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1021  Economy / Economics / Re: Can one achieve financial independence through crypto currency? on: February 13, 2023, 10:38:21 PM
Financial independence is achieved. When the wallet serves as one's own bank it is possible for the users to spend whenever required. This form of financial freedom is achieved through cryptocurrencies. Apart from this, people making an earning in the form of bitcoin too possible, but there is high risk as well as market won't be the same everytime to give stable earning.
Lots had reached out that financial state on which they do able to make themselves get rich specially into those holders and the other way around is that to those people who do able to make some sufficient earning or income via trading or other crypto investment.If you do able to achieve this state then you could really achieve that independence but of course this isnt something simple that you could deal with.
It isnt something that all would be able to easily get deal with, this is why we are thriving and doing our very best and this is really needing to have that risk taking because this isnt something that
you could reach out without having that proper dealing.
1022  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling safer than before ? on: February 13, 2023, 09:51:28 PM
We all know that gambling existed long time in human history and in several forms and ways. I’m sure old people has another image when they think about gambling the first thing coming on their head is most probably cards, casinos and horse racing since they were more famous than any other game. Now as in this new generation of gambling thinking of it generate an image of slots, betting and live card tables and tou can gamble in your own house without getting in touch with people all you need is your device and access to internet.
My topic today is about a simple question, Do you think gambling in old days is more safe than our days now?
Just 2 months ago in my region unfortunately a guy in my age has been murdered in cold blood only for gambling when the victim managed to win a good amount of money against the owner of an illegal small casino. If these two people where gambling online nothing bad could happen
In the other hand gambling online also have consequences such as getting scammed by the casino as well.

So im just wrong believing that the word "SAFE" was pertaining about on the risk level but its not since this do talk about security on ones self literally.If we do speak about winning huge amounts whether on online or offline then there's always the risk but we cant really deny that winning big on a physical casino would be imposing up that risk which might result on abducting or killing you due to having tons of money.
Somehow there are ways which you could really be able to avoid yourself on such scenario on where you could always have the option to be with somebody that would be securing you out on getting
away on the vicinity without any problems.As for online casinos then sticking to most reputable and known platforms would be the best bet to make.
1023  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will not become the world currency. on: February 13, 2023, 08:46:22 PM
Did you know? The value of Bitcoin is based on user consensus, which is ultimately based on utility and trust. The uses of blockchain technology are almost limitless, so it is interesting to see the development of this technology.

Even if Bitcoin doesn't become the only world currency, it still survives. It's been Thirteen years since Bitcoin was created, and I don't think it's going away after all this time.

If the world is participating in the network, then I suppose it will become indirectly the reserve currency. The OP is right in saying that the state will likely never recognize it as a global currency. Who cares! The state may fall in the interim. By this stage, money network participation with the best consensus will rule...and I think Bitcoin will always hold the standard necessary to facilitate what the world will eventually need.
Yep, regardless of whether they finally admit it or not, bitcoin is still bitcoin and in the end only a few countries admit it because indeed with their interests, especially for large countries, it is clear that it will be very difficult to make bitcoin into something of more value to them.
But that's not a problem as long as there's no ban then that's already a good thing.
Even they would be banning it but still there's nothing they could do since the support of the community is getting bigger day by day.Yes, it wont really be that an easy thing for it to be spread in every corners of the globe considering that each government does really have their own stance and even there are ones who do accept and legalized it but most of them do really go into banning side.
Bitcoins existence will not become the world currency and wouldnt really become mainstream since fiat would really be always on the top but at least we do really have that alternative
plus we do know on what its benefits and other stuffs and this is why its really getting that huge attention.
1024  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading addiction, are you coping? on: February 10, 2023, 09:20:34 PM
I've never thought it possible for one to get addicted to trading, really absurd and unbelievable if you ask me, though I know that the is some kind of joy and excitement in trading, most especially for those who love trading the market, but Ive never though it to be possible that the excitement derived from trading can lead to addiction, really unheard of.
Atleast, trading is not like gambling, though we still consider those trading without prior knowledge of trading, as gamblers, but is still a key difference which is skill, trading requires still while the bigger part of gambling does not, this I believe makes gambling very easy to get addicted to, but for trading, never believe it was possible to get addicted until now.
Yes it could be possible but it isnt really that much been included on talks because we do know that trading is something that gives us opportunity to make money or income with it would be normal that you wouldnt
really be minding if you are already that addicted to it.

