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How do we get this 1 TIME signup bonus? I signed up and I've got 0 TIME in account(mail confirmed).
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Ah... Greed makes the world go round. And sometimes broke  |
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The multiculturalism problem however, and by that I mean largely segregated minority communities, is a pan European problem, not just a German problem. Certainlly in the UK, it is a huge problem and tensions are on the rise. Of course, as long as everyone has full bellies and enough people consider themselves as 'middle class', then there is not likely to ever be problems on a large scale. Real problems will only arise when the wealth stops flowing in.
The multiculturalism problem in Europe (and Germany) is basically a moslem problem. They do not integrate, they don't want to integrate and the cannot (because of their religious and cultural mental programming) integrate. Moslems and non-Moslems can only co-exists without violence (I do not say "peacefully") under hard dictatorship. Without that you cannot live in peace with moslems, once they reached a certain number. This is proved by reality in dozens of countries. In Germany moslems (so called youngsters by the media) are killing young german males. Every week. They do it very brutally by jumping on the head. For nothing reasonably, the real motivation behind is applying power for the own ethnic/religious group. Very simple. Mainstream media ignores this. Justice is weak. Churches and mayors are talking about "tolerance" and "racism" and "fight against right people". The brutality and insanity of young moslems is increasing, therefore. But most of the young germans are too brainwashed and damaged by leftist ideology, gender mainstreaming, computer games, disfunctional families and ... to take a stand. They are too stupid, pussified, timid and cowardly to take back control over street life in the big cities. The young moslems here are running around as they are the kings of the country. No south american poor and uneducated latino macho would tolerate this moslem behaviour, they are showing here, for even one second. This is so simple, but the germans (and the other europeans) don't get it. This is the first time in which I come across such a simple, yet very realistic explanation of what is going on here in Europe. I'm in Amsterdam at the moment and this is all too evident. It's the same as in south-eastern Europe, where the gypsies are doing the same as the moslems- killing and pillaging. And the local population are helpless in front of these bullsh*t EU tolerance policies... |
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Don't forget that if prices fall below that, mining resources will be taken offline, hence the difficulty will drop.
That's the amazing thing about BTC- it's a self-regulating system in its design!
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I personally think it will settle at around $35/BTC. FUNDAMENTALS as you speculators call it  Who's using BTC at the moment to buy anything? How many noobs are gonna quit BTC after they wanted to make a quick buck, and all of a sudden there was no happy ending? |
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I think round about 2015-2016, what do you say? |
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What if those 75K accounts were created by one group of people with lots of money. And they created bots, linking them to every account, with resources at their disposal and programming them to simulate this market growth?
I am totally against Gox- these guys can't handle 100K accounts, and now they've got 20K new A DAY...
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People who enter bitcoin come from a nanny-state socialist market environment where they expect regulatory bodies to protect them from poorly performing institutions. Why they have this expectation is beyond me, since people are being scammed left and right, even with the regulatory bodies. But nonetheless, people come to bitcoin with the expectation that if something is popular and in use, it must perform well.
So the first and biggest exchange they hear about is MtGOX. And they sign up. A month later, they learn their lesson, but still, a lot of them stay with gox. There are many excuses "it has liquidity" "gox has treated me well" etc. etc. etc. But in order for people to finally vote with their wallets, they need to slowly wake up to the idea that no one is going to protect them - they need to do their research before selecting an exchange.
It takes 2 seconds on the Economics or Speculation subforum - or heck, ANYWHERE on bitcointalk.org to figure out that MtGOX lags anytime there is high volume, and has been responsible for many a flash crash. But many thousands of people simply didn't take the time to look that up or didn't understand the negative feedback for what it was worth.
+1 This just shows the weakness of the BTC market- many speculators here talk like crazy about fundamentals in BTC, but the fact is, that we've basically got one exchange with 90% of the volumes, which doesn't have the infrastructure to cope with the market at the moment. We've also got a non-functioning market based on BTC exchange for goods/services, namely because of the volatile Gox. And people here are talking about fundamentals... |
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This chart is valid for every bubble I have ever seen, and I've been following stock and currency markets since around the Asian crisis of 97-98.
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So, I want to hear the speculators talking bout FUNDAMENTALS here! How much r we gonna see tommorrow, sub-35 levels? Cause for me- that is the fundamental price at the moment. Fundamentals??? Here's some fundamentals for you!!! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172641.0 Damn, and all the gold and silver evaporated. Let's switch to BTC. BTC will become widespread in at least 3-4 years. |
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Poor speculators, they were expecting $300 today... Greed is not good!
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Exchanges will go mad and crash these days with all this hype and tention.
