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Only long shots will ever return this kind of profit in this time frame. It will be gambling pure and simple. You will likely lose the rest. I have been in a similar position although only with my own funds not borrowed from anyone else so the pressure was not as bad as it is for your right now. If you are not a troll and telling the truth of your plight. I now employ much less risky trading processes and have almost got back to square one although it has been a long annoying slog.
Best chance locate 3 good/so to be good alts that are under the radar and hope they move on to the radar in that time frame. I have my eye on 2 like this but they are high risk and I wouldn't feel comfortable recommending them at this point to someone in your position. It's all pretty much a guessing game although some clues can be found with enough searching around. The problem here like anywhere is the manipulation so even if you locate a real gem it is probably going to be held down whilst other less deserving projects take moonshots over and over.
What if I just buy someone's premine for 30 BTC and then try and go from there? Then just buy an altcoin from the koin kartel and run an ico and pull 1000 btc, this is your only alternative. You talk about "morals" but if you had any morals to begin with, you wouldn't have squandered your parents money lol I don't know if they'll have anything for you being that you only have 30 btc, but Lex is a cool guy. I'm sure you'll be able to bargain with him and work out a deal Or just use that 30 BTC to buy a revolver so that you can stick up all the local banks in your area. Practically the same thing as an altcoin presale... only you'll be at risk of getting disarmed by some bank's security personnel, tazered and beaten violently  An ico really is bank robbery 2.0. Virtual bank robbery ahaha I have sent them an email now. Just waiting to hear back from them, how long do they usually take to get back? |
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Do this, and this alone. It has nothing to do with bitcoin. But it will make you quite wealthy in short order.
Find an airport near you that has a Rolex Boutique. Go to that Boutique, and then buy 10 Rolex Datejust watches. They will all be duty free + you will get a severe discount because you're buying in bulk.
Now, here is where the magic happens.
Let's say each watch averages out at the price of $4,000 - this would be only £2,717 in GBP.
BUT, there is a uk based website known as Gumtree where I used to sell this exact model at £4,500 (sometimes higher.) Because all of my watches were brand new, still in the box, certificate, receipt etc so there was no haggling. Each and every person paid me my £4,500 even though I only spent $4,000 per watch (£2,717)
This is a £2,000 profit per watch. £2,000 * 10 = £20,000 ($29,434 usd) - a near 100% return per sale
Do this a few times before the end of the year and you'll have made your $90,000 in no time
All you need is an agent in the UK to conduct the sales. You're already in the dropshipping game, so this should be a simple thing. Or you can perhaps take a trip to the UK yourself stay there for the rest of the year, and let the money pile in
This is what I do professionally, but I am looking for something that isn't physical and doesn't involve me "jumping on a plane" and moving to london for 6 months with only 20 cents in my pocket. No thanks (but, good idea) Besides I only have 30 BTC this is $13,400 dollars. I'd only be able to purchase three units of those watches. Hardly a bulk order I am looking for something lightweight. Something crypto currency based that will alow me to monitor my investment from afar and generate a 10x return over the next month. This is critical 30btc -> simplefx -> long gold on max leverage right now.
This is gambling man I don't have any control on the price of gold. What if it goes down, then what will you say to me? lol No more gambling / trading for me. I need to do something where I have more control |
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Nobody can make 1000% in 2 months, not even the professional investors. Sell your losing alts, and get a job. Then perhaps you stand a chance of earning back the money you lost.
No one in my family has been an employee before, this isn't something that I'd be able to explore. I dont think I will earn enough to cover even my 5 year xbox live subscription with "a job." I have already sold out of all my positions, all I am holding onto is 30 BTC. I am writing this post while sitting in my car in the parking lot of walmart. My parents think I am out meeting with potential investors and new suppliers. Dude, if you are not trolling you need to get a grip. Listen vuduchyld, From Above and bathrobehero.
While there can be a fine line between investment, speculation and gambling, you are obviously just gambling with your money. That would be ok if it was money you could miss, but you decided to gamble away other people's money. Please stop telling yourself you are a savvy investor. In this thread you are almost asking to be scammed (" am desperate, give me tips to get unrealistic gains quickly" --> seriously dog? Prepare for the nigerian princes to start sending you personal messages about their favorite little coin). Stop throwing away the money of the people around you. The most likely scenario is that you will keep trying to weasel your way out of this mess, but end up completely broke. The chances of getting back that money are very slim, but since you are a degenerate gambler, you'll probably play those bad odds anyway. Please don't. Be a man and face reality before you hit the absolute rock bottom.
