c´est un réel projet ne soyez pas dur  Si c'est toi le créateur tu perds ton temps. Les country-coins ça intéresse pas et c'est inutile vu qu'on a déjà le Bitcoin. |
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Pourquoi ce thread est encore vivant ?
Vous pouvez pas juste l'ignorer au lieu de lui donner de l'attention ?
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Maybe one day i will have a working wallet so i can give back the IOTA to some people. But no, i can't, because i need other people node's IP. To bad people share that on Slack.
If you'd like to give the iotas back, I'll share my IP with you here and so will some others. Else if you want nothing to do with it anymore you could give the seeds to a trusted member and tell him where to send how many iotas. It's my backup plan if can't make it work. But i would have to wait for an exchange because there is my personal iota there too. And the trusted member will be yassin since he is the only one i trust here. |
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And i didn't speak in the slack for month so how could you warn me about anything ?
Generally I keep out of these kind of discussions, but in this case I will post my point of view on this issue. First of I want to note that I do appreciate the escrow service you provided to the community. Also I have nothing personally against you and I am sure you did not mean to come across as a troll, but at times your attitude did not come over as very positive. Regarding the above quote, you where not very active on slack, that would have been true. But You did post from time to time, and it often was borderline trolling. Last time was on the 28th, which is still in history: http://imgur.com/a/6hjfLIf you take look at what you wrote, you might notice that it was not a very positive conversation. I will quote and comment on your slack posts: the guy i hold iota for is tired of waiting
and i'm tired of having iotas No working wallet First of, you made a wrong statement. Iota has a working wallet (Nostalgia). Its not super user friendly, but there are many tutorials and its very well funktional. Secondly, stating that you are tiered of Iota dose not come across very positive. last i ask for help i didn't received it Not sure where or when you asked, but in general every one gets helped if they ask in slack. I also PMed you after I saw this comment and offered you to help. But you never answered my PM, btw. In reply to that,dom sad if you need help you can ask now. And your reply was: No i'm doing a fresh install on VM. I will not waste (more of) my time to try to resolve my previous problem This is really not a friendly way of declining an offer to help. To me that came across very rude. Fore me that is borderline trolling. But just borderline as I presume it was not your intention to come across as you did. And that was not the only inzident that you where a bit offending. So that David PMed you, confronting you with that, is IMO not wrong at all. And if you would have just clearly and friendly sad that it was not your intend to troll, but that is was meant to be neutral statement, I am sure this would not have endet in drama. @Those that don't understand why this drama always happens:In the case of the seccour banning, you might want to read above to see the story how I see it. Different perspectives of a situation are always good for the bigger picture IMO. So why always all this drama? Iota slack is a place where rude comments are not accepted at all. Or comments that are just negative and in no way productive. Imagine being in a room With Google CEO and people alike. Trolling, or offensive attitude will not be seen there, and if it is, be sure that that person won't enjoy the luxury of hanging out with the CEO much longer. Be friendly and constructive, and you will NEVER get in to a problem with the Iota team. As a matter of a fact, it isn't to long ago that I had some critic/doubts about the iota project. So I told David stuff that bothered me (in a friendly way)...and got a very professional answer, that solved my issue I had. Reason I mention this is because many here just see the fights and might get a wrong impression. Again, if you are friendly/Constructive you will never get any problems with the Iota team! I didn't even bother taking dom help the 28 because the last time i was in need of his help he didn't even care helping me, same for Cfb and i did ask multiple times. I didn't answer to your PM because at the time you send it i was doing something else and didn't have time to solve my problem that i have for months now. If you think it's trolling you should look at the definition. I was just tired of that shit because every time i try to install that wallet or to make it work it doesn't. And when weeks or months ago i was asking multiple times for help about the error i was getting they didn't even bother helping me. So why would i even speak in a positive way ? Since