Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[Karartma1]

I don't believe in oracles that much but I don't think what you posted is oracle-related. It is indeed reality-related, it is related to facts. If people will start recognizing the true lie they live in, oh man, what a fun!
And then popcorns

[DonQuijote]

lol
Willy, come with us!

Where can i use futures?? btc-e?

[savetherainforest]

So ... Look :



In the 2-3 weeks to 1 month it is safe to assume if you sell somewhere between $900 < - > 1500$ ... you will be able to buy back in at a price somewhere around $800.

[DaRude]

I don't believe in oracles that much but I don't think what you posted is oracle-related. It is indeed reality-related, it is related to facts. If people will start recognizing the true lie they live in, oh man, what a fun!
And then popcorns

Did someone say orcas? Ohh neverminf

[Assmaster2000]

Dont know will takes how long the transaction will get confirm or will get rejected.

If you're asking us how long it will take for the transaction to be added to a block: nobody knows... It can happen 10 seconds from now, or it can take several days (or more).
It's all pure luck. A miner decides which transactions he'll put in the block he's mining. He might chose your transaction, or he might chose somebody else's... A lot of times, miners chose the transactions with the highest fee per byte, some of them do make exceptions tough. Maybe one of the pool operators takes pitty and adds your transaction out of kindness, you never know

Good luck!

The future is finally here.

[becoin]

The future is finally here.

Of course, it is. People must finally understand that blockchain space is a limited and valuable resource. You have to compete to get included. And compete even more to get included fast!

[Assmaster2000]

The future is finally here.

Of course, it is. People must finally understand that blockchain space is a limited and valuable resource. You have to compete to get included. And compete even more to get included fast!

I just enjoy watching her begging and learning her valuable lesson.
That's right, beg! Tell me how much you need that tx.
Look at me! LOOK AT ME, I said LOOK AT ME when you beg!

[AZwarel]

The future is finally here.

Of course, it is. People must finally understand that blockchain space is a limited and valuable resource. You have to compete to get included. And compete even more to get included fast!

I can not believe these stories about transactions going unconfirmed for days. Bullshit. Very unlikely (like less than 0.0001% chance). I never had a transaction which did not get included at the next block, ever - of course i let my wallet software calculate the actual fee pressure and pay it, still highest fee ever paid was 0,0005, when the backlog was like 10k+ transactions, still got in the first block, np.

Even if they send a zero fee transaction, they will be included in hours, from one of those "lucky block streaks". Also, bitcoins can not be in a limbo. They are either at the original address until moved in a BLOCK, or at the new address after included in a BLOCK. If these mythical "2 days in limbo" are real, they just have to import the WIF to another wallet (or resend if the wallet has that option), and resend the same transaction with more (or non-zero) fees, the miners will accept, since the bitcoins are still at the original address when checked on the blockchain (coins are "on blockchain", not in the wallet software "it is known!") the old address until confirmed in a block not to be).

This "problem" is a FUD, any technically knowledgeable person will laugh on it...ps.: my message to these unicorn people: use a proper wallet with fee adjustment, and do not be a super cheap whiner on a 0.04$-0.08$ cost...

EDIT: some actual math: for 2 days without confirmation, someone needs to show me a 48 hours period with an average of 288 consecutive blocks, which are: all 100% full, with EVERY SINGLE transaction above the minimum 0,0001 fee paid. Come unicorns, show me such a period. They can not, that's why it is either BS, or they actually did not send the transaction (broken SVP maybe?) to the network, but too dumb to check if it is in the MemPool...

[Assmaster2000]

The future is finally here.

Of course, it is. People must finally understand that blockchain space is a limited and valuable resource. You have to compete to get included. And compete even more to get included fast!

I can not believe these stories about transactions going unconfirmed for days. Bullshit.

1. Go to the linked thread
2. Help human female
3. Get your reward
4. PR0FIT!

[DaRude]

The future is finally here.

