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241  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns on: June 26, 2016, 10:44:46 PM
How is scalability not improved with TPS increase?

Because scalability and TPS are not synonymous metrics. Scalability includes a whole bunch of other factors, throughput is only one. Increasing the blocksize only improves 1 factor: the throughput (i.e. TPS). And it does so at the expense of all other factors: hence, does not constitute a scaling solution
What metric would like to see used when referring to scalability? I'm pretty sure that more TPS will certainly provide additional scalability. The block propagation time issue has already been addressed by Xthin /compact blocks. What else is there really to be concerned with?
242  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns on: June 26, 2016, 10:26:12 PM
If you think that it is 'one line of code' then you really don't know what you're talking about. Take a look at how many lines of code Gavin's BIP has and then come here. A 2 MB block size limit is not safe on its own. If it were, then Classic would have not added those limitations.
How many 'lines of code' are included in segwit?
Does anyone care to argue ANY valid point's regarding why a blocksize increase is a bad idea?
Quick and short list:
  • Network has practically no hard fork experience.
  • 2 MB block size limit is unsafe due to quadratic validation time - Gavin's BIP for Classic adds additional limitations to prevent this.
  • Does not improve scalability at all.
  • Does not come with any benefits besides increased TPS either.

This has all been discussed over and over in various places. This is why Segwit is the next step, it will make validation time linear among other things. I can't say whether and when a potential block size increase is going to come after Segwit.

How is scalability not improved with TPS increase?
Since everyone agrees that we will need a blocksize increase regardless of segwit, should we just wait until the network is has "more hard fork experience" ? lol
243  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns on: June 26, 2016, 10:13:37 PM
No, because one way or another, it's going up. There is no argument to be had, except the same tired old "b-b-but main chain 2MB" stuff. Knock yourself out, but I'm not interested
lol I'm talking about one line of code to help fulfill demand by users for faster confirmation times.
If everyone agrees that blocks should be larger, then please tell me why changing one line of code is a bad idea.
244  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns on: June 26, 2016, 09:57:11 PM
Does anyone care to argue ANY valid point's regarding why a blocksize increase is a bad idea?
245  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns on: June 26, 2016, 09:46:12 PM
I'm also on board with segwit but please remind me, when will segwit be implemented?
Segwit is implemented and has been recently merged for the upcoming version. Check the Github page and the commits. However, the exact details of activation have not been set yet.

No, Segwit has not been implemented. It has been merged, yes but the answer to my original question is that no one actually knows when it will be active. This is the real problem. Markets that are unable to respond to demand by the users are not free.
246  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns on: June 26, 2016, 09:31:43 PM

Dollars? eBay? What sort of Bitcoiner is this? Oh right, the sort that wants to start the 1,0001st failed attempt at a hard fork dev team coup

Can you not engage in a meaningful debate?
I don't even care if it's a hard fork or not. I'm simply stating that ANY increase in blocksize will not be the end of bitcoin. I'm also on board with segwit but please remind me, when will segwit be implemented?
247  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns on: June 26, 2016, 09:16:28 PM
Just need a winged pegasus to fly on while I'm blockchainin', and I'm good to go!
I don't think a winged pegasus would be nessisary but the following item should suffice. $549
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-2U-Server-H8DG6-F-2x-AMD-6272-2-1ghz-16-Core-128gb-9211-8i-6g-1x1200w-/371646283884?hash=item5687d8406c:g:h3UAAOSwbYZXUfpX

248  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns on: June 26, 2016, 08:58:36 PM
To those calling for further decentralization and increased censorship resistance, China has trolled you all.

We already know that larger blocks will likely become an issue for fully validating nodes behind GFW regardless of seg wit. Furthermore, no one needs to be reminded that a vast majority of hashing power is located behind the great firewall.
Why don't we kill two birds with one stone, raise the blocksize already and force China to rethink it's priorities on censorship.
Who's with me?