when i do, no one help ? It wasn't a wrong statement since i was speaking about myself. And i didn't care about being rude because they were when i was asking for it. And David PMing about it is wrong because it wasn't even concerning him ? Do i have to refer or explain all my statement to David ? Yeah i didn't welcome his PM in a friendly way because the first thing he did before sending me the PM was accusing me of being a troll here on bitcointalk. Without even asking for an explanation of my comment in PM before. And no it would have not end the drama because as his post on bitcointalk prove it, he didn't even try to ask for explanation, he was sure that i was a troll. Just look his first PM : "So did you finally decide to out yourself as a troll ?" - The finally say it all. That was his opinion about me. " Be friendly and constructive, and you will NEVER get in to a problem with the Iota team. " - I know some people that were friendly and constructive and got into troubles. " As a matter of a fact, it isn't to long ago that I had some critic/doubts about the iota project. So I told David stuff that bothered me (in a friendly way)...and got a very professional answer, that solved my issue I had. Reason I mention this is because many here just see the fights and might get a wrong impression. " - Good for you. You did that in public or PM ? Because one word wrong in public and you will be flag as a troll. Anyway, before i wasn't getting help from the team, now i will not even be able to ask. Maybe one day i will have a working wallet so i can give back the IOTA to some people. But no, i can't, because i need other people node's IP. To bad people share that on Slack. For your exemple with Google CEO... He will not even loose his time registering to Slack. The community the IOTA team ask money too during the ICO is not about CEO's and shit. It's just normal people from all backgrounds, all countries and that speak all kind of languages. If you want to hangout with CEO's and big corporate go ask for money to a VC next time. Don't betrayed those gave you the money and help your community. |
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uhh man what happened there? I want in slack for some days, an now seccour is banned  Lets hope everyone will calm down. nobody died so lets be nice and keep this iota thing going  +1 Unbelievable that this people will handle a million dollar company,....perhabs brilliant devs with communications @ machine-to-machine, but it looks that they have little problems with communications human-to-human. Not at all. He was given a warning, after several months of the same shit, he decided to not take the warning and couldn't handle the consequences like an adult. Sorry, but IOTA project is about the real world, not forum ideology, we have repeatedly stated we will simply and bluntly ban anyone we see fit from the IOTA Slack after warnings. You are entirely free to make your own IOTAnarchist Slack On Slack right ? Why did you bring my bitcointalk post on Slack then ? What a non-sense. And i didn't speak in the slack for month so how could you warn me about anything ? Please stop lying and get your fact right. All the screenshot prove that just because you misunderstand my message that wasn't address to you, IOTA or the Foundation you start a drama. You just a butt-hurt guy that can't handle criticism, advise or even simple sentence without insulting the person of being a troll or going by ad-hominem attack, or ban the person then give your own false version after it. Even when it's not related to you, you still find a way to link it to you so you can spill your bullshit and insult the person of being a troll. And you're not even able to be mature and accept that you misunderstand the sentence and make peace. In the real world you don't ban people because you don't agree with them. And at least in the real world you would have not enter the conversation that wasn't related to or about you. |
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People just can't stop making argument and showing off here. What a waste of time. I said so because I absolutely had no time and interest to read any of this kind walls of text except they were posted by the devs. I really hope devs don't need to spend time to read and answer this kind walls of text because they could spend the time in more productive way.
They don't read it don't worry. They start drama by replying to post that didn't concern them and ban the person who post it because they didn't understand the comment. ( BTW David for your information : this is drama. ) |
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I don't even read your posts, I just clicked the links to see if you had been honest in your screenshotting, which you had not. You are of no significance to me, I gave you plenty of opportunity to stop being a piss ant, you decided not to take them, and now you are experiencing the consequences of that.