Good thing for this addiction is that you are dealing with something that could potentially make up some profits that could possibly make you financially stable if you do able to take a good grasps to it.
This is far way more better rather than making yourself that get addicted into gambling or something that doesnt benefit you.
1025  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What most gamblers do. on: February 09, 2023, 11:59:33 PM
I want to ask a question. And I need serious answer from this forum, and my question is WHY DOES A GAMBLER DON'T HAVE A SAVINGS.
In my country (Nigeria) there are many gamblers who don't have savings and it isn't help matters at all. Most of these gamblers can't afford for there families but they can afford money they will use to gamble. So why are they not having savings that they can use to help there families in time of lack. Like they said, we save money so money can save us tomorrow. But these gamblers doesn't know that.

Why not ask some of them? Gamblers have a different point of view on their financial aspects and you can't generalize it.

Not all gamblers don't have savings and even if they have, what's the big deal?

As long as being responsible in gambling is being shown, with savings or not, that's what matters.
Having savings or not and asking them out about it then it would be a personal stuff so its better to leave and dont mind on asking someone about their savings because they might really scold you out.
Its not really a big deal, if they dont really have savings then its none of our business and also they do gamble on making use of their money so its non our right on how they would really be making use of it.
Better to mind our own rather than on being that in concern on gamblers savings because to assume out that they neither might or might not have.There's no one
could tell since its personal.
1026  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can we experience $80k this year? on: February 09, 2023, 10:59:14 PM
Nah you probably don't know the market if you think $80k will happen this year it's not this year the bull run will start it would probably going to start at 2024 or 2025 depending on the hype. There's a four year cycle of Bitcoin halving that makes the market start bull run after the halving. And we don't know or no one knows if $80k will happen soon it will go beyond with our expectations since some of us thought that it would reach $100k or so.
We indeed an another bull run for us to reach those numbers once again and majority will really be hoping for that time but we know that 69k ath or ceiling isnt something that could be easily reached nor be broken.
This is why its always that better not to make yourself that hopeful so that you wont really be that getting annoyed or disappointed.This year would really be hard to tell considering that there are no major
events like halving or adoption news or whatsoever and this is why its better not to be that positive when it comes to price on where it would be heading on.
So be aware and act according on your knowledge.
1027  Economy / Gambling / Re: What do you appreciate more Desktop or Phone on: February 09, 2023, 09:36:20 PM
I really don't think that the ideology behind this topic is right a s beside, there are a whole of persons who will prefer to use their phones rather than using a desktop for some following reasons
1. Compactability: is one is one feature of using a phone over a desktop and you'll understand the ease of caring your phone compared to using a desktop.

2. Availability: this is another reason why phone is more preferable over desktop as one can easily stake a game at anywhere and at anytime.

3. User interface: if you'll agree with me that, the gambling apps are built with more simplicity than the website.

These are some few reasons why I feel the use of phone is at advantage over the use of desktop.
In today's world where everything is so fast and available at one call , everyone prefers phone over desktop as they are handy and easy accessible.  You can use it and carry it anywhere you want and your whole work and entertainment is on one click so for me phone always .
Desktops are now its less used as convenience of people.
The phone is the most preferred mode for gaming and even the latest gaming devices are coming in mobile size, the size is been advanced on that even a smaller screen can still put out an amazing gaming resolution that can compare with a desktop.

But then that does not erase the place of desktop in gaming even though its usage has been reduced to the nearest minimum.
How you can say so?
Do you have the actual numbers?