And to those complaining about disk space, the blockchain in it's entirety can easily fit into RAM these days!


just to clarify.. although the majority of hashpower is in china.. the POOL is not.
a simply laymans explanation is that ASIC miners do not have a hard drive.. they dont hold the blockchain. so them being behind the Chinese firewall means nothing..
their POOL which does have the blockchain, does the main job of communicating the hashes between miners, and communicates solved blocks to the world is outside the firewall. so in short the firewall is not a problem or something to be considered a reason why pools are saying/doing anything

Where is "the" pool then?

So far i found these.
f2pool stratum.f2pool.com 42.96.248.230
AS37963 Hangzhou Alibaba Advertising Co.,Ltd.
Country of Orgin: China


BTCC stratum.btcchina.com 180.97.161.9
AS4134 China Telecom Backbone
Country of Orgin: China

BW.com stratum.bw.com 120.55.153.228
AS37963 Hangzhou Alibaba Advertising Co.,Ltd.
Country of Orgin: China

You saying that BGP is lying today? lol
249  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns on: June 26, 2016, 08:38:38 PM
Why don't we kill two birds with one stone, raise the blocksize already and force China to rethink it's priorities on censorship.
Who's with me?

What are "the Chinese" censoring?

Umm. . Do you need to be reminded what firewalls implemented by governments are used for  . .

And to those complaining about disk space, the blockchain in it's entirety can easily fit into RAM these days!

Uh, you mean the everyday typical RAM amount of 80GB? Right

Everyday typical users should just use SPV clients. If you're paranoid then buy a HDD or don't use bitcoin.
250  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns on: June 26, 2016, 08:28:12 PM
To those calling for further decentralization and increased censorship resistance, China has trolled you all.

We already know that larger blocks will likely become an issue for fully validating nodes behind GFW regardless of seg wit. Furthermore, no one needs to be reminded that a vast majority of hashing power is located behind the great firewall.
Why don't we kill two birds with one stone, raise the blocksize already and force China to rethink it's priorities on censorship.
Who's with me?

And to those complaining about disk space, the blockchain in it's entirety can easily fit into RAM these days!
251  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 20, 2016, 03:55:12 PM
Unfortunately, Bitcoin Classic has not been updated to support CSV and BIP9 yet. Consequently, it will be inadvisable to mine with it after the CSV fork activates. If you try, you will probably have any blocks that you mine get orphaned. This will make other p2pool users unhappy, as you will basically be freeloading off the others in the pool. So please don't.

You can still vote for the Classic BIP109 2 MB hardfork without running Classic. You can do so quite easily in p2pool by editing the source code to bitwise OR the block version with 0x30000000. I will be doing this myself soon. Something like this should work:

    version=max(self.current_work.value['version'] | 0x30000000, 0x30000000),

If the BIP109 vote exceeds about 10-15% of the network hashrate, or if a large miner (e.g. Bitfury or Bitmain) asks me to, I will take a week and merge in CSV, BIP9, and whatever else needs merging into Classic, if Gavin and Zander haven't beaten me to it. In the mean time, I will keep voting for BIP109 but using Core, similar to what f2pool does.

Makes sense, hopefully Classic will be updated soon. I wasn't looking forward to re-building bitcoind but looks like it's necessary.
Thanks!
252  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 20, 2016, 07:35:57 AM
i'm running Classic 0.12.1 and i get
coin daemon too old! Upgrade!
unless i replace the helper.py from version 15.
Was this tested with Classic?
I don't believe Classic is signaling CSV or BIP 9, they just removed the upgrade warning from the code in 0.12.1.
253  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 20, 2016, 05:20:58 AM
I suppose i'll just dirty up the code a bit . . .
254  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 20, 2016, 04:41:32 AM
I see Classic 0.12.1 isn't supported. This just for BIP 9 compatibility or what?
255  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 20, 2016, 04:27:36 AM
Which coin daemons are supported this release? Just core 0.12.1+?
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