/AFK BTT
It was on the screen, the last one. As i point out in the previous post. Why do you keep lying ? The proof is here. It was months that i didn't speak in Slack because i didn't have time for IOTA. I didn't speak to you since months too. If i have no significance why do you even bother replying to a comment that didn't concern you, IOTA, or the Foundation ? The only thing i experience right now is you being blind to the truth and being lock in your ego. You can't even admit that this start from a misunderstanding of my comment and your reply to it. If that's how you treat people that help your community by providing useful services, that's sad. To everyone : Avoid saying anything that could be misunderstand or you will be ban or treated like a troll. |
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You conveniently left out the "Go fuck yourself" reply to my last msgs there Oh the dishonest ones always got the same modus operandi. I don't got time to discuss this with you anymore, good luck with your Pied Piper. Please tell me more about how i left it out :   I even admit saying it. Again an ad-hominem and lying about how i "left out to put the "Go Fuck Yourself"". That's mature from your side. I'm ready to apologized if you do it to, because everything come from a misunderstanding, but you prefer to keep the ad-hominem and you even lie. And you call me a kid, and someone dishonest ? Everyone can see who is the real dishonest person here just from this comment. |
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" First i would like to say a big thanks to David for banning me from this Slack. I really appreciate that for all the IOTA deal i have escrow to protect IOTA users from being scams, that's a good thanks.
Second, David you should learn the definition of trolling, because i wasn't and my comment as i said wasn't even toward you or the Foundation.
Third, even a child would not be as childish as you. You ban or insult people of being trolls just because you don't like their comments even when they're *not* toward you. That's scary.
Fourth, for those who i still have deals on on slack, you can ask David for your money or un-banning me because i don't remember your nicknames.
Five, it's not by treating your user like shit that you will go somewhere David. You already have a bad reputation ( and IOTA as well, because your reputation goes back on IOTA ) because of the way you have treat several french speaking users.
And six : You can re-ban me now. IOTA was cool before you did go full-retard on your censorship and insulting everyone with a different opinion than yours to be a troll."
Thanks David. Banning someone because you interpret something badly. Hope IOTA will survive despite your censorship, the way you treat users that were following the project since a long time and where helping the community by escrowing people's deals to be sure they were not scammed.
I really appreciate it.
Thanks.
Yo kiddo, can't you just use your Pied Pieper lossless compression algo to revolutionize the internet and make it immutable and distributed among IoT devices due to its infinite compression capabilities? Seriously though I suggest you read up on the word 'censorship', I have never censored anything. I didn't have your post deleted here did I? Nope. I didn't delete your post in the chat did I? Nope. I warned you that if you continued to cause drama you would be banned due to a long series of these instances, to which your response was eloquently: "Go fuck yourself" how can you find it surprising that you were subsequently banned? Again, not censorship at all Looking forward to your Pied Pieper solution, would be very useful for some applications being built on top of IOTA, good luck. Thanks for the ad-hominem. WHERE THE FUCK DID I CAUSE DRAMA !!! You just starting by taking my comment as an attack on the Foundation or your job and by banning me. 1. https://imgur.com/a/OVol02. https://imgur.com/a/q8MpP3. https://imgur.com/a/9Hbtz4. https://imgur.com/a/Rk2wU5. https://imgur.com/a/q0C5bNow everyone can make his or her opinion. And yeah i did finish with a "Go Fuck yourself" because that was you merit for your ad-hominem against me and mocking me. As i said : My comment wasn't about creating a drama. It was just a reply to the other guy comment. I didn't even speak about the Foundation, IOTA, you or anyone else in my comment. It was a generality. " No matter how many "professional people" there is it doesn't worth anything if they do nothing. " - The thing you could add to that is : wait for their work. You just create the drama and put some user in the shit because i can't speak with them anymore. Something you should learn : Not everything or everyone comment is about you or the Foundation. Stop taking everything personally. Stop caring about what you think is trolling or drama because you can't block it. You could ban everyone here or on Slack there will be always drama. I'm ready to apologize for the "Go Fuck yourself" and the others insults i may i've said right now against you. So i can came back on Slack and continue all the deal i was escrowing. Because everything come from a misunderstanding of my comment. But i want you to apologized for the ad-hominem, and insulting me of being a troll because you didn't understand my comment correctly. So we can end this right now. Or you can kept the ban and keep the drama. You choice. Seccour |
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" First i would like to say a big thanks to David for banning me from this Slack. I really appreciate that for all the IOTA deal i have escrow to protect IOTA users from being scams, that's a good thanks.
Second, David you should learn the definition of trolling, because i wasn't and my comment as i said wasn't even toward you or the Foundation.
Third, even a child would not be as childish as you. You ban or insult people of being trolls just because you don't like their comments even when they're *not* toward you. That's scary.
