Gold is valuable because everyone agrees that it is valuable. And because it has been valuable through all of recorded history, the consensus is that it will retain that value for the future. That's it. There's nothing intrinsic to gold itself that makes it valuable, it's just the consensus. Many other things are stores of value, despite having no intrinsic worth. Fine art, for example. People don't buy a Van Gogh because it's a good painting, but because it's a good investment.
So is Bitcoin a better store of value than gold? Well the answer is that it depends on what people want to do with a store of value item. If all they want to do is lock it in a vault, then gold is probably good enough. But if they actually want to use it, to transfer it, and to be 100% confident in the maximum possible supply, then Bitcoin is far far superior. All that remains, however difficult that might be, is for this to become the consensus opinion.
This is false, and a lot of misinformation is your post. You say gold has no intrinsic value, this is false. Gold is the best conductor of electricity and to proof it has intrinsic value let me show you something. Fiat also has intrinsic value, since when it go's to zero you can use it to keep you warm at night or use it to wipe your ass. Thus at zero you can extract value which is it's intrinsic value. Gold at Zero you can use it's electricity conducting properties or wear it as jewelry or store it for hundreds of years and its properties will never change. This is intrinsic value because at zero I can still extract value from it! Digital fiat ( AKA Bitcoin) at zero has no intrinsic value because at zero you won't be able to do anything with it, so digital fiat has less intrinsic value than fiat!. Don't be fooled by these clowns people, they lack common sense and logic! |
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I'm done with you guys, your forum is corrupt! You all lie! You All make assumptions that fit your narrative that your riding! You ain't hurting Dean at all, your just hurting investors in ICO! Dude ain't even trying to make a freaking penny , he wants us to be made hole!
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-snip- And you're okay with the buybacks being canceled. Despite it being displayed on the ICO page. Despite there not being any stipulation stating that it could/would be removed. Despite having the resulting price of BKT be less than 50% of your original buy-in price. Despite Dean stating that buybacks would continue both on and off-forum. Despite the price calculation of tokens being a large part of the ICO. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4751127.msg51398125#msg51398125I will just drop this on top of that https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2897545.msg47592095#msg47592095And there was something about canceling wagering contest and scamming gamblers. I can only imagine someone winning national lottery and they say - " you have won $100M but we decided that we don't give a fuck about that. Here you go, a dollar. Now buzz off." LOL SCAMMED wagering contest? Its like you all ignored that its been stated many freaking times that nobody lost anything but betking investors because everyone was made hole and some people who cashed out before the cheating was caught freerolled the site and we took the loss, the fact people keep repeating this is completely absurd! |
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won big at this place and payed out instantly. I will be back Amazing that the scammer Dean Nolan did not learn his lesson. After throwing another tantrum and claiming he will leave the forum he is using multi-users to try to push his scam betking website to newbies and gullible people  Can you show proof? How exactly is it that you know this. Do you have mystical powers? It doesn't need to show some proofs because if you do try to look the history or the things been doing by Betking since from their ICO and its recent development.You would really have that question on mind on where those BKB go and now with their recent tie up with EOS which you can really presume things negatively.Try to check it out. I have that fool on IGNORE because he is behaving like he knows nothing but is after EOS tokens bounty from his friend scammer Dean Nolan All the evidence is here in the threads dedicated to betking scam and Dean Nolan scammer  He is hoping scammer Dean Nolan will throw some freebie useless and worthless EOS BKT tokens his way that is why he is doing it |
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GO READ all my responses to him that he ignored by blocking me for months! Nothing at all comes to mind? You're going to make me waste an hour looking through your posts just so that I can see when you're responding to JollyGood's claims? At least give me something here. If you can just think up ONE example of when he lied, I will acquiesce. Or better yet, if you can dig up one of your posts that directly demolishes Jolly's argument, that would be even better. Not one where you deflect and call him names. invested about € 100 in BKT coin, already made some nice profit. My $700 in BKB tokens dropped to about $7 in BKT tokens. Wait until your €100 in BKT tokens turnes into €1 of the next token Dean makes up. My crypto portfolio was 60K now its 10K crypto = scam troll No one promised your crypto portfolio would have a minimum price of 60k. (and if someone did, you were scammed). Another multi-account used to promote scammer Dean Nolan and his scam betking website Every person you have accused of being a multi account user is in fact a real user, why do you continue to lie and repeat it over and over. |
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-snip- And you're okay with the buybacks being canceled. Despite it being displayed on the ICO page. Despite there not being any stipulation stating that it could/would be removed. Despite having the resulting price of BKT be less than 50% of your original buy-in price. Despite Dean stating that buybacks would continue both on and off-forum. Despite the price calculation of tokens being a large part of the ICO. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4751127.msg51398125#msg51398125mismanaging doesn't = scam Poker failed Advertising failed and Dean came from good place when he bought unhappy people out, your basically arguing that in any shape or form Betking investors should not have lost anything despite how poorly the site did, so your basically mad because people didn't get a risk free investment. Show me where I can find risk free investment? |
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says the serial liar! Where did he lie? Don't start dismissing things without refuting them... isn't that what you wanted from me? (It is the accusers job to prove, you show me proof, I don't have to do shit amigo.) 