Of course, it is. People must finally understand that blockchain space is a limited and valuable resource. You have to compete to get included. And compete even more to get included fast!

I can not believe these stories about transactions going unconfirmed for days. Bullshit. Very unlikely (like less than 0.0001% chance). I never had a transaction which did not get included at the next block, ever - of course i let my wallet software calculate the actual fee pressure and pay it, still highest fee ever paid was 0,0005, when the backlog was like 10k+ transactions, still got in the first block, np.

Even if they send a zero fee transaction, they will be included in hours, from one of those "lucky block streaks". Also, bitcoins can not be in a limbo. They are either at the original address until moved in a BLOCK, or at the new address after included in a BLOCK. If these mythical "2 days in limbo" are real, they just have to import the WIF to another wallet (or resend if the wallet has that option), and resend the same transaction with more (or non-zero) fees, the miners will accept, since the bitcoins are still at the original address when checked on the blockchain (coins are "on blockchain", not in the wallet software "it is known!") the old address until confirmed in a block not to be).

This "problem" is a FUD, any technically knowledgeable person will laugh on it...ps.: my message to these unicorn people: use a proper wallet with fee adjustment, and do not be a super cheap whiner on a 0.04$-0.08$ cost...

EDIT: some actual math: for 2 days without confirmation, someone needs to show me a 48 hours period with an average of 288 consecutive blocks, which are: all 100% full, with EVERY SINGLE transaction above the minimum 0,0001 fee paid. Come unicorns, show me such a period. They can not, that's why it is either BS, or they actually did not send the transaction (broken SVP maybe?) to the network, but too dumb to check if it is in the MemPool...

Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has picked me up!!! WHAT DO I DO?

I also been sitting in front of western union for those 5 days asking them to transfer my money to someone else for $0.25 (that's like 5x what i'd pay in BTC fees) they're also yet to accept me. Any advise??

[AZwarel]

The future is finally here.

Of course, it is. People must finally understand that blockchain space is a limited and valuable resource. You have to compete to get included. And compete even more to get included fast!

I can not believe these stories about transactions going unconfirmed for days. Bullshit.

1. Go to the linked thread
2. Help human female
3. Get your reward
4. PR0FIT!

This might sounds very rude and non PC but.."ahh a female stuck with technology..no additional questions.."

EDIT:
This is the supposed stucked tx OP: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1504451.msg15135208#msg15135208
(mind that she actually included all information to backtrack her address information on a public forum which is..meh)
This is the actual transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9

OFC, zero fees. And the tx id receive time is 2016-06-08 02:33:13, that was not 2 days ago...
I smell BS.

[Assmaster2000]

Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?

I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab

@AZwarel, I agree. Bitcoin is not for womens, so not for (slightly more than) 50% of the human race. Right off the bat. It's also not for children, or OldPeople, or stupid people.
Currency of the future

[DaRude]

Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?

I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab

Ahh cute analogy almost convinced me too, if not for AZwarel post above   but that's ok don't let that discourage your little heart. You just keep on trying.

The damn bus system is completely rigged though WTF bus driver wants me to pay when i get on?? Let's both get on bus forum and troll them to death who da f*ck they think they are!?! Subways, trolleys, and don't get me started on those damn airplanes 

[AZwarel]

Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?

I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab

@AZwarel, I agree. Bitcoin is not for womens, so not for (slightly more than) 50% of the human race. Right off the bat. It's also not for children, or OldPeople, or stupid people.
Currency of the future

Yeah i know it sounds very non-pc. But, i am a scientist, i only look for the facts, and numbers, my care for social bullshit is zero. There must be a very basic non biased reason why 99% of the bitcoin user/investor/developer community is made up of 20-45 human males.

I am not biased against "women bitcoining" -and it absolutely wouldn't matter what i think -, THEY themselves are. I mean, the blockchain does not care if you are an alien dog from the future, so there can not be any reason why women do not use/study bitcoin other patriarchy than they do not want to. So i just made a statistically relevant and probable observation about the equation women+bitcoin= 99% likely fubar.

