HOLY BLOCK. Been here since mid June and finally got a block for the pool!!!!!  407 391079 dsppage.SS7H 25.05412314 2015-12-31 06:29:01+00 +1 Confirms ~162,559,976,043 ~173.956% 0.824 1 Elapsed GH/S(5s) GH/S(avg) FoundBlocks LocalWork Utility WU BestShare 34m22s 5,289.61 5,228.26 1 4,197,996 18.51 73,072.54 189919365353 Funny that I just rebooted that miner 34 min ago finally... jk, no complaints. good job knocking that one out [ two years earlier than stats for that speed  ]. |
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There might be something there, but comparing different hash rate at different difficulty at different payout system makes it hard to pinpoint.
Different Difficulty = ~20% difference
Different Pools = ~2% difference
Different Hash Rate = makes the compare difficult to repond to.
the 5Nd looks stable over a few days but varies over the examples. using same "equipment" but not same hashrate.
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0.00036157 * 5 = 0.00180785 BTC @ 5N, @ 97 hrs
0.00180785 / 4.042 Days = 0.000447266 BTC/Day for 84GHs
put 85GHs in an online calculator and see what you can get.
edit: epic math fail on my part.
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Two example days, when I was mining with an S3. please note that I do not mine constantly, its a hobby, so I have picked two days when I'm sure I mined all day
18th nov
384195 18/Nov 19:04 24.82829424 329.586G 178hr 36m 31s 2.20PHs 0.00% 13.514M 90.27GHs 0.00101805
24th Dec
389909 24/Dec 02:59 25.39503317 469.643G 100hr 41m 17s 5.56PHs 0.00% 4.522M 53.58GHs 0.00024451
First thing I noticed is that on the 18th when the pool was only 2.2ph I got more that 4x the reward than I did on the 25th when the pool was 5.56ph, I can see and understand that as the pool gets larger my S3 is a smaller and smaller share of the total ph and so get I a smaller share of the total reward.
You say that you mine off and on, you picked two "days" that you mined all day, but did you mine the full 5N prior to those blocks you picked? The answer is no. If you look at your average hashrate for those two blocks you picked you will see the average rate for the first one was 90ghs the second was 53ghs, so my guess is that you mined for nearly 1.7x longer during the 5N of the first block. You can't compare blocks, you would need to compare something like a full week or month, and would need to mine for the same amount of time. The other pool you were using was probably PPS, and for short duration would appear to payout better, but if you looked at a longer timespan it will be less then you would be getting here (as long as our luck stays as good as it has been). Ditto. "You can't compare blocks, you would need to compare something like a full week or month, and would need to mine for the same amount of time." Looking only at the Your BTC columns between different payout is comparing apples to oranges. Although my favorite is BTC. The other two significant pieces you are overlooking there on the snapsot. N Range = can be seen almost like to as 5Nd. It will shink with pool speed. N Average = your avg hash over that range. Should equal your equipment speed. The S3 is OOB capable of ~440GHs theoretical. Samples showing N average at 90GHs and 53GHs. From your two sample points, 100 vs 178, rounding up to about 2x as fast payouts (kind of). 53 vs 90, rounding down to about 1/2 the effort (kind of). plus one difficulty adjustment that will drop profits by 18% (deciding factor). 1/4 of the BTC payout looks right. do a forum search for, ckpoolmonitor. if you want another view with better math than above. |
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I'm still learning how the luck/stats work for the amount of hash a pool has, but I figured there would be a few days where we would break the two block barrier since 1PH has been added to the pools hash rate...guess I still have a lot more to learn!
still a bit too soon for that. daily block magic hash number at this difficulty is 4646TH. 2,1,0 will be common. statistical daily two block hash is at about 9292TH. three will be very unlikely without being a little closer to that. i've seen, however, more chicken will offset these estimates by roughly 15%. |
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that last christmas block may have taken the site down with it. miner still humming along though.
