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221  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: JSON-RPC password on: April 10, 2011, 12:24:15 PM
I'm getting the same error that was posted here about 1 year ago:

Quote
Warning: fopen(http://...@localhost:8332/): failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.0 401 Authorization Required in /var/www/meubitcoin/src/classes/jsonRPCClient.php...

the php code:

Code:
  $bitcoind = new jsonRPCClient("http://fetokun:rcpass123@localhost:8332/", true); 
  echo($bitcoind->listaccounts());

Does it mean that I'm using an outdated version of bitcoind? ( I installed from this package: http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/bitcoind/download )

I'm starting bitcoind this way:

Code:
bitcoind -server -testnet -rpcport=8332 -rcpuser=fetokun -rcppassword=rcpass123

when I run getinfo, bitcoind returns me this:

Code:
{
    "version" : 32002,
    "balance" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 13312,
    "connections" : 8,
    "proxy" : "",
    "generate" : false,
    "genproclimit" : -1,
    "difficulty" : 17.09748611,
    "hashespersec" : 0,
    "testnet" : true,
    "keypoololdest" : 1302337673,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
    "errors" : ""
}


First of all, does "bitcoind getinfo" work?

Second, try to grab the attempt that jsonrpcclient.php makes with netcat (might have to install it first):

1) Stop bitcoind
2) netcat -l 8332
3) Run your client code with a modified (insecure) username and password
4) Ctrl-C netcat and post the output



when I do what lachesis mentioned above, netcat shows me:

Code:
{"method":"listaccounts","params":[],"id":1}

Its probably something very simple that I'm forgetting about... does anyone know what?
222  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Official Bitcoin Unicode Character? on: April 08, 2011, 04:48:11 PM

I've seen a lot of websites already using the ฿
It seems that this matter is decided, at least for now

Wrong.

Tell it to these guys:

https://en.bitcoin.it/
http://freebitcoins.appspot.com/
https://www.kalyhost.com/?Currency=BTC
https://www.autovps.net/?Currency=BTC

and many others
223  Economy / Marketplace / Re: MTGox and dark pool on: April 08, 2011, 09:56:14 AM
I like the idea of charging a fee
224  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Official Bitcoin Unicode Character? on: April 08, 2011, 09:17:57 AM

I've seen a lot of websites already using the ฿
It seems that this matter is decided, at least for now
225  Economy / Marketplace / Re: MTGox and dark pool on: April 08, 2011, 09:09:37 AM
What exactly does "moving the market" means? Means that these dark trades won't affect the price of  the BTC?

They will ultimately affect the price of the BTC through demand/supply rules. But there will significantly less immediate effect on the market comparing to normal, visible order, so this helps to combat short-term volatility.

Please check depth of market and megachart on mtgox to see what we're talking about (http://mtgox.com/trade/history).

Now to see how it works, consider that you want to buy a lot of USD for BTC. Let's say 5000 BTC which is more or comparable to sum of current bids.

If you'll try to buy it at market price going through current bids starting from highest you will fill a lot of bids and thus drive the highest bid down. So it is not a very good idea. Even you do this gradually, still highest bid will decrease over time from your activity, people will notice this and will put both their bids and asks lower, thus you're losing again.

If you do not want to buy at a huge premium you can try to buy at fixed price. Let's say lowest current ask is 0.79. Then you can put your ask at 0.78. Then, in theory, people who sell at market price will eventually fill your order without driving price down.

But the problem is that others see your ask order and its size and they will anticipate drop in price of BTC through demand/supply balance. Besides that there are other people who want to buy and they will try to put their asks lower than yours, e.g. 0.7799 < 0.78 to get their orders filled before yours by market orders. (As there is no chance that anybody can buy at better price in near future.)

Thus again, price is going down and you're not buying anything until some huge-ass sell order will appear.

Dark orders are kind of solution to this problem -- you're still buying something but people do not see your orders so they cannot anticipate whether market goes up/down before you do.

In dark+normal situation it is like a normal order but it is invisible. People will see that something happens -- ask orders are not filled at market, or are not filled as fast as they should, but they will not know what is your price and how much volume is left. So they cannot anticipate drop in price and drop it before that.

With dark-only situation you'll be trading among other dark-poolers (people with huge orders). So it will be invisible to normal market, but affect it because there are less volume flowing through it. Dark-poolers will probably use current market price as a reference for their orders.

So this stuff is unnecessary if there is huge volume in trading and so individual orders do not move market much. But it looks like it is not a case with bitcoin exchanges so far because there are different players with different capacities.

Thanx a lot for your explanation.
You made it sound really important and hard to live without =D
226  Economy / Marketplace / Re: MTGox and dark pool on: April 08, 2011, 07:29:41 AM
Sorry for my ignorance, but I still don't understand what the Dark Pool is.