I'll be waiting for your response in the other thread. GO READ all my responses to him that he ignored by blocking me for months! |
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I wonder where things went wrong. He had such a good website back in the day and I'm really grateful for that. He always was a little miscalibrated but intentions were good. Then something just plummeted off of the deep end during the bear market I guess. GG
He went broke trading alt coins, according to him he was tired of alt coiners making more gains than him so he started trading and he got liquidated for everything, this is not a lie I was told to keep hush but I ain't letting this dude get away with another scam, my 30k is long gone. Now the interesting thing is to speculate is if he used ico funds to gamble on is bitmmex acc or otc trades. Fromm y point of view since the inception of Ico it seems he is doing everything in his power for it to fail. I find this post hilarious because a short while after posting it, he changed his tune and began working as an employee/volunteer on the now defunct chatbox on the betking website. From someone very upset after claiming to have invested 30,000 in the ICO, he joined serial scammer Dean Nolan in promoting and "helping out" at the betking scam. Even now he regularly pops in and out of the threads where the betking scam is discussed in order to defend serial scammer Dean Nolan says the serial liar! |
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It is the accusers job to prove, you show me proof, I don't have to do shit amigo. Unfortunately, that's the problem. You're not willing to accept the proof and you aren't willing to refute it. So what, stalemate? Are you willing to at least address your post? Why would you call it a scam and then a few months later start abhorring scam accusations? First off I originally said I was "told" and as I have seen lots of lies have been told about Dean and betking for months, and 2nd of all that was my instant reaction and I was obviously tilted, after I spoke with Dean and found out that more than 50% of original ico investors were made hole, I was able to understand what happened. Literally there is not many of us that are from ICo left, and if you been following price of BKT you would know that the price has risen at a rapid rate, Dean is doing everything he can to make us whole and all I see is you guys spewing lies,breaking forum rules, stating opinions as facts. You think your hurting Dean with this bullshit? Your only hurting Investors Dean doesn't care if he doesn't make a cent going forward his objective has been to make us whole! |
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It is the accusers job to prove, you show me proof, I don't have to do shit amigo.
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Look this forum is dying and it's filled with corrupt people like yourselves who have banded together to make false claims and assumptions based on no facts. All the people who came to Deans defense were not payed anything. I have explained this and many other things that you state as facts that are lies or assumptions and you just ignore them, and repeat it or block me. All you have done is tarnish Deans reputation with your lies and make it harder for investors to recuperate funds back, which is ironic since you act like you been concerned for their well being or even players well being, yet not 1 single player has anything bad to say. At the end of the day you have spent hundreds of hours and days spreading lies to fuck everyone over. I hope you get what you deserve eventually!
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You can not compare both gold and bitcoin, they do not have any thing in common, gold is a physical valuable, while bitcoin is a digital asset and Bitcoin has achieved more value in 10 years than gold in 1000 years.
This is inevitable, you know. People will obviously and continuously compare these two since they are great investment these days, except Gold since it's been a long time that it is a good investment. People can't invest in gold, what I am saying is that people will choose a lot of assets and they will end up to consider Bitcoin or gold, at that time they will be comparing these two though I will pick gold obviously for a safe investment, though I can't do that since I don't have that much money to invest. Buying gold is never a investment it always is a hedge against governments. If you want to invest in gold you buy gold mining stocks. |
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It's so sad to see I was right all along about Dean.
