kindly consider getting a Trezor wallet at least, don't keep Bitcoin worth $2000, $10,000 on a software wallet, even if its a open source software wallet I believe this amount is too much for a software wallet, having this much means you can afford a hardware wallet.

Honestly, it is really just that the same, it is really just that there are people who cant really be able to handle themselves when it comes to those things specially if its related to security.
Im telling you that i have been that failing on purchasing some hardware wallet even if its just that cheap. Why? because im not really that holding a substantial amount of Bitcoin
and this is why buying one wont really be that relevant. Well, i do have some few though and some altcoins but i can say that there are wallet which are open source.
Yes, its software but as long you do possess its keys then you could actually be able to access that wallet compared into those custodial ones which does require
those email log in or whatsoever. It is really just that sometimes you would really be needing to make use of your common sense for you to be able to differentiate on which one is better and
which one is really that risky.
222  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can Bitcoin Drop to Zero? on: February 02, 2024, 03:59:36 PM
Op you don't have to confuse yourself because BTC will not and never go to the zero level again and that should be an imagination from the former Deputy Governor. All those people are haters of BTC so they are all willing the down fall of bitcoin but it will not happen in any day. Instead bitcoin will be going up and up. Many people have done said but the price is soaring the more. Bitcoin has nothing to do with theoretically and in practically bitcoin is going up. Bitcoin only have bear and bull market and in the bear market is meant to allow to buy bitcoin for those who are ready to join the investment.
I use to believe that bitcoin price will just remain and be regulating in high value not until I started paying attention to things, for now their is slightly little opportunity to how this could happen but we still can’t say bitcoin price can’t return to zero it can’t happen at least not now but it can happen, let me just ask this question, what do you think will be the faith of bitcoin if the financial monetary system fails today? Everything will collapse before rebuilding will start up again.

Yes, anything can happen, gold or any asset can become worthless, so we should not rule out the scenario of bitcoin falling to zero. But looking at what's going on and what bitcoin has achieved, the possibility of that happening is very low and almost zero. I'm even quite confident that if it happens, it won't happen in the near future, in our generation. So we should not waste time thinking about those things and always be skeptical about bitcoin. Meanwhile, many others take advantage of that time to accumulate bitcoin and enjoy life as bitcoin prices increase.
Anything could really happen when it  comes to investment and doesnt matter on where you do make yourself getting involved with.Bitcoin can drop to zero? Anything could really be possible but we cant really be able to tell whether it would happen or not on just simply basing up into its current condition or recognition does it have in the market today. The only key on here is that you should really be just that invest on the money that you could afford to lose then you wont really be stressing yourself whether Bitcoin would go to zero or not. It would really be just that only having that 2 possible outcome on which you would neither be earning profit or not.
We've been already here for a decade+ on its existence and there are tons of those when goes to zero? is it dead? kind of lines that we could see around but look at on where it is now?
You wont really be that so numb on not to see those things and differences and its benefits comparing into those traditional investment.
223  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Proverbs and Sayings that Act as Triggers to Gambling on: February 02, 2024, 12:10:07 PM
Just as we have expressed our concerns about certain gambling advertisements serving as potential triggers, I have observed and I think that there are gambling proverbs or quotes can also play a role in influencing individuals. Look at this Chinese proverb, "If you don’t gamble, you won’t know how lucky you are." From this proverb, it can spur a regular person to explore gambling as a means to test their luck and become hooked. Also, the person who has been gambling will want to continue gambling while being hopeful that someday they would eventually be lucky and hit the jackpot.

What other proverbs or sayings could potentially act as triggers, enticing individuals to initiate or perpetuate their gambling activities?
There are probably too many to count, and this is because we know that in order to achieve great deeds, great risks have to be taken, however the risk and the reward should at least be proportional otherwise it does not make much sense to take a risk for a very small reward.

