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Thank you, now the things are little bit clear for me. regards |
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Common dude, BFL make this game of preorders since their FPGA era - 2011. As far as i know they didnt deliver any FPGA, even the existence of that prototype is not clear.
You are beyond silly. I personally have many BFL FPGA Singles mining right now. Hundreds of people have FGPA singles. No one doubts their existence. Can you post a picture for me, I read a couple of threads that ended before BFL ship any FPGA single. |
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What's ironic is that a similar list--ten times longer--applied to Avalon, yet they delivered.
There were ZERO doubts that avalon will deliver. The question was about BFL and BASIC one is gone already second question still remains  There have never been any legitimate doubts that BFL will deliver. A bunch of trolls shouting "scam" does not make it so. Luke, I respect you and your work. The only way to stop us trolling is to see a proof that something happaning in BFL camp and they to start to deliver. I will sent my apologies to BFL and who feels affected buy me. No irony here if that matters at all. Until then we will troll. I do not mean to offend you not only because you helped me once but because of your work and skills Please excuse me ... Just face the facts - pictures with fans, chips heat sinks are just pictures and nothing more this is the way most of us see things. Kano went there and show us air plains and buildings. Probably the initial idea was to get a prototype in order to develop cgminer. Even though he stayed longer than expected nothing came out of it. What does it mean? Shit happen again 100%. How big it is - we will never know. Yeah BFL has air plain PCb machine probably and so? just a few pictures came out of it for now. It just not making sense for me. I have sated many times that BFL is not a scam it is just a proxy that is all. It might become a sacam eventually when upstream fails. Let us hope that this will never happen not because of BFL but because of the dudes here who put their money and hopes in the company Ok, BFL is late - later than ever before. But there is no evidence they're a scam or won't deliver. From what I've seen of Josh's updates (and I haven't even seen all of them, I'm sure), we're getting all the information they have available (short of releasing trade secrets, which would be a ridiculous expectation). Also realize that the lesson BFL is being taught by all the trolling is that trolls will make trouble if they do release information too. Common dude, BFL make this game of preorders since their FPGA era - 2011. As far as i know they didnt deliver any FPGA, even the existence of that prototype is not clear. |
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What's ironic is that a similar list--ten times longer--applied to Avalon, yet they delivered.
There were ZERO doubts that avalon will deliver. The question was about BFL and BASIC one is gone already second question still remains There have never been any legitimate doubts that BFL will deliver. A bunch of trolls shouting "scam" does not make it so. Luke, I respect you and your work. The only way to stop us trolling is to see a proof that something happaning in BFL camp and they to start to deliver. I will sent my apologies to BFL and who feels affected buy me. No irony here if that matters at all. Until then we will troll. I do not mean to offend you not only because you helped me once but because of your work and skills Please excuse me ... Just face the facts - pictures with fans, chips heat sinks are just pictures and nothing more this is the way most of us see things. Kano went there and show us air plains and buildings. Probably the initial idea was to get a prototype in order to develop cgminer. Even though he stayed longer than expected nothing came out of it. What does it mean? Shit happen again 100%. How big it is - we will never know. Yeah BFL has air plain PCb machine probably and so? just a few pictures came out of it for now. It just not making sense for me. I have sated many times that BFL is not a scam it is just a proxy that is all. It might become a sacam eventually when upstream fails. Let us hope that this will never happen not because of BFL but because of the dudes here who put their money and hopes in the company good point , dude |
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Okay, you are right dude.
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Hm, 67117 secret reveaed, it is proxy pool, probably SLUSH's. Some kind of detective work there Columbo.  Yea, some kind of a little detective work. I still doubt ASIC miner exist. No real proof, no video footage of real-time work. GPU miners has thousands of videos , ASIC's none, and they consume milions $ of preorders. Before month i decide to buy some of BFL's but i realise this is hoax and planned to build my self, unfortunately it is big investment. |
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The case airflow design is simply ridiculous.
Actualy is the best cooling possible for the design. For me this type of radiator is good if you bend the chips with screws, like transistor for power audio amplifier. I dont know how you can allign radiator to all the chips like this design, at least will be very dificult. |
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IT`s not funny really, it`s not funny but stilllll Something strange on this image, like photoshop involved to put this box in the picture |
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Seems really huge!  Thats because its 2 Avalons in one box It look like home made box with some fans and PC power supply |
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how many do you have now? just the one?