I don't know what impression you're getting of me but, believe me, it is the most reckless investors that make the most money. All that has happened here is I got a little too carried away and lost 90% of my holdings. This really isn't a big deal for me as I have done stuff like this in the past and each time I have bounced back... I am a member of 7 other investment based forums, I have pledged this question on all of them today and it seems this community is maybe the most negative 1000% returns are not impossible, I got more than this in 2013 with bitcoin/usd alone. What I am asking for today is for one of you wealthy lurkers that only have 4 posts that is reading this very post and laughing your ass off at my shambles of an investment career, to reveal your secrets and let me know how to generate a 10x return within the next month. That is all Its easy, create your own project with a nifty New age name, turn it into an ICO with a ton of promises about the future, usea ll that you have left to buy into your own ICO (dont worry you get all that BTC back) use the ICO money to pump your coin, while selling into the suckers that believe its gonna be the Next BTC.
Everyone keeps saying this, is it really that easy? Pump and dumping isn't your "thing." But getting dumped on is? It's not a secret, everyone does it You have lost more than 90 grand bruh all via trading other people's "shit coins." So, if you lost 90K, that means someone else MADE 90K  (the person who dumped his coins on you) and you are just one person, imagine how many other bozos lost their money in this fashion By trading you will only continue to lose. Take your 30 BTC, and buy a coin from koinkartel.com they'll pump the life out of it and you'll have your 300btcs in a month Stop bitching and complaining I second this Been there and done that. Once you start developing you'll never go back, it's a goldmine. Koinkartel is only an option if you dont know how to develop or have never released a currency before But if you can bootstrap some shit together yourself then by all means do it. It's the only way in all of crypto for you to turn 30 btc into 300 btc Last time I checked, they charge 58 btc for the full works. Maybe they'll give you a deal if you give them this sob story though lol I have just seen their video https://vimeo.com/160515653 it seems to me that it isn't actually pump and dump that they do, more market making stuff which is just a wall street term for pump and dump lol Will they service me even though I only have 30 btc? |
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Pump and dumping isn't your "thing." But getting dumped on is? It's not a secret, everyone does it You have lost more than 90 grand bruh all via trading other people's "shit coins." So, if you lost 90K, that means someone else MADE 90K (the person who dumped his coins on you) and you are just one person, imagine how many other bozos lost their money in this fashion By trading you will only continue to lose. Take your 30 BTC, and buy a coin from koinkartel.com they'll pump the life out of it and you'll have your 300btcs in a month Stop bitching and complaining I second this Been there and done that. Once you start developing you'll never go back, it's a goldmine. Koinkartel is only an option if you dont know how to develop or have never released a currency before But if you can bootstrap some shit together yourself then by all means do it. It's the only way in all of crypto for you to turn 30 btc into 300 btc Last time I checked, they charge 58 btc for the full works. Maybe they'll give you a deal if you give them this sob story though lol That's one thing where I will draw the line at. Pumping an dumping is not my thing, I have said that a few times already. Karmically I'm sure there'd be consequences. I am surprised that no one here has any solutions. All I have seen is 1) stop trading, join the pumpers 2) trade even more to make back your losses 3) it's impossible There must be some more solutions out there that you guys are holding out on Maybe you dont want to say it publicly, you can pm me if this is the case. If your idea makes sense, I can gain access to loads more money and maybe we can hit the market hard and see what happens I am in urgent need of assistance here, seriously. 30 BTC is not adequate enough for me, it is a mere 10% of what was lent to me and the time is coming now for me to deliver "returns" to my parents. 30 BTC is not enough, this is suicide money because it's better for me to jump off a bridge than to admit to these losses Today I made another fake journey to the post office, and the most disgusting thing about this is eventually I am going to run out of petty cash to pay for fuel for my car to continue making these fake journeys I drive around 12 hours a day all over the city so that my parents will think that business is booming Dire straits here guys, I need some of you wealthy lurkers to make some posts here and point me in the right direction NO i will no join the pumpers I will only engage in ethical ventures |
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You clearly stupid and spoiled so no not surprising that no one helps.
I am not spoiled man. The only reason my parents give me money is because they believe I'm an investment whizz. They dont give me money to splash, only to invest. if you was in possesion of that cash you would do opposite and probably you would have 120k instead of 90k.
You're right. I only have 30 btc left. Not exactly peasant territory, but I certainly can't say that I only have 30 btc to my name in public. My image would be destroyed, my investors will become disenchanted and my parents will lose all trust in me my ability to make money will be tainted somewhat Sorry. It's over for him and it will take a while to grasp that.
~CfA~
What do you get out of being so mean? It's never over, I have lost money in the past and bounced back and I am sure i can do it again. All I need is some helpfull pointers from you guys You're not investing anything, what you're doing is called gambling. If you gamble with money you can't afford to lose or you can't stop gambling then you have a problem.
