Is there any way, that changes done during OS operation surive a restart?
Isn't this an option you can set, that changes automatically are stored?

So what is now the expected withdrawal time for:

SEPA >1000EUR
SEPA <1000EUR
Int Wire >1000USD
Int Wire <1000USD
Int Wire JPY

This was some time ago. Is there still a delay for Eur Sepa transfers??

This Thread is some time old. How is the current situation? Are there still delays with gox withdraws??? Or everything working fine now?

So this means only uber retards are gonna do this at this price. A sure loss!!!

Can you explain how it works with selling on cex.io?
Cuz I don't get it. So theoretically I could make acc sell all my hashpower, withdraw all funds - stop hashing. create new account sell again etc..... Making huge profits.
How does cex.io prohibit this behavior?? (To be exact: What do you have to do in order to sell and what are the penaltyes if you fail to deliver the sold hash rate?)

I'm also very confused with cex.io especially concerning the duration as well as the penalties of a failure to supply the promised hash rate. However I thought it would be possible that you can sell. When not then I really don't see any way to make profit with mining.

OK 2.21 BTC inc shipping and instant (delivered within 5 days) I pay for 60GH.... This would be profitable

Yes it seems to be the best option atm. The only way to make profit atm with mining is to get a good BTC/GH miner instant on ebay or so ant then instantaneously sell all hash power on cex.io. However it could be risky since affaik you are obligated to offer this hashrate forever. However its likely that you can buyback the hashpower almost free in a few months. So you have the profit of the beginning margin - the elec costs - buyback costs = which is most likely profitable...

Else I didn't find anything which seems to be profitable. Please inform me when you find a way, since I really wanna make profit with mining :-)

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When the gear arrives the diff will be (or very soon be) 345158085 (next est.). So with 60GH/s you're getting 0.0874 BTC/day. 

1. Why was my response noob?
2. Well you're getting probably less than that not more since there are pool fees etc (go to allchains if you don't believe).

Well it seems to me like a GH/S exchange. But i don't understand how long you get this GH/s when you buy. However Price per GH is even higher as with Avalon.

Good luck with that! You get 0.0878 BTC a day. In begining. Diff inc 40% each time... so do the math. So even when diff would not increase you would use 68 days for HW break even. When you consider diff and elec you probably never get your 6 BTC back.... -> fail investment

Well the problem is, that process shrinking does no more shrink the relative transistor costs in the amount we have seen a few years ago. If its no more possible to shrink the relative costs of a transistor this would mean the end of moors law. Thats why the whole industry is in panic: See this famous NVIDIA flame for ex: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/123529-nvidia-deeply-unhappy-with-tsmc-claims-22nm-essentially-worthless

However this freeze are basically good news for miners. Since it would mean a halt in cost saving advancements, and makes they're mining gear longer profitable operational. The only problem is, that the current products are highly overpriced and there is a huge cost saving potential.

Hi
Is there any ASIC out there worh as an Investment?

I was thinking about buying a KNC miner. When I assume the delivery in mind-end Nov this device gets obsolete in End of feb when Black Arrow Prospero X-3 arrives. So I expect a yield of 2000USD in this period. Manybe you get 500-1000 USD afterwards. So when I buy I would probably get a loss of 2000USD+
This scenario repeats and repeats; just look at the amount of avelon miner which will never get they're return.
WHY? Cuz the Investment in ASIC is currently stupid! Just do the math:

A 12 inch 28nm Waver costs around 2-3 k USD in production. However is sold from the fab for 10k (high quantitys).

So a typical Waver would be:
2.4 GH/s / mm2 at 28nm a 12inch Waver has 70000 mm^2 = 170TH

yield is not 100%-> 150TH

so the price would be 6 cents/GH!!!!!

Of course everithing has to be tested and packed and this produces significant costs. The R&D+initial production cost must be covered as well as PCB and PSU, MCU etc....
So lets say production costs are 30 cent/GH. Best offer ATM 1.5 USD/GH. There is huge potential in cost reduction, and this will probably also happen from generation to generation of asic's making the old ones obsolete before they returned the investment. This will happen over and over again until prices reached very close to production prices (when will this be??). Until then its better to invest in directly in bitcoin than in mining.

PS: I'm not blaming any ASIC company for ripping customers off. They probably have higher production prices, this just shows how low it can and probably will go in pricing.
So to me an investment in any offered ASIC seems completely nonsense. How do you see this?

Is there anyone already making PCBs and just buys ASICs in order to further reduce costs?

well this pool has a lot of potential.
However there are some issues to be fixed.... And some coins to add...
The profit switching stuff seems also to be laggy/incorrect. And the update of new block found etc is very laggy.

Well im the next 2Weeks in Brazil and will keep throwing 1.5MH to this pool. Lets see what i get

About the same is our goal to get in Switzerland - when we decide to stay in this country.

Well is it also that cheap if you use a lot of power (like 1-2 GWH)? And is the grid able to deliver stable this amount of elec? (most installation do not support such an high elec drain)

BTW: Malaysia is not cheap at all....

Are those prices also the same if you use a lot of power. (like 1-2GWH)
We're currently looking for a low elec priced place.

Reward for 1469590 diff 1 shares accepted:

0.013BTC!?!
Minig LTC would have been at least 3 times more proftable....
WTF is wrong? Youre sure your profit switching als is any good, and you really concider Orphans/Stales etc.?

And why http://middlecoin.com/profitgraph.html <-- doesnt update anymore