Fourth, for those who i still have deals on on slack, you can ask David for your money or un-banning me because i don't remember your nicknames.
Five, it's not by treating your user like shit that you will go somewhere David. You already have a bad reputation ( and IOTA as well, because your reputation goes back on IOTA ) because of the way you have treat several french speaking users.
And six : You can re-ban me now. IOTA was cool before you did go full-retard on your censorship and insulting everyone with a different opinion than yours to be a troll."
Thanks David. Banning someone because you interpret something badly. Hope IOTA will survive despite your censorship, the way you treat users that were following the project since a long time and where helping the community by escrowing people's deals to be sure they were not scammed.
I really appreciate it.
Thanks.
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Wow! So many really professional People. The IOTA Foundation exceed my expectations. No matter how many "professional people" there is it doesn't worth anything IF they do nothing. Would you like to tell me the reason why you think they do nothing? Can't you read ? |
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Hello everyone, So today's news : Because of the drop in NXT price, the fact that some assets are leaving the platform and that some don't pay anymore until they move from NXT to another platform, SecFund will not distribute anymore dividends until Ardor came out (yeah i know, it will be long). During this period, the NXT, BTC or assets received in dividends will be used for the following : - 25% will be transformed in BTC until more interesting investment are out.
- 25% will be transformed into ARDOR so SecFund will be able to have a revenue when Ardor will be out. A SecFund pool will eventually be created for those who want it. The pool will profit you in two way because SecFund will earn more Ardr (so more dividends for you) and you will earn Ardr depending on your stake.
- 40% will be transformed into BTC for the dividends at the launch of Ardr
- 10% will be kept in NXT to buy back the SecFund that people don't want.
Thanks for your comprehension and your support since i created SecFund. I know some of you did have the impression that i didn't take a lot of my time for SecFund and i apologized for that. I will do everything for SecFund to be alive and improves. And in this regard i (since some time now) remove the sell order that i was keeping until SecFund his on Ardor. Seccour |
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Wow! So many really professional People. The IOTA Foundation exceed my expectations. No matter how many "professional people" there is it doesn't worth anything if they do nothing. |
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Pour ta première question : Oui Pour ta deuxième question : Si tu perds ou qu'on te vole ton Ledger tu as 2 options, acheter un nouveau ledger ou sinon tu peux utiliser d'autres wallets comme Electrum ( je crois qu'ils acceptent BIP 39 ) Pour ta troisième question : Comme dit précédemment, voir les wallets qui supportent BIP 39 : https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039.mediawikiMerci de la réponse. Si je comprends bien, la 'moulinette' qui fait passer de la seed à la clé privée (ou les bitcoins) est normalisée dans le protocole Bitcoin et c'est dans la BIP 39 qu'elle est incluse ? Rien avoir avec le protocole. Chaque wallet peut choisir de l'implémenter ou pas. C'est juste une spec qui définit la façon de faire dériver ta liste de mots en pleins de private key ( en gros ) |
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dAE? Echange décentralisé ? Si c'est le cas, ça existe sur bitcoin, double emploi donc ?
First sur NXT, il y a plein de truc que NXT a été premier à faire dans le monde des cryptos + easy to use + user friendly + best gui. |
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Il faut demander au mec qui gère Coinmarketcap. Il y a un thread anglophone pour Coinmarketcap je sais où sur ce forum d'ailleurs. Mais sinon pour les grosses cryptos il le fait sans que personne lui demande généralement.
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Pour ta première question : Oui Pour ta deuxième question : Si tu perds ou qu'on te vole ton Ledger tu as 2 options, acheter un nouveau ledger ou sinon tu peux utiliser d'autres wallets comme Electrum ( je crois qu'ils acceptent BIP 39 ) Pour ta troisième question : Comme dit précédemment, voir les wallets qui supportent BIP 39 : https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039.mediawiki |
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NXT était un scam et ils veulent se débarasser de l'ipo originale (et de ses élus) en faisant un exit pump and dump.
Un scam qui introduit pleins de nouveautés dans le monde des cryptos comme un dAE, et d'autres. Yeah obv. |
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