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21  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Canadian university buckles and pays $20k in bitcoin to hackers on: June 09, 2016, 05:38:24 PM
give it a week and one of their own pupils will probably use the script to make the ransomware. load it onto his colleges servers and ransom the college himself

Bitcoin democratizes extortion, now even a child can extort his school!
I love you, Blockchain technology. Is there anything you can't do?! Smiley
22  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 09, 2016, 05:32:20 PM
Opt-in RBF fixes zero-fee transactions.

This what you're talking about?
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_replacement
TL;DR: the problem with beetcoin is not that the fees are high, but that you don't know if you have enough money with you to be able to get off the bus, because, unlike a bus, beetcoin doesn't ask for your fare to get on. It lets you on, but if you don't have enough change on you? Have fun riding the bus. For the rest of your life Smiley

That much is true.
I'm starting to feel as if you don't even care about the things I say anymore. Maybe we should stop seeing each other you should just put me on ignore?


You should just go to that thread and collect your reward Smiley
23  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 09, 2016, 05:06:43 PM
More excellent mass adoption news, everyone! Canadian university is interested in beetcoins!

Canadian university buckles and pays $20k in bitcoin to hackers
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The University of Calgary in Canada has paid just over $15,000 (CAD $20,000) to restore access to its computer systems following a ransomware attack.

Ransomware typically, as its name would suggest, prevents a victim from acessing their files and other services until demands had been met. In this case, that meant paying $15,000 to restore access to emails and other files.

It’s not the first time a company or organization has caved in and paid a ransomware demand -a hospital in the US paid $17,000 in bitcoin – but you have to wonder if making it public is a smart move.

Being seen as a ‘soft target’ will surely  invite further attacks and demands for payment, as has also been the case with that hospital.[...]
24  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can we still say that BTC transactions are faster? on: June 09, 2016, 04:48:36 PM
We're looking for fundamental differences between an uncleared check & unconfirmed bitcoin transaction.

Here are just a few that come immediately to mind.  There may be additional differences as well.

  • Although it is generally best not to do so, it is possible to spend unconfirmed bitcoins.  It is not typically possible to spend the money from an uncleared check.
  • It is quite easy to see in advance if it is extremely likely that an unconfirmed transaction will confirm.  It is typically very difficult to determine ahead of time if a check will clear.
  • It is relatively easy for the sender to remove funds from an account before a check clears, while it is quite difficult to successfully double-spend a properly formed bitcoin transaction
  • The properly formed bitcoin transaction will typically (more often than half the time) confirm in less than 10 minutes and rarely (if ever) take more than 120 minutes, while the uncleared check will take days to clear

A properly formed bitcoin transaction is much more analogous to a credit card transaction that has received approval from the processing company and has a valid looking signature on the receipt than to a check in the mail.

>Although it is generally best not to do so, it is possible to spend unconfirmed bitcoins.
Plz give me an example, because I want to do some serious double-spending via 0-fee tx.

>properly formed bitcoin transaction will typically (more often than half the time) confirm in less than 10 minutes
Only if the hashrate is going up. If the hashrate is constant, the average is exactly 10 minutes, because math.

>10 minutes and rarely (if ever) take more than 120 minutes
Can assure you, it happens. See thread linked above.
25  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can we still say that BTC transactions are faster? on: June 09, 2016, 03:31:05 PM
Not joking, explain the difference between me subscribing to a magazine and mailing a check, and your 0-confirm transactions. Penny Stock Weekly won't be able to spend the check I sent them until it clears, your trading partner won't be able to spend the unconfirmed transaction. Where's the difference?
So you're saying the following:
  • Double-spending a TX is easy and can be done by anyone
  • It takes the same amount of time for a unconfirmed TX to get confirmed as it takes a check to be cleared.
Neither one is true.

I'm asking you to explain the difference between an unconfirmed transaction and a check in the mail (which hasn't cleared). I can rephrase the question again, if you wish.
To put this back in context:
Wrong. Transaction time is: ~1-3 seconds. Confirmation time is: ~10 Minutes.
Dropping a check in the mail is ~1-3 seconds too. Of course, the recipient won't be able to spend the money until the check clears, but that's no different from your unconfirmed transaction.
edit: Yes, a check takes longer than 10 minutes to clear, though 10 minutes is far longer than "~1-3 seconds." Speed of BTC confirms is a different topic. We're looking for fundamental differences between an uncleared check & unconfirmed bitcoin transaction.

Update: I'm not going to waste more time on you. plz no!!
26  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can we still say that BTC transactions are faster? on: June 09, 2016, 03:22:31 PM
So you agree, bitcoin's fast, like checks in the mail?  or?
Stop with the false analogies. Bitcoin is faster than anything available from the traditional system.
Not joking, explain the difference between me subscribing to a magazine and mailing a check, and your 0-confirm transactions. Penny Stock Weekly won't be able to spend the check I sent them until it clears, your trading partner won't be able to spend the unconfirmed transaction. Where's the difference?
using blockchain.info still can spend an unconfirmed balance in the old version, don't know with the latest blockchain.info version but once the balance confirmed,the bitcoin which has been spent will get confirmed too and it doesn't take too many time sometimes

So I can send myself money with 0tx fee, spend it from the recipient wallet, and, when it fails to confirm and comes back, like it would likely do here:


Dont know will takes how long the transaction will get confirm or will get rejected.