EDIT: now that i think about it, i trapped myself ion confirmation bias. 99,99% of the male population does not care about bitcoin as well. So the male/female ratio in bitcoin usage does not really matter, from a random n sample it is just as likely to get a male or female 99% who knows nothing about bitcoin.

[Assmaster2000]

Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?

I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab

Ahh cute analogy almost convinced me too, if not for AZwarel post above   but that's ok don't let that discourage your little heart. You just keep on trying.

The damn bus system is completely rigged though WTF bus driver wants me to pay when i get on?? Let's both get on bus forum and troll them to death who da f*ck they think they are!?!

That's right, I conspired with that shameless beetcoin hussy.
She's one of our sleeper agents, infiltrated beetcoin years ago and came up through the ranks, and when y'all finally accepted her as one of your own, BLAMO!



Enemies, infiltrators and saboteurs EVERYWHERE!

[Assmaster2000]

Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?

I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab

@AZwarel, I agree. Bitcoin is not for womens, so not for (slightly more than) 50% of the human race. Right off the bat. It's also not for children, or OldPeople, or stupid people.
Currency of the future

Yeah i know it sounds very primitive. But, i am a scientist, i only look for the facts, and numbers, without social bullshit. There must be a very basic non biased reason why 99% of the bitcoin user/investor/developer community is made up of 20-45 human males.

I am not biased against "women bitcoining" -and it absolutely wouldn't matter what i think -, THEY themselves are. I mean, the blockchain does not care if you are an alien dog from the future, so there can not be any reason why women do not use/study bitcoin other patriarchy than they do not want to. So i just made a statistically relevant and probable observation about the equation women+bitcoin= 99% likely fubar.

Look, I don't care if you're biased against women, Jews, lardos, blacks, cripples, queers, Azhuns, whatever. It's not about being PC.
The point is *money is supposed to work for all of them, or it's useless.*
It's OK if your new heavy tank doesn't have a tampon dispenser, but money which is too complicated for women is shit. The point of money is making commerce frictionless, so money which excludes most of mankind is *shit money*.

[AZwarel]

Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?

I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab

@AZwarel, I agree. Bitcoin is not for womens, so not for (slightly more than) 50% of the human race. Right off the bat. It's also not for children, or OldPeople, or stupid people.
Currency of the future

Yeah i know it sounds very primitive. But, i am a scientist, i only look for the facts, and numbers, without social bullshit. There must be a very basic non biased reason why 99% of the bitcoin user/investor/developer community is made up of 20-45 human males.

I am not biased against "women bitcoining" -and it absolutely wouldn't matter what i think -, THEY themselves are. I mean, the blockchain does not care if you are an alien dog from the future, so there can not be any reason why women do not use/study bitcoin other patriarchy than they do not want to. So i just made a statistically relevant and probable observation about the equation women+bitcoin= 99% likely fubar.

Look, I don't care if you're biased against women, Jews, lardos, blacks, cripples, queers, Azhuns, whatever. It's not about being PC.
The point is *money is supposed to work for all of them, or it's useless.*

How do you know i am not a women myself? Logic has no sex

Yeah, i just added an edit, thinking over again made obvious for me my own mistake Alas, i assume since bitcoin is a very high risk field, and males are in general tend to take higher risk as comfortable, that might be a good explanation why the male/female user ratio is as it is. Also, mathematics. :-D

Also, in general any new tech is first used by males disproportionally high, like, since fire?

[DaRude]

The future is finally here.

Of course, it is. People must finally understand that blockchain space is a limited and valuable resource. You have to compete to get included. And compete even more to get included fast!

I can not believe these stories about transactions going unconfirmed for days. Bullshit. Very unlikely (like less than 0.0001% chance). I never had a transaction which did not get included at the next block, ever - of course i let my wallet software calculate the actual fee pressure and pay it, still highest fee ever paid was 0,0005, when the backlog was like 10k+ transactions, still got in the first block, np.

