I agree. Never had an issue with them. And I'm really surprised by how good their support is (Jenny). They've gotten back to me in under 10 minutes in most cases.

The price movements look bigger because there is less liquidity in BTC-EUR than BTC-USD. Meaning a 50BTC market buy in BTCUSD may move price $0.20 whereas in BTCEUR it might move it $1.50 simply because the books are thinner.

This does not mean you can make more money in BTC-EUR because although volatility may appear to be higher you still need to get your orders filled at the right prices and that is much harder in BTC-EUR than BTC-USD especially during times the market moves rapidly which is when the profit potential is highest.

In fact I am sure most of those moves you see in BTC-EUR are arbitrage bots on EURUSD and BTC-USD.

The theoretical "value" of BTC post-halving is double what it is right now so around $860. That's the VALUE and PRICE may and probably will be different, because 1) the market is not fully efficient and 2) the halving has already probably been taken into account with our "doubling" pump from $220 -> $440. This is assuming demand for BTC remains the same.

What will probably happen at the halving is whales will SELL the news against noobs who are just discovering about the halving and going fomo. Then over time it will pick up again.

Trading is a skill that's acquired. In the beginning you will lose money, that is the tuition you "pay" the market to learn how to trade. You can demo trade but it's not the same emotion and thrill as using real money.

Compared to gambling, trading is a SKILL you can improve over time (at least some people can) whereas gambling is just pure luck.


Try Whaleclub they have full demo platform if you want to practice.

I'm really enjoying trading on WhaleClub. I've traded Oil on the gap down couple of days ago and made 1.2BTC profit up from 0.3BTC in my balance.

Some suggestions:

I also tried trading from mobile, which is nice from the browser. Are you guys gonna make and android or ios App?

Also it would be great to see more markets represented? Any plans to get bond futures on there? Soybeans? Wheat? US or Euro equities? Those are tough to find in CFD brokers. In any case this is a great start and I'm looking forward to seeing the markets grow.

I can't believe someone sits down all day doing technical analysis on crypto and posts this stuff for everyone to see.

idk haven't traded forex there @capoeira i think eurusd is new. they reduce spreads after couple weeks.

EDIT: actually now that I think of it maybe that's why I been making bank with whaleclub's affiliate program. pays out 50%

I used to trade on sfx but probably never again. UI is too complex. and for god's sake their spreads triple when there's volatility it's untradeable.

I use whaleclub.co now which has quite a great interface and importantly FIXED spreads although not many markets yet (I mostly trade BTC/USD and crude oil there). Also they have incredible support I can not say enough good things about them. jenny from @whaleclub if you're reading this, I love you.