People could easily switch in between desktop and mobile phone depending on where they are because it would be understandable that when you are in transit then mobile phone would be relevant
but when you are on the convenience of your own home then it would be understandable that you would be sticking into your desktop because in overall experience and comfort and also having that
huge and wide screen then gambling experience would really be different compared to small screen.Also, not all gambling sites or casinos does have their own dedicated
app for you to be used which means that user experience wont really be that much pleasing basing up on my actual dealing with it.
1028  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am stopping for legal reasons. Is it really worth the trouble? on: February 09, 2023, 08:36:14 PM
The government will eventually discover businesses that accept crypto as a payment method, as you need to obtain a license to operate within your business. This means that they are constantly monitoring businesses, and if they discover that you are accepting crypto, it is hoped that they will simply issue a fine. However, there is a possibility that you could face jail time. It would be best to avoid accepting crypto to avoid any trouble.
It depends on the government in question, there are governments out there which pass all kind of laws but they rarely enforce them, so not much changes and people keep doing what they want even if now is considered to be illegal, however there are governments that not only use the police excessively but they even have a secret police monitoring their citizens, in that case it is better to stay away from any illegal activity as if you get caught the consequences can be dire.
Once a law had been passed out or been integrated or been implied then as a citizen then you wont really be having no choice but to abide them because if you cant and trying out to oppose and on the time you have been caught then of course you do know on what are the probable consequences with that.We know that each country does have its own stance when it comes to Bitcoin or crypto which it is really that normal for you to act according into your countries laws and regulations.Tending to oppose? If you do see that your business at risks then it would be impossible that you would continue to violate considering you do
know on what are the things that could possibly happen ahead and im sure that all people would be deciding on the same thing.
1029  Economy / Economics / Re: When your passive income equals or slightly above your salary, what would you do on: February 08, 2023, 11:34:24 PM

I have been in a job I detested and although I somehow managed to stay at it for up to 4 years, I didn't even for once let go of my passionate hobby and other passive streams of income I was interested in at the time.
Today, one of my passive interests pays more than my salary. My mind has been yearning for a resignation, but opinions of others and family bears the message of patience with the job I so much detest for reasons ranging from inflation to fear of the unknown.

If you were in my shoes, what would be the best advice you would give yourself and adhere to in this instance?

If you could do both of it and you are also happy with your job or enjoy some time with your colleagues then why would you even need to think about it?
But if you are having a hard time from your job or being stressed due to your workmates then I think it is better to quit and focus on the job that makes you happy.
I'll prefer on this way rather than on quitting.If im enjoying or happy with my current job and at the same time you are earning from your passive then i do agree on what others been
saying that there's no point for you to quit.Earning money with other sources isnt really that everyone  could achieve and this is why you should really be that thankful if ever
you had some success on some passive income on where most people do really fail on achieving so be thankful.
Be wise and make out more investment out of the money you are earning because not all does able to get that opportunity.
1030  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is risky, be conscious on: February 08, 2023, 10:33:24 PM
Every Risk is meant to be taken, there won't be a risk is there is no body to take it, so I can say every Risk is meant to be taken with some level of carefulness,  so you taking a risk while trading is not a new thing, in short apart from online trade even Normal business trade is risky because you might loose your whole money because of a single mistake or situation.

If you really want to to prosper in what ever you do , then you have to be ready to take risk and risking something to get another thing might end up bringing back the two things risked. And you have to be very conscious, once you have taken risk make sure you observe that trade closely as to know when to opt out of it.
totally agree with what you said, no action will be taken no risk will occur, but everything is returned to the person to be able to keep the risks that occur as small as possible and not fatal, even of course it is very good if it is profitable.
but before taking a step, you should know the circumstances that will occur for each step that will be taken, as well as trading.
Observing and analyzing as best as possible is an action that must be taken before going further, so that there are precautions if something goes wrong in the step so that it is not more fatal.
You would be able to learn up those things along the way on which you would really be experiencing errors and mistakes along the way on where these things could help you out to become a better trader later on and thats if you are really that sensible on trying out to accept those errors and accept it. Trading is risky and its one of the most common thing and just like on other investment on which it would really be that
normal that you would really be losing money.Thing here is that you do need to sustain if you do really have plans on making profits or making some good career on trading.Not all would really be
able to handle it out though.
1031  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Nonito Donaire vs Jason Moloney on: February 08, 2023, 09:28:15 PM