Even if you were to magically turn that 30 BTC into 300, you'd fuck it up again eventually because you're completely lost touch with reality.
If you don't see that now then you might see it once you're life eventually hits rock bottom when all the lies uncover, people stop trusting you and you go broke.
Then you might realize your errors which will hopefully make you a better person or you'll keep being an irresponsible dumbass.
Investment is gambling Appreciate your opinion... harsh.. but not as harsh as what my family will say if I fail to return their money With this much money, you shouldn't be trading altcoins bro. You should be building them. Go to Koinkartel.com see if they'll accept your 30 BTC. That is your only option. 300 BTC is nothing compared to what you'll earn when you turn into a pump and dump cash monger Your saying that there is a difference between developing and trading an alt? How so? How do developers make their money and is it more or less than the amounts that traders/investors make? |
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I am only at my parents house now because I fucked up previously with purchasing $140K worth of bitcoin that I accidentally got sent to an address that was on the now defunct cryptorush exchange.
you seem to be loaded of cash anyway but you are unable to handle it, you should get someone to manage your finances and stop trading by yourself Do you know any investment managers that specialise in bitcoin/altcoins? I am not bad with money, most of the money I have made in the past came from me being a reckless idiot. But most of the money I have lost has also happened due to me being a reckless idiot too Pump and dumping isn't your "thing." But getting dumped on is? It's not a secret, everyone does it You have lost more than 90 grand bruh all via trading other people's "shit coins." So, if you lost 90K, that means someone else MADE 90K (the person who dumped his coins on you) and you are just one person, imagine how many other bozos lost their money in this fashion By trading you will only continue to lose. Take your 30 BTC, and buy a coin from koinkartel.com they'll pump the life out of it and you'll have your 300btcs in a month Stop bitching and complaining Interesting point, apart from your insults. I'm just a normal guy like everyone else here man... It really is alot for me to post all of this here I have morals and I don't think it's cool to "dump" on people I'm not sure where you live, but if you really think you need $110,000 in cash (plus $140K in inventory) to live, I'd start by re-thinking your lifestyle a little bit.
Frankly, I think that most people reading this post will not be predisposed to feeling very sorry for you. Your initial questions show just a little bit of a disconnect from the reality that most people face, which is to cut back on some expenses in order to invest/speculate in crypto. Most people don't even have parents that COULD POSSIBLY give them $90,000 in cash for any reason at all.
The post indicates that you might have some life lessons to learn. Seems like you might have already learned them, but fortunately or unfortunately, your parents have been massive enablers for you. I'd say either:
1) your parents are effin' ballers who have a shitpile of money and they will bail you out AGAIN just because they can
2) you really have exhausted all paths and you are just about to really learn those life lessons that you seem to need to learn
3) Quite possibly, your original post is some kind of parody and you are completely full of shit
But you are highly unlikely to turn 30 into 300. Just won't happen for you. Because you haven't faced much adversity, financially, you appear to have the ability to cling to a fantasy.
I hope this doesn't come off too harshly and I certainly hope for the best for you.
I have faced LOADS of adversity man. This dropshipping operation is the latest in a LOOONG line of businesses. You really don't understand the magnitutde of the situation. The only way I am able to exist as a human being, from a financial standpoint, is because I understand that investment comes before spending. So I have put myself in such an awkward position. I have four younger cousins that operate a physical electronics outlet.. supplied by whom??? You guessed it! Me. But... I am about 90K short of being able to supply myself let alone my family members who have built there lives around this operation. They have their apartments, cars etc. They don't even know that I'm back at my parents place. All of them dropped out of college to get involved with this If I don't turn this 30 BTC into 300 BTC before a months time, I might aswell drink cyanide man. It's that bad |
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Yes 1000% is exactly what I need to make in 2 months, or else I am fucked.
U're f'ed no matter what, cuz ur personality is flawed Work on urself. This thread won't help the slightest bit ~CfA~ I am an unconfident, slightly retarded speculator/investor/business man - so yes, my personality is flawed sometimes we lose money, that is business. If I had continued profiting, I'd have more than 200% on my money, I made more than 20% so I am a fearless investor... stupid, but fearless. Maybe too fearless And if I had a broken leg I'd NEED to get to a hospital. I don't have a broken leg... but I do have a broken investment fund, which means I need too make 1000% before july. Maybe some altcoin developers can reveal some secrets here? Find job in real life. It will be better, if you have some skills in programming. If you have them, you back your money very fast
My skills are in investment and business only. No programming, I dont know html even. I also get panic attacks when I am around too many people. So not practical for me 1. Take responsability for your actions and admit your failure.