Even if they send a zero fee transaction, they will be included in hours, from one of those "lucky block streaks". Also, bitcoins can not be in a limbo. They are either at the original address until moved in a BLOCK, or at the new address after included in a BLOCK. If these mythical "2 days in limbo" are real, they just have to import the WIF to another wallet (or resend if the wallet has that option), and resend the same transaction with more (or non-zero) fees, the miners will accept, since the bitcoins are still at the original address when checked on the blockchain (coins are "on blockchain", not in the wallet software "it is known!") the old address until confirmed in a block not to be).

This "problem" is a FUD, any technically knowledgeable person will laugh on it...ps.: my message to these unicorn people: use a proper wallet with fee adjustment, and do not be a super cheap whiner on a 0.04$-0.08$ cost...

EDIT: some actual math: for 2 days without confirmation, someone needs to show me a 48 hours period with an average of 288 consecutive blocks, which are: all 100% full, with EVERY SINGLE transaction above the minimum 0,0001 fee paid. Come unicorns, show me such a period. They can not, that's why it is either BS, or they actually did not send the transaction (broken SVP maybe?) to the network, but too dumb to check if it is in the MemPool...

Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has picked me up!!! WHAT DO I DO?

I also been sitting in front of western union for those 5 days asking them to transfer my money to someone else for $0.25 (that's like 5x what i'd pay in BTC fees) they're also yet to accept me. Any advise??

I do wonder why big mining pools just don't give an option like hey for all those people who tried to get on a bus without paying the fare send us your transaction ID (tell us where you are) and pay fees (fine) to this new address and we'll try to include your non paying butt on the next bus we run

Should put an end to all these stupid posts. Oh you didn't want to pay for the ticket? Well go to this site to pay your $0.25 fine and it should be included in the next block they mine

[Assmaster2000]

Please help i've been stuck here for 5 days, i keep offering $1 to get in a taxi but so far no one has let me in!!! WHAT DO I DO?

I like your taxi analogy, only you don't pay taxis in advance -- you pay when you get out. Turns out she forgot her purse, doesn't have the fare cabby wants her to pay, and the cabby won't let her out without paying. So she's gonna live out her days in the back of the cab

@AZwarel, I agree. Bitcoin is not for womens, so not for (slightly more than) 50% of the human race. Right off the bat. It's also not for children, or OldPeople, or stupid people.
Currency of the future

Yeah i know it sounds very primitive. But, i am a scientist, i only look for the facts, and numbers, without social bullshit. There must be a very basic non biased reason why 99% of the bitcoin user/investor/developer community is made up of 20-45 human males.

I am not biased against "women bitcoining" -and it absolutely wouldn't matter what i think -, THEY themselves are. I mean, the blockchain does not care if you are an alien dog from the future, so there can not be any reason why women do not use/study bitcoin other patriarchy than they do not want to. So i just made a statistically relevant and probable observation about the equation women+bitcoin= 99% likely fubar.

Look, I don't care if you're biased against women, Jews, lardos, blacks, cripples, queers, Azhuns, whatever. It's not about being PC.
The point is *money is supposed to work for all of them, or it's useless.*

How do you know i am not a women myself? Logic has no sex

Yeah, i just added an edit, thinking over again made obvious for me my own mistake Alas, i assume since bitcoin is a very high risk field, and males are in general tend to take higher risk as comfortable, that might be a good explanation why the male/female user ratio is as it is. Also, mathematics. :-D

Also, in general any new tech is first used by males disproportionally high, like, since fire?

I'm not arguing that human females are as smart as you. All I'm saying is that money has to work for them, and money that doesn't work for them is a frickin' failure, not money. Why doe this even need to be said?

[gogodr]

I feel like in the next few days we'll either have to continue going up or start to fall hard.
Let's hope for all us of that it continues going back up.