Yes, the Donaire vs Moloney bout is already cancelled because the latter suddenly withdrew from the discussion. We don't know the reasons yet as both camps haven't disclosed some information regarding why their discussion has ceased but as per speculations, both camp did have an issue about the slice of the pie. Either camp isn't willing to receive less as in this bout, they are both equal. Now, Nonito Donaire and his camp is on a waiting game again.

that's what pride is. they will stick to what they want up until the event won't push thru. anyway, donaire should not wait any longer as he knows he's not getting any younger. for the next opponent who wants to challenge, just accept it. the purse split should be the secondary consideration. because if he will be picky, he maybe past his golden years anymore.
There's no time to be picky as for Donaire which is true that he isnt getting any younger as years passing on which it would be ideal that he would be accepting for whatever challenge or match arrangements.
When it comes to purse split then there are others which are really that too much in concern about these partitions and if they do find out that it wont be worth or not really that something fair then they
do really just back off and ignore on possible offers which is sad.I agree into that point about pride which we know that someone would really be sticking into that no matter what happens.
1032  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: I want to ask, at the end of the bitcoin and altcoin year, will the price go up on: February 07, 2023, 11:44:58 PM
The crypto market is unpredictable and nobody can foresee her end-of-the-year future price. Due to the volatility of the market, no one can pinpoint whether there will be a price increase in bitcoin and altcoin. Although there are indications that bitcoin and some other altcoins would increase as we draw closer to the bull run that will happen by 2024 since we are already in 2023.

Am hopeful that the price of bitcoin and some other potential altcoins would increase as expected by them.



People should realize this on which they should really be realizing on what are the things that they are really that currently dealing off with which is something that cant really be predicted or something totally in random.
There's no human could able to tell on what would be the future looks like on which it would really be that a common approach for someone to have doubts and getting feared on the  time that market do make out some dips but come to mind off that this is the best time for you to get in or accumulate cheaper coins.

Its not always talking about going up because this isnt how this market behaves or works.Bull run and pumps is part of it but no one could point out on when it would happen.
1033  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can I invest my 60% savings in Bitcoin? on: February 07, 2023, 10:53:48 PM
bitcoin can Crashed again Below $20K Level or Not ?
how much Probability for Down ?

suggest please I can bear some Loss but Can,t afford 100% loss  

waiting for all expert members suggestion?


When we do speak about going down - NO ONE REALLY KNOWS
If we do speak about on when it would be going up - NO ONE REALLY KNOWS!
Experts? - WE ARE ALL SPECULATORS  ON HERE

On this market which is truly that unpredictable and putting up 60% of your savings is really up to you.We do have different risk management which
causes for out to make up some choices whether we do push through or not.
1034  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rejecting odd provider's limit on: February 07, 2023, 09:59:38 PM
My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
How they can track it? Not unless the casinos are sharing their data of the gamblers which I think is not possible. But if you think you are being tracked, the you can always use a different emails for different gambling sites, just make sure you have the records. Some site limits the gamblers because of unusual activities and will ask for a KYC, but if you can prove that you’re innocent and just doing your gambling activities fine, they will back your account to normal and remove the red flag.
Wont really be that surprising that they are really that too paranoid when it comes to someone that do make out some winning or having a good chance of hitting which they would really be having those kind of suspicions which arent even true if ever you are really just playing fair and square.They cant really just accept that there are gamblers who are extremely lucky.
Im aint sure about being tracked and making out some limit or something like that and its true that it is unlikely that they could share up information precisely on a short duration or
i could say that it would be that complex and a hassle thing.
1035  Economy / Economics / Re: Is renting an inevitable waste of money? on: February 07, 2023, 09:56:17 PM
The location is one of the major factors for one to look at the rent or taking a loan for building their homes.