Even reading through my replies that were quoted here makes me angry.
0.5BTC I have invested in the project is worth a total of 160$.
People like him make me want to become a vigilante.
Well I bought some tokens when they were 90$ per 1 million and I sold some today at 10 sats! |
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I wonder where things went wrong. He had such a good website back in the day and I'm really grateful for that. He always was a little miscalibrated but intentions were good. Then something just plummeted off of the deep end during the bear market I guess. GG
He went broke trading alt coins, according to him he was tired of alt coiners making more gains than him so he started trading and he got liquidated for everything, this is not a lie I was told to keep hush but I ain't letting this dude get away with another scam, my 30k is long gone. Now the interesting thing is to speculate is if he used ico funds to gamble on is bitmmex acc or otc trades. Fromm y point of view since the inception of Ico it seems he is doing everything in his power for it to fail.So he admits to losing 30k but continues supporting serial scammer Dean Nolan and his betking scam. Similarities with his behaviour and those suffering from Stockholm syndrome are obvious ! I am entitled to my own opinion, and I am entitled to change my opinion, usually when you react off emotion you don't make proper judgements, this is the fact of life Liar Liar Jolly Good. |
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I wonder where things went wrong. He had such a good website back in the day and I'm really grateful for that. He always was a little miscalibrated but intentions were good. Then something just plummeted off of the deep end during the bear market I guess. GG
He went broke trading alt coins, according to him he was tired of alt coiners making more gains than him so he started trading and he got liquidated for everything, this is not a lie I was told to keep hush but I ain't letting this dude get away with another scam, my 30k is long gone. Now the interesting thing is to speculate is if he used ico funds to gamble on is bitmmex acc or otc trades. Fromm y point of view since the inception of Ico it seems he is doing everything in his power for it to fail. Well since BillyBurns is now the biggest side-kick and has a job betking chat moderator he has changed his opinion of serial scammer Dean Nolan and his betking scam website Job would mean I am being paid, I have not received a penny. I am entitled to my own opinion, and I am entitled to change my opinion, usually when you react off emotion you don't make proper judgements, this is the fact of life Liar Liar Jolly Good. |
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 The betking and scammer Dean Nolan supporting fool sent me this PM \ The bitcointalk liar JollyGood getting taste of his own medicine |
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exactly, you would mute me because you spit out bullshit and spit out logic that destroys your bullshit.
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invested about € 100 in BKT coin, already made some nice profit. My $700 in BKB tokens dropped to about $7 in BKT tokens. Wait until your €100 in BKT tokens turnes into €1 of the next token Dean makes up. My crypto portfolio was 60K now its 10K crypto = scam troll No one promised your crypto portfolio would have a minimum price of 60k. (and if someone did, you were scammed). Another multi-account used to promote scammer Dean Nolan and his scam betking website Every person you have accused of being a multi account user is in fact a real user, why do you continue to lie and repeat it over and over. |
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invested about € 100 in BKT coin, already made some nice profit. My $700 in BKB tokens dropped to about $7 in BKT tokens. Wait until your €100 in BKT tokens turnes into €1 of the next token Dean makes up. Up to about $46 in BKT now at a price of 4 satoshis.Bid is 3 sat, so that would make $34. That means it actually makes sense people are claiming they're in profit on their recent investment. Good trick: drop the value 100-fold, then it goes up 5-fold and people start shilling for it. Dean is improving the site every single day, adding player's request's, price has been up to 7 Sat and trading over 400$ per 1 million, it dropped slightly because bitcoin price spike and people fomo and sell at lower price. Halving is near, price will be 10-12 sat in just a few weeks and it will continue to rise. Real Ico investors not complaining, they see the work, they see the site profit, they see their investment in bankroll grow and they see token price rising. Nobody is unhappy but a few ridiculous trolls who have their own agenda. As someone said before nobody has anything bad to say about the experience, the only people who have anything bad to say are the people who claim that investors were ripped off, which is kinda ironic because If you ask the majority of the investors they would say these lies and false claims and accusations are the scam. |
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I was able to withdraw my BTC today. XMR still not working. I would give the BTC withdraw another try if yours is still stuck.
You were only able to withdrawal because someone deposited and the hot wallet had those funds, eventually nobody will deposit and funds will be stuck. |
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