If you're asking us how long it will take for the transaction to be added to a block: nobody knows... It can happen 10 seconds from now, or it can take several days (or more).
It's all pure luck. A miner decides which transactions he'll put in the block he's mining. He might chose your transaction, or he might chose somebody else's... A lot of times, miners chose the transactions with the highest fee per byte, some of them do make exceptions tough. Maybe one of the pool operators takes pitty and adds your transaction out of kindness, you never know Wink

Good luck!

The future is finally here.

...I can rinse and repeat? That's so cool!
27  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can we still say that BTC transactions are faster? on: June 09, 2016, 03:11:45 PM
So you agree, bitcoin's fast, like checks in the mail?  or?
Stop with the false analogies. Bitcoin is faster than anything available from the traditional system.
Not joking, explain the difference between me subscribing to a magazine and mailing a check, and your 0-confirm transactions. Penny Stock Weekly won't be able to spend the check I sent them until it clears, your trading partner won't be able to spend the unconfirmed transaction. Where's the difference?
28  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can we still say that BTC transactions are faster? on: June 09, 2016, 03:05:39 PM
Dropping a check in the mail is ~1-3 seconds too. Of course, the recipient won't be able to spend the money until the check clears, but that's no different from your unconfirmed transaction.
Who says that you have to be able to spend that money instantly? I've used a lot of services which delivered the expected goods as soon as the TX arrived at their destination. You're comparing apples and tomatoes.

So you agree, bitcoin's fast, like checks in the mail?
or?
29  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can we still say that BTC transactions are faster? on: June 09, 2016, 03:00:33 PM
Wrong. Transaction time is: ~1-3 seconds. Confirmation time is: ~10 Minutes.
Dropping a check in the mail is ~1-3 seconds too. Of course, the recipient won't be able to spend the money until the check clears, but that's no different from your unconfirmed transaction.
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The DAO dumpers behind the price rise! on: June 09, 2016, 02:55:18 PM
I don't think anyone's dumping, OP.
http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/the-dao/
31  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 09, 2016, 02:08:33 PM
I do wonder why big mining pools just don't give an option like hey for all those people who tried to get on a bus without paying the fare send us your transaction ID (tell us where you are) and pay fees (fine) to this new address and we'll try to include your non paying butt on the next bus we run

Should put an end to all these stupid posts. Oh you didn't want to pay for the ticket? Well go to this site to pay your $0.25 fine and it should be included in the next block they mine
This what you're talking about?
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_replacement
TL;DR: the problem with beetcoin is not that the fees are high, but that you don't know if you have enough money with you to be able to get off the bus, because, unlike a bus, beetcoin doesn't ask for your fare to get on. It lets you on, but if you don't have enough change on you? Have fun riding the bus. For the rest of your life Smiley

I am surprised that blockchain.info allows 0 fee transaction at all or at least without popping up a bunch or red warnings. That's the bus companies (wallets) fault, not surprised as i haven't heard anything good about their wallet for a while. You're trolling too hard transaction will eventually expire out of mempool but you probably already knew that (if you tried to get in without paying you might be stuck on the bus until they take you to the police station)

I honestly don't care whose fault it is, Satoshi's, God's, or Blockchain.info's, only care about the product. And the product is subpar, dangerous for the dregs of humanity who ain't well-versed in teh arcana of blogchain technology.
BTW, Are you implying that it's my tx, as in I'm this beetcoin tapeworm lady?

Also, why is the price dropping like that? Shocked Is that normal Huh
32  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 09, 2016, 01:54:11 PM
I feel like in the next few days we'll either have to continue going up or start to fall hard.
Let's hope for all us of that it continues going back up.
ETH will bounce around some more, but i wouldn't expect much more then +30% it feels toppy already.
Coin that went up 1,100% Shocked since Jan. 1
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BTC on the other hand has plenty of room to grow. +100-300% in the coming year for bitcoin, wouldn't surprise me.
Coin that went up less than 50% since Jan. 1
Roll Eyes
@gogodr: Worst pone ever.
33  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 09, 2016, 01:48:01 PM
I do wonder why big mining pools just don't give an option like hey for all those people who tried to get on a bus without paying the fare send us your transaction ID (tell us where you are) and pay fees (fine) to this new address and we'll try to include your non paying butt on the next bus we run

Should put an end to all these stupid posts. Oh you didn't want to pay for the ticket? Well go to this site to pay your $0.25 fine and it should be included in the next block they mine
This what you're talking about?
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_replacement
TL;DR: the problem with beetcoin is not that the fees are high, but that you don't know if you have enough money with you to be able to get off the bus, because, unlike a bus, beetcoin doesn't ask for your fare to get on. It lets you on, but if you don't have enough change on you? Have fun riding the bus. For the rest of your life Smiley
34  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 09, 2016, 01:35:06 PM
Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?HuhHuh
I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab Sad

@AZwarel, I agree. Bitcoin is not for womens, so not for (slightly more than) 50% of the human race. Right off the bat. It's also not for children, or OldPeople, or stupid people.
Currency of the future Smiley

Yeah i know it sounds very primitive. But, i am a scientist, i only look for the facts, and numbers, without social bullshit. There must be a very basic non biased reason why 99% of the bitcoin user/investor/developer community is made up of 20-45 human males.