And while I enjoy to gamble and it is a very entertaining hobby, at the same time I realize that those that are aiming to obtain profits out of it are taking a risk that is too high since chances are they will never obtain the reward they are looking for.
Hobby? making it something that on active manner would really be just that putting you on potential gambling addiction on which this is something which it isnt really that recommended but if you are dealing gambling
with having that kind of control and moderation then it would really be just that fine but if you are really that dealing with it with having that kind of money making mindset then this is where shit things do really happen.
This is why it would really be that important that you should really be having the control. Speaking about those sayings or proverbs then i dont really believe much that it could really be the main reason on why
people would really be dying on playing gambling just because they had been able to read up the line which this is something that could changed up someones personality and this is why
it is really that important that self control and moderation would be the key.
224  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading tokens or coins, which one is better or gives more profits? on: February 01, 2024, 09:48:58 PM
I've tried both of them and it was hard to determine which one because it also depends on the coins/tokens trade value. Sometimes tokens are profitable and sometimes also coins, depending on the situation and market status. So many factors to consider and one is hype, you'll be rich when got the right coin/token but during the crisis, never expect any of them to showcase great results.

Either of the two, high volatility seems to be important and acts as the multiplier. The higher the bigger chance.
I do not really see the difference when the ranks go down as well. Like some coin that is 65th ranked and token 66th ranked should not really have that much difference. Just because one has its own chain and the other doesn't can't really put any difference into them. At the very top we have just coins, which shows that people like to invest heavily into things that have their own chain, not all but 99% of them are like that, so it should be important to be a coin to get super high.

But if it is not high right now, then it means it didn2t get that much attention from the people neither. Letting it be is a lot more important, decide on its merits and not really based on its chain, that way you would be able to find ones that are actually good.
Actually there's no much difference in between in trading tokens or coins, despite of their ranks or whatsoever on which gains would really be just that depending in regarding the volume of such coins.
We do know that it does have that kind of movements on which you could really take advantage with. There are ones who are really that able to play with those movements and this what matter the most.
Its impossible thatyou cant really be able to spot out on which coins or projects that you would really be seeing that you could really be able to play with when it comes to active trading or shorter ones.
Profits depending or basing up whether you do make active trades or just simply hold and this is something that cant really be known unless if you would really be choosing up on which coins/tokens
you  would really be dealing with.
225  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto investment vs real estate investment : Which one more dependable? on: February 01, 2024, 08:38:56 PM
Crypto investment vs real estate investment : Which one more dependable in the future
Though have been in the crypto space for quite some time now, I knew little about crypto. A friend of mine just introduced me to real estate investment.
Which one should I go for with a capital less than $2500?
Actually, determining which investment option is the best depends on you. because you are the one who can assess your ability to invest comfortably. Of course, these two investments have great potential in the future, so if we have money it is better to invest in both.
Yes, it all comes down to personal preference when it comes to choosing an investment. If someone has a better understanding of real estate investment, then they should look for a suitable property that fits their capital. On the other hand, if someone is more knowledgeable about cryptocurrencies, they can invest in multiple cryptocurrencies available in the market to diversify their capital.
Yes that's right. The most important thing is actually an understanding between these two investments. However I love real estate and crypto especially Bitcoin but you can't actively make money from crypto like Real Estate and real estate beats crypto unless you invest for the long term.

But bitcoin is the best option to store your money and preserve your economic energy all the time and sell it easily compared to Real Etate. So we view these two assets as conflicting, even though we should have both. we should see it as an investment to create wealth. If I had $2500 in capital perhaps my plan would be to use that money to create money flow opportunities in bitcoin and the money generated would be used to purchase Real Estate to preserve the economic energy I generate. I believe that is the best strategy of course.
Actually before that crypto market exist, i do already have those plans and liking on investing with real estates on which just like on what others been saying that this is a venture or a business that does involved small amount on which it would really be needing up tons of money for you to be able to get one. Once you do able to get one then you could really be able to monetize it out via renting and we do know that this is something that could really be that passive. This is why not all people would really be able to get such opportunity on getting one because of the capital needed. This is why people would really be just that
finding for that cheaper alternative.