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That's too straight forward. Let's use a straw analogy. Imagine fix hash rate + 5Nd is like a straw. Where the width is the hashrate and the water is the shares. As you suck water through the straw, You have the maximum average water (share) in the straw when it's full. If you have a bubble in there, your average will be deducted by the bubble until the bubble is sucked out.  you would then ask, how do i suck on the straw faster? only way for that is to lower the network difficulty.  |
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yeah just in time. looks like the avg time to hit block is working out. happy hour time ! i made it to full 5dn, then i left for abt a day, obviously it will drop back, but wheni'm back, it's supposed to go back up ?? rewards been dropping instead of going up again ? hmmmm confused As the pool hash rate goes up, the reward goes down (if you stay at the same hash rate). That plus you can't get your rate up until your missing days drop of 5Nd. best case is you can keep it from falling further. You can rent some hash also, if you do 100th for 8 hours, that will help get your shares up and maybe avg to your normal Th. I did that when I had 1/4 of my miners down for 2 days. Yea, there's that path available. Also as pool hash rate goes up, payout is less but more frequent, so it averages the same. If you keep your hash rate the same, you should have the same payout average (+ pool luck). All that being equal, expect the payout will drop with each difficulty adjustment, which happen a little while ago. |
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yeah just in time. looks like the avg time to hit block is working out. happy hour time ! i made it to full 5dn, then i left for abt a day, obviously it will drop back, but wheni'm back, it's supposed to go back up ?? rewards been dropping instead of going up again ? hmmmm confused As the pool hash rate goes up, the reward goes down (if you stay at the same hash rate). That plus you can't get your rate up until your missing days drop of 5Nd. best case is you can keep it from falling further. |
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Thank goodness for our old large miners. Thanks again guys... But see they are about half what they usually are.
Maybe they are getting frustrated with the last 3 work change stale block and no other results as well. Guess no one wants to talk about the elephant in the room. That this seems fishy...
luck swings one way, then the other. i'm sure many of us notice it feels odd, but are waiting for it to swing. |
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green  edit: had to triple check but woot woot. block looks healthy. |
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the elusive block is here. woot.
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the hash diff between the start of 5Nd and end, makes any forward estimate pretty grey. good point.
confirmations coming in. onward to the next block.
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cool wish list. kind of doubt it is possible, but worth asking.
with kano.is and solo.ckpool.org sharing the same code base,
in the future, is it possible to add to a ckpool -p (local middleman) the ability to split active hashing power to each pool?
configurable : 50/50, 80/20, etc. transparent to the src miner.
I think these are the settings you are looking for. Changing "url" to "quota" and specifying the amounts in the format "AMOUNT;URL". It makes it easier to use percents, but it isn't a requirement. For example you could use a quota of 8 for pool1 and 2 for pool2. ... "pools" : [ { "quota" : "80; http://pool1", "user" : "user1", "pass" : "123" }, { "quota" : "20; http://pool2", "user" : "user2", "pass" : "123" } ] , "load-balance" : true, ... (I just googled cgminer pool balance) thanks zOU. google my way thru ssh access to the cgminer conf on the unit. |
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cool wish list. kind of doubt it is possible, but worth asking.
with kano.is and solo.ckpool.org sharing the same code base,
in the future, is it possible to add to a ckpool -p (local middleman) the ability to split active hashing power to each pool?
configurable : 50/50, 80/20, etc. transparent to the src miner.
No. This is something you do at the miner end. Cgminer has had a multitude of failover/balancing/quota options for YEARS to do what you want. I suppose it can be solved with a better GUI. I might send bitmain a feature request.  |
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It was more in line for those of us with a single Antminer, S series with GUI and no shell.
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cool wish list. kind of doubt it is possible, but worth asking.
with kano.is and solo.ckpool.org sharing the same code base,
in the future, is it possible to add to a ckpool -p (local middleman) the ability to split active hashing power to each pool?
configurable : 50/50, 80/20, etc. transparent to the src miner.
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Based on the pool hash rate, easier to think hours. Just repeating what has been said with do it yourself formulas. Pools total block solving hash power in blocks per day = (rate * 86400 * 65535 / ( difficulty * 2^48 ) Hours to solve a block in Excel sheet for 5PH @ current difficulty "=24/(5000*1000*1000*1000*1000*86400*65535/(79102380900*POWER(2,48)))" 18.9 Hours. Lucky if pool average less than that over 5 blocks. Pay out is distributed over 5 blocks 20% each = 3.8 days excel formula :: "=5/(5000*1000*1000*1000*1000*86400*65535/(79102380900*POWER(2,48)))" One of these two number should show dynamically at the top If you hash continuously you will see PPS like number on the fifth solved block. If you stop you will get payout for through next 5 block, slowly diminishing, with the last one being 1/5 of the PPS. 20%,40%,60%,80%,100%,100%,100%.....(stop hashing), 80%, 60%, 40%, 20% |
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