Also curious how quickly users could acquire these. I don't care if I only could run it for 6 months before the power consumption exceeds the income. If in those 6 months I make back the investment and then some then I'd be a happy customer. I think 67117 is proxy pool. The hash output is always simillar to SLUSH's. SLUSH has 2.6% rejection rate -they obviusly proxy pooling. Still not real proof of working ASIC. Or it could be ASICMiner It could be, true. |
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Hello, for those who think GPU is out of business is wrong. Regular FPGA boards just output hash power like RADEON 5770 - 200Mh/s for a hardware cost 5 times 5770, and you still need PC to operate with FPGA board.The long waiting ASIC's never released and probaby not soon, until theese days ASIC's are considered as scam. But may i have your attention. I have small tech company based in Sofia , Bulgaria (european unit). I made some research on custom hardware for bitcoin mining. The problem is that the good FPGA chips that can output reasonable hash power costs several thausands dolllars each. I found good alternative with one chinese chip manufactorer but still the working prototype will be an expensive investment, at least for me. What i want to build is device that is capable of 2GH/s with own web server and internet connection for pool mining management (because you dont want dedicated PC with the miner) all for retail cost under 500$. The invention will cost around 10,000$ only for materials, my dedicated working hours are not counted and doesnt matter. To reach the 500$ barier two things must be availble- 1st own Pick&place machines (which i dont have), 2nd a good amount of chip order(the more chips, the less the price) for chinese fabric. A good start is around 130,000$, for prototype, pnp machines, and the chip order. What i have is a testing equipment. So if there are persons who want to invest, or donate for my miner all will be welcome. The first 10,000$ will show if it is possible and is considered as risk investment, which i can not return. If the prototype working with the required parametters the money above first 10,000$ will be considered as donation, investment or preorder(every participant can choose what it is). I can't put my company info and email here because i dont want spam, but i can give all details in personal. Only serios mind please, my english isnt good for that i can't argue with everybody. Thank you for the time! regards Georgi Krachmarov g_krachmarov@yahoo.comTAKE MY MONEY NOW!  It's funny  . That i am newbie in this forum does nothing to what i am and what i can . It is not right for me as a company onwer to say that but as far as i know BFL sales mining equipment since 2011 and they even dont have any prototype yet, and they will ship thausends of them in any moment, very funny. There are some pictures of ASIC miners like PCB's and boxes, but no VIDEO that shows it actualy working! If i have build working one l would make many videos that shows how it work realtime with statistics, yeah, definetily would do that like all the good guys in you tube that build bitcoin farms with many GPU's. for me 67117 is proxy pool with big rejection rate. It is fine to call me newbie. |
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how many do you have now? just the one?
Also curious how quickly users could acquire these. I don't care if I only could run it for 6 months before the power consumption exceeds the income. If in those 6 months I make back the investment and then some then I'd be a happy customer. I think 67117 is proxy pool. The hash output is always simillar to SLUSH's. SLUSH has 2.6% rejection rate -they obviusly proxy pooling. Still not real proof of working ASIC. |
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This whole testing fiasco is really a wonderment. To lose that many precious (and expensive) chips to only gain a marginal amount of useful information is insane. At any company I have worked for that kind of decision would have landed someone a pink slip.
To be fair, the cost of a processed 65nm wafer is likely somewhere between $1500-$2000. Not exactly a fortune. Avalon pays (it is estimated) about 4k per wafer at 110nm. How is BFL paying half that at 65nm? Somehow your estimates sounds kinda off. 110nm is an old technology. You cant expect GH from that. If it was possible the miners with Cyclone and Spartan FPGA already can be made. They aren't so dont be fool to be involved in this ASIC hoax. Also 67117 in btcguild is proxy pool. regards. |
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Hm, 67117 secret reveaed, it is proxy pool, probably SLUSH's.
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It is not ASICMINER, it is proxy pool, probably SLUSH's. regards. |
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Yeah you are right if they mine 30 blocks per day it is near $25500. But from time to time i get 48406 to be #1, 41921 to be #2, 1798 #3, and the pool hash rate is the same 9,900+ GH/s. Is it possible that the first 4 are scam?
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Hi, how you calculate that 30K/day?!
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True, the prototype will cost a lot. It is also true that i have a good option for chinese chips if i order large amount. The Stratix chips are for project validtion.
regards Georgi.
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Hi, for the prototype i plan to use ALTERA High-end Stratix chips.
10x
Georgi.
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Hello, thanks for your replies. The cost for prototype will be around $10K. So for $10K there will be an expensive toy. I stated when the prototype has prove of work i will need at least $130K for mass production. Anyone who has interest on that can connect me via email. And yeah i just get over newbie status. regards Georgi Krachmarov g_krachmarov@yahoo.com |
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