Both things could really be that giving out that kind of opportunity on making such success but of course it would really be just that depending on how you would gonna deal with it.
Not all would really be that successful on this case. This is why it would really be better that you should really be knowledgeable on the things that you are dealing with.
226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investing altcoins now or during halving? on: February 01, 2024, 07:37:02 PM
Now is the best time to buy your altcoins. If you buy after the halving, you will probably end up paying more for the altcoins you like. Obviously if you plan to hold long term it is less important but regardless, it’s better to buy now than after the Bitcoin block reward halving.
Well, I agree with you. In fact, maybe a few days before the halving, the price of altcoins will rise, and buying altcoins at that time will require more money. It's a good idea if you want to buy your favorite altcoin, now is the right time when the price has not yet risen, or even tends to be cheap. However, we don't know what will happen after the halving, but the potential for bitcoin and altcoin prices to rise is huge.

We don't know what will going to happened what we can do is to keep monitoring the updates of those alts that we wanted to invest our money, more on speculation as there's no one who can accurately predict what will be the next market movement especially during the halving, though logically right that you should buy while the price still low if you really trust the team.

More on how you do your assessment and research, there's should be no one to push you but it your own knowledge and will to position your investment.
This would really be always the most challenging situation that we do need to cope up with on which there's no way that we could really be able to make ourself that able to know on what would happen in the future.
It might really be that the same or might be different this time comparing into those previous cycles.This is why its always been hard on making out some speculations basing up into those past events on which it cant really be avoided not to assume out that it would really be also happening. Basing up into those previous cycles or situations in previous years then we can really tell that those last dips before and after halving event
is the most sweetest spot for us to make that buying moment on which we know that this would really be the last dip before the market would be shooting up into the moon.

If you dont like on making yourself that getting left behind with the train then it would really be that wise that you should really be securing yourself when it comes to positioning yourself
on buying those cheaper or lower price entries. Somewhat the most common question is, when?
227  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling on: February 01, 2024, 12:44:36 PM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?
Actually when it comes on trying out to make some counter bets with the favorite team/player then i have already that experienced several times on which it would really be that basing up into some factors
on which i do usually do tend to check out. Trying out to check their past performances on which you could really be able to go with side to side comparison on which it would really be giving out that kind of idea
on where you should really that put up your bet even if it means that you would really be going against with your favorite team or player. Some might not consider on taking some bets because of some
personal reasons like they would really be that loyal into those teams and to those people who dont really care as long they could be able to win. Loyalty isnt something that applicable everytime.
228  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Binary Trade Better or Better to Buy and Hold Bitcoin? on: January 31, 2024, 07:35:46 PM
I have been in a dilemma for some time now. Do I invest Bitcoin or I will start binary trade. I could not understand anything. Sometimes I feel like doing binary trade. I think that if I don't lose it, it goes around in my mind. But I did a lot of messing with Bitcoin. And read many websites and articles. After seeing everything and I have been around in the crypto world for a long time. I have experience on Bitcoin because Bitcoin 2022 was priced a lot. But now 2023 he is going to Bitcoin and at the beginning of this 24th and I am growing. For that I ask you for feedback if you give your valuable ideas then what is better for me because I have been in conflict with Aibitcoin and Binary Trade for a long time. But in many places I see that I have people and some they are making a lot of money.

Binary trade could really be considered to be a gamble considering that you would really be needing up to guess on where the prices could really go on the next few seconds or minutes or basing up on the set-up on the said platform on which we do know that the span of time given is really that too short. Even if you do say that you would really be applying some technical analysis but it wont really be giving out that kind of guarantee
that you could really be able to make up some sure trades. If you do see that you are earning some profits on binary trades then go ahead and continue on what you are doing but if you are someone who do sees
that you are already that making some losses then it would really be more better that you should really be holding your position and would rather making yourself that be idle
rather than on risking into binary on which you do know that you could lose up your coins instead.
229  Economy / Speculation / Re: Your feelings if Bitcoin price takes your expectations unaware on: January 31, 2024, 01:45:52 PM
Your feelings if Bitcoin price takes your expectations unaware
I once heard and read that one person who was successful in the crypto market, he had speculated and predicted the price of Bitcoin in a certain year, but the speculation he believed in never appeared, in fact it made him a little confused in his beliefs.