I've got friends that have settled in rural areas where lands aren't expensive and they can just work remotely which is the benefits that they've got from the company.

As we all know, working from home now is the setup that majority likes and favorable although not all really likes that setup.

So, renting is good for short term so that you can move anytime you want.

In the short term, renting is generally good and convenient but OP's dilemma lies in whether to buy a house considering all the factors/risks that may happen in the future. I wouldn't worry about all the possible factors coming from the external environment but would review the relationship seriously. If OP is 100% confident in the commitment with his girlfriend and would not fear that the relationship may break, why not buy a house ? Otherwise, any breakup or divorce in the future would severely ruin everything and drag OP into a mess that he may never come out of. I guess this is the focal point to really think about.
I do agree if the commitment is surely but, to make it sure then they have to get married. That's the only way to assure that their relationship should be assured and that's the time that they should buy a house and pay for its mortgage.

I've seen couples that have decided to take house loan but they're not yet tied to each other. In the end, many have become problematic and they didn't anticipated that they'll be ending with a break up.
I cant really believe that there are couples who had decided to take up some loan even if they arent that married and on the time that they would be having a break up then the ones who had signed those papers is

the one would be sued out or be asked out for those mortgages which is bullshit for someone to agreed upon.If you are really that legally married then it would really be that understandable that you both
do have rights about your priorities or something that do talks about conjugal property which is really that very common.

Renting isnt a waste of money specially if you dont have still the money for you to have your own house.There's no other options left when you are not financially ready.
1036  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am stopping for legal reasons. Is it really worth the trouble? on: February 06, 2023, 11:43:28 PM

So it's a personal thing for me. I can still continue if I wish to, but that doesn't seem like the wise decision. So let's hear what you guys want to say. Give me some advice from your personal experiences.

Better stop if you dont like to mess up your life because you would really get imprisoned.Its just sad that there's nothing we can do if government do really make out such step or decision and its the sad
thing for us to deal with which we dont really have any choice whether to oppose or obey their decisions.It is really just sad that you are really that optimistic towards bitcoin adoption and recognition
via applying it into your own business but it turns out that regulation issues would really be the main problem as always.So they do really end up on prohibiting
crypto or Bitcoin into your place, so for now its better to cool it off if you dont like more problems be faced on potentially.
1037  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The best time to buy bitcoin. on: February 06, 2023, 10:44:41 PM
Always the best time is when people doubt the current mrket situation such as the price going down, and they are still hoping to get more dip is an excellent opportunity to buy, and also when people see the market is crashing. They doubt if they will keep accumulating bitcoin and always grab the chance. It's an all-or-never task thing to do.
The best time would be;

1.Everything is red
2.Everyone is on fear and freaking out
3.We are seeing fuds everywhere
4. Everything is negative
5. When there's blood on the streets (not literally)  Cheesy

Thing here is that you do really make yourself not that confident on taking such action.Why? because we are really that afraid on doing so
because we do know that the price might even go way lower on the time that we had bought and this is the big hindrance.
1038  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: February 06, 2023, 09:40:04 PM
This is the first I've heard of ChatGPT being used to predict sports. That's funny. I know that animals have been used to predict sports events. Paul the octopus, for example. Paul has predicted football matches 14 times and he's only been wrong twice. So if you want to win at sports betting, get a pet. It will probably make you a lot more money than the AI.
On the time i had read up then i dont really believe at all but on the time i did make out some research then it did really happen.LOL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Octopus

I havent read up the entire  details on how predictions been made by this Octopus which it is surprising that it had been only wrong twice which is something
that proves out that it does work.