I am not biased against "women bitcoining" -and it absolutely wouldn't matter what i think -, THEY themselves are. I mean, the blockchain does not care if you are an alien dog from the future, so there can not be any reason why women do not use/study bitcoin other patriarchy than they do not want to. So i just made a statistically relevant and probable observation about the equation women+bitcoin= 99% likely fubar.

Look, I don't care if you're biased against women, Jews, lardos, blacks, cripples, queers, Azhuns, whatever. It's not about being PC.
The point is *money is supposed to work for all of them, or it's useless.*

How do you know i am not a women myself? Logic has no sex Smiley

Yeah, i just added an edit, thinking over again made obvious for me my own mistake Smiley Alas, i assume since bitcoin is a very high risk field, and males are in general tend to take higher risk as comfortable, that might be a good explanation why the male/female user ratio is as it is. Also, mathematics. :-D

Also, in general any new tech is first used by males disproportionally high, like, since fire?

I'm not arguing that human females are as smart as you. All I'm saying is that money has to work for them, and money that doesn't work for them is a frickin' failure, not money. Why doe this even need to be said?
35  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 09, 2016, 01:19:03 PM
Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?HuhHuh
I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab Sad

@AZwarel, I agree. Bitcoin is not for womens, so not for (slightly more than) 50% of the human race. Right off the bat. It's also not for children, or OldPeople, or stupid people.
Currency of the future Smiley

Yeah i know it sounds very primitive. But, i am a scientist, i only look for the facts, and numbers, without social bullshit. There must be a very basic non biased reason why 99% of the bitcoin user/investor/developer community is made up of 20-45 human males.

I am not biased against "women bitcoining" -and it absolutely wouldn't matter what i think -, THEY themselves are. I mean, the blockchain does not care if you are an alien dog from the future, so there can not be any reason why women do not use/study bitcoin other patriarchy than they do not want to. So i just made a statistically relevant and probable observation about the equation women+bitcoin= 99% likely fubar.

Look, I don't care if you're biased against women, Jews, lardos, blacks, cripples, queers, Azhuns, whatever. It's not about being PC.
The point is *money is supposed to work for all of them, or it's useless.*
It's OK if your new heavy tank doesn't have a tampon dispenser, but money which is too complicated for women is shit. The point of money is making commerce frictionless, so money which excludes most of mankind is *shit money*.
36  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 09, 2016, 01:14:11 PM
Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?HuhHuh
I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab Sad

Ahh cute analogy almost convinced me too, if not for AZwarel post above  Roll Eyes but that's ok don't let that discourage your little heart. You just keep on trying.

The damn bus system is completely rigged though WTF bus driver wants me to pay when i get on?? Let's both get on bus forum and troll them to death who da f*ck they think they are!?!
That's right, I conspired with that shameless beetcoin hussy.
She's one of our sleeper agents, infiltrated beetcoin years ago and came up through the ranks, and when y'all finally accepted her as one of your own, BLAMO!



Enemies, infiltrators and saboteurs EVERYWHERE!
37  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 09, 2016, 01:01:28 PM
Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?HuhHuh
I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab Sad

@AZwarel, I agree. Bitcoin is not for womens, so not for (slightly more than) 50% of the human race. Right off the bat. It's also not for children, or OldPeople, or stupid people.
Currency of the future Smiley
38  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 09, 2016, 12:52:48 PM
The future is finally here.
Of course, it is. People must finally understand that blockchain space is a limited and valuable resource. You have to compete to get included. And compete even more to get included fast!

I can not believe these stories about transactions going unconfirmed for days. Bullshit.

1. Go to the linked thread
2. Help human female
3. Get your reward
4. PR0FIT!
Smiley
39  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 09, 2016, 12:34:09 PM
The future is finally here.
Of course, it is. People must finally understand that blockchain space is a limited and valuable resource. You have to compete to get included. And compete even more to get included fast!

I just enjoy watching her begging and learning her valuable lesson.
That's right, beg! Tell me how much you need that tx.
Look at me! LOOK AT ME, I said LOOK AT ME when you beg!
40  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 09, 2016, 11:51:57 AM


Dont know will takes how long the transaction will get confirm or will get rejected.


If you're asking us how long it will take for the transaction to be added to a block: nobody knows... It can happen 10 seconds from now, or it can take several days (or more).
It's all pure luck. A miner decides which transactions he'll put in the block he's mining. He might chose your transaction, or he might chose somebody else's... A lot of times, miners chose the transactions with the highest fee per byte, some of them do make exceptions tough. Maybe one of the pool operators takes pitty and adds your transaction out of kindness, you never know Wink

Good luck!

The future is finally here.
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