He told me interesting things about Bitcoin, advice that touched my heart, invest in Bitcoin, so that you are not burdened, never have high hopes and strong desires for your investment assets in Bitcoin, This means that investing doesn't have high hopes, let it run like water where everything is stored in a reservoir, that's when you can draw conclusions about the assets you own.

In this way, I won't be too confused and anxious if Bitcoin doesn't match my expectations, I'll just enjoy it.
That is good advice because very often what causes traders and investors to lose their money is not the market itself but the expectations they have about it, think about all of the people that invest in shitcoins, they must know that the coin in which they are investing is a bad coin, but they do so because they are expecting for the coin to skyrocket and become rich in just a few weeks, then when they lose everything they blame the scammers behind the coin, and while they are at fault, what caused those people their devastating losses were their projected profits.
One of the main reasons on why scam coins and fraud projects do still continue to flourish out into this market is that because into those newbie investors who are really that believing that they could really bet rich out of those shit coins that existing on the market.If we do really tend to zoom out on how many shitcoins that we do have in the market and the numbers who are really that launching on every second and every minute
then we can really be able to tell that scammers and fraud developers would really be keeping on coming because newbie investors would really be keeping on feeding those scammers.

Speaking about Bitcoin investment then its better not to set yourself with those unrealistic goals and numbers because once the market would really be going into the opposite side of things then it would really be
just simply resulting into that great disappointment on which it might really be leading up into various possible actions which caused by that emotion on which you are
anticipating or expecting something positive but turns out to be negative.
230  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Share Your Thoughts on the Recent Crypto Price Drop on: January 31, 2024, 11:01:30 AM
During the last week the crypto world has been quite a ride with the price slump we've experienced. With Bitcoin and altcoins taking a notable dip on the 23rd, I'm curious to hear how everyone is coping and how it affected your investments and what your strategies are moving forward considering the upcoming halving.

For the veterans, is this just another cycle, or does it feel different this time? And for the newcomers, how are you handling your first major dip?

Also, how do you think this slump will affect the growth of Bitcoin and altcoins in 2024? Are you adjusting your strategies, or holding firm to your original plans?
Not all dumps or price corrections need to know the reason because it is pretty simple, the market has been driven by its volatile nature - it pumps and dumps all the time due to the changing demand and supply. Rumors and speculations are possibly rising but should have to keep everyone aware of it? We can't buy all of it but rather accept that the market goes in up-and-down directions no matter what.

Let us widen our understanding, the market is so volatile. That is why Holding is necessary in case there is a dump. And aside from that, every drop is an opportunity as well as the rise.

I agree with what you said; honestly, dude, it's not important to know the reason. If we look at the candlestick, we have been mostly bearish for a while, and in this case, our patience is being measured because of the volatility exhibited by crypto assets on exchanges currently.

This is the opportunity to be cautious in every decision we make in our holdings, whether they are short- or long-term. If you're confident enough to keep up with the market, go ahead, but if you're not, stay and ease up on waiting for the right opportunity.
Technicals or fundamentals arent solid things that you could rely on it 100% on which there's no way that we could really be able to assure on where the prices would really be going.
People around do really love always on seeing the price to shoot upwards without even realizing that corrections and price drops are really just that part of the movement on which we know that this is how market works
or behaves. It is really just that people cant really just that accept out whenever they do see a red candle. Instead on making some DCA then do rather freak out and making those cut losses
on which they are really just that shooting up into their own heads.

