Best way to go about it is the make a chart showing them how much they could have profited if they accepted payments at a particular time. Sort of like Assange coming out thanking PayPal for shutting down WikiLeaks PayPal accounts, that forced them to accept Bitcoin and now they're sitting on a 50000% profit.

Nothing can beat that!

It's quite hard to quantify that, what's worth and what not but no one can deny it adds value to the project if they can tie it to the success and name of a global company. Works in any branch. Elon is ex PayPal, BAT has ex Mozilla and JavaScript, Google exec's are all over.

Until they prove themselves in their new journey, where people came from has real value. How much? I don't know. How deserved that value is in each case? That I don't know either but it certainly gets the conversation and interest going when you see a "familiar" name on the panel.

Yeah, the confusing part is that only half have been taken. Be very careful with the rest, even some Slack bots are sending messages with phising links without the slack owners being aware so be really careful with these things...

Crypto (and bitcoin) can and ARE making banks change their ways. At least the smart ones will try and develop a climate that includes services and products from the crypto world.

It would also be interesting to see how other financial institutions (ie Western Union, PayPal) will tackle crypto.

Removed from the system? Which system? It only takes one PC in the whole world to run a node and it will exist. Sure, governments can ban it but the chance of ALL governments to ban it is getting very slim and more so by the day. As a wild example, Vanuatu announced that they are accepting BTC payments for their citizenship. Thailand shows signs of openness towards crypto as well.

What I mean is that even if big countries like China and US prohibit it, there are options.

So the chance of Bitcoin "to be removed" is almost the same as the chance of humanity to be removed, I would say.

Wow, really? It's the first time I hear Bittrex has a wallet. Will read and check it out.

It's a good time to wait. Bitcoin will surge a lot before the hardfork on the 25th and then it will crash as people dump it and altcoins will follow it for a while until things stabilize. So I think wait and buy them even cheaper.

There are rumors they will ban mining. IF/WHEN they do that, it WILL be significant.

I think it will be alive and well but it feels like governments will step in more and more to try and protect their taxpayer's money.

Now it's China but I have a feeling that with increased attention from people like Jamie Foxx, Paris Hilton or Mayweather which will undoubtedly be followed but many more stars promoting ICO's, US will follow China's suit soon.

I think it's bad for crypto to involve these sort of paid promoters who clearly have nothing to do with crypto world and will only give a bad reputation on the long run to the serious ICO's out there.

Aaaaand it happened. I wonder what will Japan and SK do. It's definitely a (low) blow imo but it makes coins a little cheaper to purchase so it's all good in the end? With the upcoming metropolis ETH might surface better in the end.

I don't know about death penalty though, it sounds so medieval and useless in this context. 

Put a few BTC into the Tezos ICO (starts July 1st). I know I will.

Buy some Stratis and forget about your 2 week plan and hold them for 2 years instead! 

I think Stratis is the most obvious contender to overtake Ethereum, but Tezos looks interesting too (ICO starts July 1st) even though I am not sure I understand the white paper correctly!

I do not believe you are an idiot. 

It is them, not you. 

Looks like it is written by people that do not have a clue in order to attract investment from people that do not have a clue.

We will see, if you are an idiot @OP I will be standing right there next to you! 

PS. You have a great site btw, been following it for a while. Keep up the good work!

There is an incredible amount of signature spam in this thread, very sad to see.  

The OP asked a very interesting and specific question about coins that have the potential to produce "passive income" and you guys are replying with shit like "Litecoin!"  

Litecoin is a fantastic coin, but it is a POW coin, do most of you even know what that means!?

The OP is obviously asking about POS coins that produce a passive income simply by holding them in your wallet and "staking them".

@OP I would consider looking into Bitbeans.

This new thread is a good addition to the ventureship of the project giving more information that was needed to be shown.

It is best to stay away from if there is still so much not known and nothing definite yet on it's longevity such as bitcoin has had over the years. Even of it's rises and falls in the market price. It still endures.

So this over saturation of the ICO market using ethereum as their outlet for payment gateway, smart contractual agreements, banking system platforms, etc etc is the root cause of it's devaluation?
It has seen a significant drop in the last two weeks because of these. From it's peak at somewhere near 0.145btc to 0.110btc where it is at now.

https://betanews.com/2017/06/15/bitcoin-ethereum-massive-price-corrections-post-record-prices

Well to put it in this light the it does look as if they were trying to get their own creation to leverage on bitcoin then now have it tank so to cash in some more.
Massive market manipulation or what?
On an epochal scale.

Polubius bank project that is run from hashcoins?
The ones who are the cloudmining company hashflare?

Are you sure about this?

Isn't that just plain weird for an ICO toting supercomputer capabilities for their product and their site crashes due to overload.
Why didn't they just use the algo of this supercomputer to run the site.