2. Get on 1broker.com
3. Place a 50x margin short on the sp500 or dow jones index with all 30 btc NOW! (or bet on BTC going up)
4. Exit at 16% lower than it is now, you will have 300 btc by then it is also the maximum amount you can place.
The global economy is in turmoil, there is a high chance this will happen.
You can tip me BTC:
1PFVkhRdQsgGdCjbq2Pisg55rmwXd2kChT
I should fix my trading losses, by trading even more? You might be able to perform 200% or 400% in 6-12 months, but it's dependent on (1) you having a viscerally good understanding of the markets, and (2) you allowing for a component of risk (i.e further losses).
That's not entirely true, I mean he could just do what every other unscrupulous money hungry bastard does and purchase a ready made altcoin from koinkartel.com and let them pump and dump the hell out of it and make maybe 1000 btc Is this the secret of all you developers? Is that where you people go to produce your shitcoins? I have morals, I dont care If I'll make 1000 btc from them. Pump and dumping isn't my thing |
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You're not talking about making 2% profit in 1 year, you're talking about 1000% in 2 months...
Yes 1000% is exactly what I need to make in 2 months, or else I am fucked. I need $250,000 per year just to exist comfortably. That includes 1 year rent already paid, 1 year bills and all utilities already budgeted and paid for. Money for groceries for the full year and money for fuel and to make car payments. $20,000 disposable cash and $140,000 to put into purchasing inventory for my dropshipping business each year - so that I'll have another $250,000 the following year I am only at my parents house now because I fucked up previously with purchasing $140K worth of bitcoin that I accidentally got sent to an address that was on the now defunct cryptorush exchange. So this is not the first time I can't tell my parents or get a loan, those routes have been exhausted You say it's impossible, but that "impossibility" doesn't matter to me. I need to make 1000% on my money in two months. Or else im screwed Just tell them you're a fuck up and you squandered their 90 grand, what's the worse that could happen? LOL
I didn't squander it actually, and that is very harsh. I invested it and messed up a little and I initally made money, but got a little greedy now here I am You need to stop trading IMMEDIATELY that is for sure. You obviously don't know what you're doing. But at least you've got those 30 coins, that's like 13 grand. That's enough to move to a new city, change your name and "start all over again" Maybe you're right I have only lost money trading all these god damned altcoins I always start of making some ridiculously large amount like 50 btc but then losing an even larger amount like 100 btc so maybe you have a point there I cannot run away, my family have helped me so I must repay them. Even if I have no profit for the year, I will give it all to them I have just 30 BTC and I know there is a way for me to make 1000% because it seems many people here are doing just that |
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Hello people. I am in a bit of a pickle here and hope that some of you here can give me some simple investment advice.
First, my parents gave me $90,000 to purchase some inventory for my dropshipping operation. But, instead, I spent the whole thing on bitcoin. Made maybe 20% profit, and thats when things started to get a little "freaky" if you will.
As soon as I had 240 BTC in my possession I felt invincible, for some reason I thought that I could just go and buy any altcoin I wanted and make all the money that I desired.
My parents have been thinking that my dropshipping business is booming because I have bought a hundred empty boxes, filled them with bricks and sellotaped them. Every morning I make a fake trip to the post office so that they think that I am still on track like I am supposed to be.
Anyway.. I worked my 240 btc up to 300 btc by what I think was a fluke. I invested in some currency that we all know, but then the price began to drop. AND I KEPT BUYING
I sat there in my chair every day looking at the price fall, and like a fool I continued to buy. Now all I have is 30 btc which is merely 10% of the money my parents gave me.
I cant even use this money to buy and flip the latest mercedes sedan to make maybe $2k with each flip. So now, I'm stuck. The garage has 50 boxes with bricks inside them, and everyday my dad goes in there I feel like my secret will be uncovered and that will be IT for me.
I am supposed to return this 90K before July, so I am coming here for help and advice.
I want to know how can I turn 30 BTC into 300 BTC by ONLY doing these things:
1) Investing in crypto currencies
2) Not having to trade
3) Not having to spend too much time monitoring my investment (I have to pretend that my dropshipping business is still booming, so can't be in the house all day)
4) Not being a victim of pump and dump
Just throw out your ideas here and I'll see what sticks.
Guys, I am in urgent need of help here. If I don't give my parents their money back, they'll never give me money again and I'll have to get a job or something to fund my businesses. Which is impossible for me since I get panic attacks etc.
If I had just done the right thing, I would have doubled the 90K and be smiling right now. But instead, I played bitcoin roulette and fucked everything up
I will appreciate all of your contributions
thank you
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