Instead on taking up the opportunity on accumulating more, they do rather do the opposite.They would really be just starting out to make out actions on the time that
they've been seeing the price is shooting up on which it is really just that totally opposite on what a certain individual should really be doing in the first place.
If you are someone whose really that being impulsive and dont have the idea on how this market works then you are really bound on such mistakes.
231  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What You will do in this situation? on: January 31, 2024, 06:39:34 AM
A few days ago, my house was being cleaned. Three people are cleaning the front and back yards of the house. One of them was playing slots and I saw him. Actually, I wanted to suggest he try sports betting because I often see the guy watching football matches and he does have knowledge about many teams. So I was wondering if I could introduce him to sports betting so he could use his ability to predict every game he knows about.

Besides that, I just feel that if he deposited $10 = IDR 150,000 into a gambling site just to play slots, he would probably suffer a complete loss. But if he can place bets on sports betting, there is a possibility of him winning some money on small bets. Wouldn't that be an advantage for him?

If you were in this situation, what would you do? Introduce him to sports betting or let him stick to playing slots. Yesterday, I just let it go but we still often meet at other activities.
its not compulsory for you to advice him on what he should do. Would you rather have him blame you if he starts sports betting and experience a huge loss in the process? The thing is that it's very possible that he already knows about sports beating since he loves sports and is good and it analysis but living sports isn't enough reason why one should go into sports betting. Allow him do what works best for him so regardless of the outcome, you know you don't have anything to worry about. Maybe you should try and ask him how is slot betting is going just so you can get a first hand information on what's really going on with what he is currently doing and if he is experiencing some loss, you can then introduce sports betting as an alternative that he can look out for if he is still interesting in it.
We cant really judge out directly a certain person on how he looks or on what are the things that he learned. Its true that he might be that already knowledgeable about sports betting but had just decided on dealing up slot gaming because this is where his interest would really be kicking on on which you would really be ashamed once you do make out those kind of explaination and made out some suggestion about playing it but he/she
already knows on what it is. Plus i dont really like on making out some suggestions on which we do know that it could really cause up that kind of blaming if ever a certain individual would really be able to
commit out some huge losses on which you would really be the ones who would be getting blamed with.

This is why it would really be that best that you should really be letting them on what are the things that they would be doing and never intend on making yourself having
those kind of suggestions if you dont like to stir up someones interest.
232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How do you feel about market recovery on: January 30, 2024, 08:36:47 PM
Everyone will definitely be happy to see the market improving, all projects are starting to be able to carry out their development, some projects may have been very disturbed by the market conditions during the bear period, and now they are slowly improving.
true. Everyone like the environment where crypto marke getting pump or Start recovering from a point where it stop itself to dump more. Although market was going well due to ETF approval of BTC, but suddenly market go to correction period. Although a months before, market condition wasn't good enough but now Atleast altcoins are trying to pump which makes people happy. And it'll be more interesting when bull market will start with its full power.
If we see a green market it makes us happy, especially if we have invested before, so we can see an increase in profits, but this often happens afterward when the market makes a correction, making us confused. Therefore, being calm and waiting for the real bullish season to come would be better. We will be grateful if it happens sooner than we thought, but if it happens later than we thought we will remain calm

You are talking about market fluctuation which will always be there but the most important thing which matters the most is the time when we have invested. Because, if you have invested during the peak it would obviously go red when the correction phase happens and post price hitting the bottom of correction phase it would start rebounding which may confuse users as they would be in loss and market will be in green hence timing matters a lot and we would be able to master it only through our own research. I think until we wait for bull run we can buy bitcoins on every dip which happens before the bull run.
This is why timing would really be that relevant or something that you should really be focusing into. Dont make yourself that investing on the peak of bull run because once the market would really be making
some u-turn or that casual cycle then you would really be ending up on having that extreme negative on which it might causes for you to sell on lose because you have panicked out seeing your red portfolio.
This is why it would really be always best that you should really be that wary about the things that you are really that dealing with and not really just making actions without having those proper research and
preparations because once you do neglect out these basic stuffs then you are really that prone to mistakes and errors.