For ChatGPT then i doubt that there's someone would be posting up their results on using this thing.

I read Paul's wiki and was surprised about his divination getting 12 out of 14 is quite remarkable, especially since the animal is not exposed to data of the competing team.  I still wonder if it is just a coincidence but 12/14 obviously is not.

AI development today is not good enough for sports prediction or other gambling outcomes.  If you ask it, it will only give you a randomly generated answer.  So better not to trust AI prediction unless you are wasting your bankroll to test the reliability of AI in predicting the outcome of sports betting.

Even myself cant really be able to believe that an animal would be able to have 12/14 good predictions despite that it isnt really that something that you could believe that an animal would be able to do so.
For the current AI trend and hype that we do have now, surprisingly on which people been using it on different ways and methods even into those things which arent really quitely relevant for it to be used.
They would find it sooner or later on whats the relevance and whats the result or outcome on making use of these AI's when it comes to betting or simply make use in gambling.
I dont really see any relevance at all.
1039  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bye Bye Bear Market :) on: February 06, 2023, 08:18:32 PM
I don't know how bad the reality is to counter analysis, but I'm sure this bear market hasn't been completely removed.
At this point people will pleasantly believe that we are out of bearish market, And those set of people does make use of chart to examine the gravity of Bitcoin ratio of increment. I will not support the motion that we are out of bearish market, because i know too well that the market of cryptocurrency is unpredictable. So many people will conclude that we are out of the bearish market due to the little increment we experience early January, but it's obvious that Bitcoin regulations in price can occur negatively now and within some minutes it reverse to be positive.
People will become gods when the market becomes bullish and they speak as if the world belongs to them, they speak pearls of wisdom from their mouths to sway one another, whether this is bearish or bullish cannot be determined with such assumptions. But I think I agree with you because the recent price volatility is quite strange and quite extreme in my opinion, it seems that we haven't really been able to stay away from the bear phase in Q1 even though there has been a slight increase in bitcoin and altcoins.

All of the positivity and all of the confidence would really be seen for most people and telling that this is the start of the bull run on for some all time highs without even trying out to be realistic that this isnt how this market behaves or works.
Well its not surprising to have  these kind of impulsive approach and reactions on the time that we are seeing greens but exaggerating it too much is never been that appealing nor good.
It would really be creating that expectation and anticipation that it would surely happen and on the time that it did failed your expectation then you are really that ending up on getting annoyed or
disappointed.Therefore, further discouragement and stress would be there so its not really that ideal to have this kind of mindset.
1040  Economy / Economics / Re: Is taking a loan/debt addicted ? on: February 03, 2023, 08:35:37 PM
Well, I have to clarify that personally I have never had any loan or debt in my life so this thread has nothing to do with my experience but intends to find out how people in loan/debt deal with the problem. Let's say you take loans from a bank and sometimes for whatever reason, you can not pay the debt on time, then you borrow money from other channels. Sure this works for a certain period but later bad things may happen, you have to postpone the payment and struggle with finances again. Isn't this a vicious circle ? How would you deal with the problem ? I am all ears.

Taking a loan isn't addictive, it is that you take another loan to pay for your earlier loan and it go a cycle.  It isn't addiction but rather a circumstantial need to pay off earlier debt.  The only way to get out of this endless loop is to have extra earnings.  If you have lots of time, you can look for a side job.  Earning from this side job can help you greatly to get out of that endless debt cycle.  And be thrifty but not to the point you are harming your health.
Everything should be in balance specially when earning money.Yes, we could have multiple sources but we should also mind and prioritize our health too because we know that on the time that our body is ill
then it would be still useless since those money that you are earning would really be just going into hospitalization on which thi isnt something that we dont really like to happen.
Taking up some loans just to pay up another loan is something a very common scenario and even myself is really that able to experience this one because there are really moments in life
which you cant really be able to avoid to take up some loan just because you had been shorted out on your budget and some unexpected situations or  circumstances.
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