"The Mt Gox dark pool allows you to buy or sell large quantities of BTC without moving the market"

What exactly does "moving the market" means? Means that these dark trades won't affect the price of  the BTC? Does it mean that these trades are untraceable ?

227  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin2Cash.com - Cash-Only Marketplace on: April 07, 2011, 11:10:52 AM
Why do I get "insuficient funds" when trying to bid with my 5 dollars?
228  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin2Cash.com - Cash-Only Marketplace on: April 07, 2011, 08:02:52 AM
guys... please, stop!

you're both very serious and professional... everyone got that!

No need to "defend your honor" through more pages and threads
229  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Português on: April 07, 2011, 06:45:10 AM
Pô cara, parabéns pela iniciativa!

Quanto mais brasileiros envolvidos mais chance de a moeda dar certo também em território brasuca.

Mas não entendi muito bem seu serviço... você faz troca apenas pessoalmente, na cidade do Rio e num valor mínimo de R$200? É isso?
230  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Professional Flash/Design Studio Offering services on: April 07, 2011, 06:40:34 AM
I'm really happy to see more and more designers here!

We have too much programmers here (me included) and not enough people to make things look professional =D
231  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Português on: April 06, 2011, 01:00:34 PM
É, hoje à noite escrevo o e-mail e mando pra vários serviços do tipo.

Mas já tive algumas idéias... acho que vai ser possível sim viabilizar o site
232  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Logo design on: April 06, 2011, 11:10:19 AM
Dude, you are really good!
233  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Português on: April 06, 2011, 10:52:34 AM
é, uma possibilidade seria deixar os bitcoins da pessoa congelados durante esses 14 dias.

 O problema desse tempo é que a qualquer momento a pessoa pode simplesmente dizer que não recebeu o serviço e o pagseguro (ou outros) cancela o pagamento.
234  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Português on: April 06, 2011, 09:55:10 AM
Então, na verdade eu queria aceitar pagamentos só via boleto e depósito.
Com cartão daria de usar sites internacionais, o que deixaria tudo beeem mais fácil.

Mas eu queria focar o serviço pro público leigo... alguém que lê sobre, se interessa e resolve comprar um pouco pra doar em algum lugar ou comprar alguma bugiganga/serviço barato pra ir pegando confiança no esquema do bc... mas essa pessoa com certeza não está disposta a esperar muito... 2 dias para fazer a conversão já seria o máximo aceitavel
235  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Português on: April 06, 2011, 08:58:43 AM

Pô, tá difícil de achar um meio eficiente de pagamento.
Na maioria dos serviços tipo PagSeguro leva 14 dias pra cair o pagamento feito por boleto/deposito.

Desse jeito não teria como fazer algo rápido e automatizado =(

A não ser que eu colocasse direto a minha conta bancária, mas isso provavelmente seria risco demais

Alguém tem alguma idéia?
236  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any musicians here? I've got an idea on: April 06, 2011, 08:08:52 AM
I'm also a musician, but I didn't quite get what would be the objective of your project.

You mean a tool help people composing together?
237  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Português on: April 06, 2011, 06:40:17 AM
Cabo que na bugagem do negoço, eu achei que tava logado quando finalmente consegui fazer o pagamento mas no fim das contas o pagamento não teve nda a ver com a conta que eu criei.


O pagseguro até agora parece o pior... mas é o mais usado.
Alguém sabe o tempo que leva pra um pagamento via boleto ou depósito cair na conta pagseguro?
238  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin conspiracy theories. on: April 06, 2011, 06:08:21 AM
I can't believe some of the inventive plot devices some people come up with when they rant about why bitcoin is not going to work and I dont know if its just a fear campaign or complete ignorance that creates these theories.

I think this is a natural first reaction.
When I first googled about bitcoin and saw actual services and things being traded by bitcoin I immediately though "this is too good to be true".

Not meaning it will become too good to be true when the world starts seing value on bc and nations start adopting, I'm saying that it already is!

I spent about a week on google and a bunch of forums looking for a way to pay and recieve money anonymously. The best solutions I found involved buying (for at least $4k) a corporative bank account in some caribbean country and paying huge fees for each transaction... then I found bitcoin! It's like a party that is too good to last

(of course I'm talking about me, not that crazy blogger)
239  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Português on: April 06, 2011, 05:48:18 AM
Eu usei uma vez pra compra uma coisa, a interface pra registra uma conta e fazer um pagamento tava tão bugada que quase desisti de fazer a compra...

Você teve que criar uma conta na PagSeguro só pra pagar a compra?
240  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 20 Bitcoin for a good name on: April 06, 2011, 05:39:10 AM
AlpacaStocks?
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