Market cant really just move on on a single path on which if there would really be that bullish run then there would be bearish or consolidation period on which
it would really be just that normal that you would really be having that kind of idea in regarding the situation and would make out immediate step on what you are dealing off with.
233  Economy / Economics / Re: The savings problem on: January 30, 2024, 07:59:13 PM
It's very easy to spend money we earned than saving them because we cannot be completely done with budget needs, however, there are wants and needs from our budget plans, we must also administer the way to properly manage our asset in other not to waste them on what are not going to be profitable on us, another thing is to help the source to our income by making efforts on additional source in other to have alternative or backup, so that the income will be sufficient enough for both savings and expenses.
Exactly, knowing the difference between wants and need is very important when you are trying to save some money; you will be overlooking your wants and focus only on the needs so as to save some funds for future. To achieve that, you have to avoid peer pressure because that is one of the main reason young people don't save money, they will always be looking at their colleagues so as to have all the have as well.

You also need another source of income, depending only on your salary cannot make you become rich, it will always be either you are satisfied with what you have, or the money will not be enough for your needs, because of that, you need extra source of income to be able to save and plan for your future.
Everything should really be moderation and in balance, once you do skip out this thing into your mind then you would be messing up everything.  Wink

People normally be saving up money for the future on which they would really be having that kind of default thinking but due to those life situations and conditions on which
you would really be ending up on saving up unwisely specially if you are really that focusing that much on spending on things which are shit then you would
really be ending up on a shitty situation. This is something that you should really be avoiding in the first place.

You should know on how to save because life situations could really be having those unexpected events on which it would really be pertaining on
financial back up and this is where savings would really be working on.
234  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You can not win if you do not risk on: January 30, 2024, 06:55:00 PM
Good day guys, how is the gambling industry helping you this period?

However I just want to say that in the game world gamblers are always there to bet and the important thing here is when a gambler can not risk he also can not win, true or false?
Many might still believe that a gamblers who's just gambling at the first day might end up winning w huge amount of money that he wasn't expecting but the truth is that as long as you stake on bet you have already risk your money, be it big or small.
Gambling is really just that really for fun nothingless, it just turns out that people are really that expecting or anticipating too much on things and this is why they do really wrecked up themselves on gambling because of too much expectation on which this is something that should really be controlled or else you would definitely be messing up yourself on gambling on which we dont really like for it to happen.
Gambling is for leisure and entertainment but due to that kind of possibility on earning big or winning to those jackpots then this would really be triggering out that kind of interest on which
it would really be pushing you to play even more or something that do talks about being that desperate on which we know that its never been good on that way.

There are ones who would really be able to mind on about those probabilities but majority would really be falling out into the idea that they would really be that
continue on playing and they might really be able to hit up the sweet spot.
235  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Silly and scary questions, and what would you do if that were you. on: January 29, 2024, 08:59:30 PM
I became worried and found it difficult to answer after my friend asked me scary and ridiculous questions about Bitcoin ownership.
he asked. If friends, new acquaintances, or other people find out that you have a sizable amount of Bitcoin, and you don't tell them. Then you are kidnapped with several people covering their faces, with the aim of getting your wallet address with the risk that if you don't give it you will be killed.
And another reason, you have given your wallet address to members you trust, such as family members or your wife and children.

And I want to know, what are you going to do.
Aren't you going to give the bad guy your wallet address, and you let him get killed. However, your Bitcoins remain safe because you have given your wallet address to someone you trust.
Or you will give it away because you still want to live, and you don't have any more Bitcoins.

And it was just a casual conversation with a friend of mine who both owns Bitcoin, and I was just wondering what other people's answers to this dreaded question made me want to create a thread.
If you are on a life and death situation then most likely people would really love to live on which giving out their coins would really be that their main choice but there would really be people who would really be fighting for that certain situation yet they dont really like to lose all of the coins that they were accumulating hard for how many years which they dont really like ending up on that way. This is why its really that important that you should really that be secretive on what you are really that dealing with. If you do know that you are holding a considerable or huge amount of coins into your wallet, no matter how trusted your friend is or colleague, it wont really be still that an assurance that you would really be completely safe from those risks of abduction or something that talks about forcibly getting your privatekeys or making those bitcoin transfers.