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So, I want to hear the speculators talking bout FUNDAMENTALS here! How much r we gonna see tommorrow, sub-35 levels? Cause for me- that is the fundamental price at the moment. |
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The features of most of them seem quite clearly to be caricaturized stereotypical Jewish. Like what? We must have different stereotypes of jews here in the U.S., all I see is a bunch of old fucks playing monopoly. Not saying that it wasn't anti-semitic, or that it was, just saying I don't see the stereotype there. +1 +2 Also, far right is Gandhi and far left is God. +3 |
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Bitcoin is freedom- freedom to choose when and where you'll transact with who. Without having to feed giant banks and corporations for transactions and having corrupt government officials breathing down your neck.
Exactly. And that is worth a hell of a lot, to a hell of a lot of people. THERE's yer "fundamentals." Well, if they are the fundamentals, I only see speculators here. Perhaps because you're in the SPECULATION subforum. Come visit the politics and society boards, then you'll see the people wanting the freedom. You're right But those speculators are hurting our freedom!  |
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Bitcoin is freedom- freedom to choose when and where you'll transact with who. Without having to feed giant banks and corporations for transactions and having corrupt government officials breathing down your neck.
Exactly. And that is worth a hell of a lot, to a hell of a lot of people. THERE's yer "fundamentals." Well, if they are the fundamentals, I only see speculators here. That's my point- I don't see real people wanting real freedom, just a lotta people wanting quick buck. And that will hurt BTC, but after them I think that the fundamentals will come. |
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I don't hold BTC, I have investments in other places. I want to see BTC become something stable before I buy into it. I'm not bearish, I am a realist.
There have been no other investment even remotely close to bitcoin in the last four years. So I guess that makes you a bad investor, sorry Really? And how many other things have you invested in? I think that BTC started being like no other investment about a month ago. Before that most of you here weren't so sure that it had such a $$$-future. Now that the price is over the roof, everybody is starting to see new cars and houses with the 10-100-1000 BTC that they hold. That's greed. Greed is also consuming massive amounts of oil, as opposed to renewable energy sources, which are being suppressed by Big Oil. Greed is also medical marijuana being suppressed by Big Pharma. Greed is getting a $1000 check for a simple doctor's visit, with courtesy of the Med's Cartel. Greed is about getting more and more money, and that's what a lot of people here want. They don't give a f**k about BTC- they just wanna see the price rise and rise and make a profit out of it, telling themselves and everybody else some far-fetched stories that a lot of people are into it now, it's the future and so on(FUNDAMENTALS, as they call it). And I don't think that's what BTC is about- i personally see it next to renewable energy, alternative medicines and free people(not the slaves that most have become- slave to the bank, slave to the government, slaves to their corporations where they work). Bitcoin is freedom- freedom to choose when and where you'll transact with who. Without having to feed giant banks and corporations for transactions and having corrupt government officials breathing down your neck. |
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As I have seen on many other markets, greed is the driving factor behind every bubble.
When will some people here see that it's their greed telling them that BTC will hit $1K by next week/month/year?
BTC is different from other markets in many ways, but it IS after all a MARKET- buy and sell.
I think that after greed and burst bubbles, comes the fundamentals and the real development of BTC. Does anyone agree with me?
Normally, I would have to agree. It's definitely greed (or let's say belief in making a good investment decision) that people do say that BTC will surely hit $1,000 and preferably as soon as possible. But in the case of bitcoin, this really can happen independently from what people say or not. And I believe there are some people that do say it purely because of fundamentals+intuition (and intuition, even though is highly irrational, is proven to be very important for every successful investor). So normally, I would have to agree, but in bitcoin discussion, imho it has no sense to point it out really. Bitcoin will surely hit that price, even much higher. But that will happen gradually and with time, not tomorrow. you know, just because other people were bearish and the price went up, doesnt mean you have to pretend to be bearish and then secretly hope it goes up too I don't hold BTC, I have investments in other places. I want to see BTC become something stable before I buy into it. I'm not bearish, I am a realist. |
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As I have seen on many other markets, greed is the driving factor behind every bubble.
When will some people here see that it's their greed telling them that BTC will hit $1K by next week/month/year?
BTC is different from other markets in many ways, but it IS after all a MARKET- buy and sell.
I think that after greed and burst bubbles, comes the fundamentals and the real development of BTC. Does anyone agree with me?
Normally, I would have to agree. It's definitely greed (or let's say belief in making a good investment decision) that people do say that BTC will surely hit $1,000 and preferably as soon as possible. But in the case of bitcoin, this really can happen independently from what people say or not. And I believe there are some people that do say it purely because of fundamentals+intuition (and intuition, even though is highly irrational, is proven to be very important for every successful investor). So normally, I would have to agree, but in bitcoin discussion, imho it has no sense to point it out really. Bitcoin will surely hit that price, even much higher. But that will happen gradually and with time, not tomorrow. |
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