In to this kind of situation then it would really be just giving you the choice, whether you do love your money or would really be loving your own life?  Grin
236  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading not for everyone! on: January 29, 2024, 08:26:15 PM
so why bother to trade when your knowledge and skills are not sufficient enough to make trading work.
It's because newbie traders mind tells trading is the way to get out of a poor life. Their mind is full positivity, and positive emotions where even they don't have enough knowledge in trading they think that it's easy. It's also what mostly mentors taught that you will be rich in trading, and that's what I also taught before. Realistically, it's possible to happen but if you only have a small amount of funds it's difficult to be in that place because you're not always win in trading,  there's no always a good setup in the market, and sometimes you experience a couple of loses. And that's what I see in trading that make our dreams to hold but we have to pursue trading especially if we are profitable because you will only fail if you quit.
Patience is very important in trading. We always have to invest with patience in trading. Trading can't be done in a hurry for newbies, there are usually many of us who are in a hurry when it comes to trading. We always have to have a long term plan for trading. Many times it is seen that many people think of becoming millionaires overnight by trading. In that case, they are very hasty and without checking the market, they make decisions very quickly due to which they suffer a lot. So. We always have to have a long term plan in our trading. Gain enough knowledge about trading. If we don't have good knowledge about trading, then we can't know much about trading. How to invest, where to trade.
Sooner or later you would really be able to realize on what are the things which you would really be needing up to adjust on the time that you have been that affected much by those impulsive emotions on which it did really lead into disaster on which this is something that you would really be needing up to adjust accordingly or basing up into the condition that you are really that facing into. There are really just those people who are really that
not able to make out such move or actions not until they would really be able to experience for themselves into those real conditions or situations on which they would really be needing to adjust accordingly.

Some might be able to adapt it well and some couldn't on which it would really be that depending on someones actions. Its true that there are really things which arent meant for us no matter how hard we do
try and how much hard we do able to deal with. Well, we dont know for those things if we dont try and there's no harm on trying though but of course everything should be in moderation considering
that we are talking money spending or investment on here.
237  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is this the end of excitement on: January 26, 2024, 06:30:52 PM
You mean plan B's, stock to flow model? Hmmm, you've been buying for 10 years and I think that you've got a lot of experience and already an expert on the market even as for accumulation.

Don't get excited with what's the news currently about the approval of Bitcoin spot ETF, what you should think of is about being patient.

We're not yet done with the halving and that's when the exciting part happens once it's done.
Actually i did really make up some peek into OP's registration date basing up on what you have said on which it is really that indeed that he's a 10 year old forum member already on which
it is really just that impossible for someone on having no idea at least on whats going on into this market. If he do able to held up his coins from those early years up to now then he had
been able to sustain out that roller coaster ride that we do have in the past and now that institutions and governments is already making up some involvement then it wont really be
shocking that price could really be somewhat more manipulative.

If you do really just simply trust up Bitcoin then you wont really be bothering up yourself on whatever the things that are happening within the market
but rather you would really be just that making yourself that be holding up your position and wont be bothered on whats happening around.
238  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling for fun vs gambling for the financial benefit. on: January 26, 2024, 05:26:41 PM
I have read a lot of thread on this board talking about the need to gamble responsibly and suggesting that gambling is meant to be done for fun and not to be seen as a means of livelihood. While this is theoretically alright, in the reality so many persons actually gamble because they want to get some financial top up from the gamble.

What is mostly common in my neighborhood and that I mostly do is soccer betting and if I am not exaggerating, 90% of the people that do soccer betting do do because they want to win money.

They can watch the match for fun but as long as it involved them paying money before gambling, most persons don't normally see it as fun and this is the reason why after placing a particular bet, if the game isn't successful they continue betting hoping to get a win along the way thervy being seen as addict.

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?
On the time that you are already making gambling as a form of making money or livelihood or job then this is where shit things do happen. You cant really be able to make yourself that be able to achieve
on what you are trying to achieve because gambling is really just that purely in luck but since we are talking about betting then it wont really be shocking and this is something that would be pertaining
about into those people who could really actually be able to have that advantage comparing into those people who do make out such playing casino games on which there's no way that they could really be
able to take advantage or having the edge. There would really be no assurance to that.

Somehow there are really people who are really that playing gambling for the sake of fun, although it would really be just that only a few who would really be
able to have that kind of success when it comes to this on which there would really be those people that would be playing for fun and there would really be those
people who would be playing for the sake of money as simple as that.
239  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin has never pass ATH before halving but it has always dip don't panic. on: January 26, 2024, 04:59:23 PM
Bitcoin dip below $40,000 yesterday which most people thought was going to be the support or lowest price of the market as we were all bullish after Bitcoin ETF got approval from the security & exchange commission. The price of Bitcoin has recovered to trading above $40,000 but it might dip again therefore I'm writing this thread to advice the forum members not to panic. I haven't been too long in the industry as I started my journey recently but during my research and comparing Bitcoin prices before and after the halving, I noticed Bitcoin has never crossed the ATH before the halving but many people are thinking it'll do that this year rather I noticed that it always dips before the halving and that what is happening to the market therefore we shouldn't not be alarmed, this is what happens always from the history of Bitcoin and history always repeats in the market. Lets be guided and don't lose faith as the market is only dipping not crashing.
Breaking ATH before halving event didnt really happen every since on which those movements or if we do speak about bullish sentiment is something that could happen 7-9 months later after the work on which it would really be just that normal that those kind of price movement assumption had surely stick or stuck into our minds but it isnt really that bad for you to make yourself having those kind of versatility and having those kind of long patience on facing up these kind of problems.You would surely be getting against with other peoples views and other in line interest towards the price.

Bitcoin havent never been able to go past all time before halving or prehalving thing but well, we dont really know on what would happen in the future when it comes into this on which there
might be possibilities that there would be something those kind of new events but well it wont really be something that likely to happen.
240  Economy / Economics / Re: Passion for skills. on: January 26, 2024, 12:58:17 PM
Not me but what I notice nowadays is that everyone is learning to be a salesman. Not just from this industry but everywhere and that's like the skill that will never be gone out of sight even years will pass by. And in the past, it's already there. I'm starting to have that idea that my children should be taught about having the skills in sales because when you've got that, it's like that you can be placed everywhere. You'll be more social, you've got the interpersonal skills, communication, rapport, and everything that you need to go along with people or potential customers.
PS: I am no good with that.

Being a good salesman requires communication skill as very priority which will help an individual in many sectors but the job is obsolete already due to the e-commerce and whopping mall culture all around the world so you just need to know how to list your product and advertise it to get better sales.
Sounds simple but this is actually the hardest skill that you could really have on which trying out to market out something and trying to make sales. Having this kind of skill isnt really that obsolete but rather it is really that
something needed now that ecommerce is booming up.For those who are really that good when it comes to this kind of specific skills are the ones who do really be able to have that kind of advantage.
We do know that there would really be different sets of specific skill set on which it would really be that something relevant when it comes to additional income or additional job
since you are really that finding for another source, so it would really be normal that you would be needing to work hard for it.


If a person has good skills in some work then that person can enjoy many opportunities. A person needs a lot of money to live a good life and to earn this money needs skills. If we can get good skills in all jobs.  We don't have to sit idle. If we want, we can work in our own country or go to another country to earn good money.
Advantage is really there and if you are someone whose really that sensible on things that you would really be doing then you cant really just that make yourself that
be contented on what you do currently have but instead you would really be finding tons of ways on making yourself way more better
if we do speak about different source of income from different skills that you do have.
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