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161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Why You wouldn't invest in this coin? theoretically and practically on: December 28, 2019, 03:11:36 AM
I have some reason why to not buying this coin

1 This is bear market, low coin volume would tend to going down. furthermore this is low and new coin

2 I dont think that real estate in crypto would be big in the future. the old project about real estate already dead

3 I have no reason why should buy this coin lol
162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price in 2020. on: December 27, 2019, 09:37:34 PM
Hopefully Ether will cost as much as possible in 2020, but if you look at the position of ETH, I'm guessing it will grow to about $500.

But the ever persistent question is when? All I know for the conditions of Ethereum recovering back to the $500 level. The first condition is that Bitcoin breaks the ATH again. Now that is a tall order when everyone is shorting and dumping Bitcoin.
I think bitcoin doesn't have to pass its ATH to make ethereum prices reach the $ 500 level. however we don't know the exact time, but it seems like many people are hoping for the development of ethereum 2.0. if it is positive, then ethereum prices will rise. I don't know whether the price will reach the level of $ 500 or not, but if it is driven by an increase in the price of bitcoin, then that can be achieved. it might be achieved in 2020.
Ethereum is on $ 125 right now, so it needs more than 3 times to get $ 500. that is a big enough to reach
altcoin usually moves in a season, that's why called altseason, when most of altcoin can grow up

altseason only happen when many people very positive with cryptocurrency. it needs some "triggers"
and Bitcoin is one of which can trigger altseason happens
163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: 10 Best performing cryptos of 2019,what have you played? on: December 27, 2019, 12:49:24 PM
Since the start of 2019, the crypto market has been on the receiving end of an insane amount of financial volatility.Recently the media listed some cryptocurrencies that have maintained a good financial status throughout the year, but not named Bitcoin.

They are ETH, EOS, BNB, BFT, XTZ, XNX, BCH, ATOM, LTC, BAT.

Do you agree this list or any other additions? Smiley

may we know what media you mean?

I think Bitcoin should be on the list. it is the good coin that should give more attention
furthermore for long term investment, Bitcoin is a must being listed
In 2019, Bitcoin increased more than 3 times from $ 3,500 to $ 13,000
164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: sell bitcoin to buy fiat or altcoin? on: December 27, 2019, 11:51:18 AM
I am not a supporter of the idea of selling bitcoin for altcoins, This time is good for increasing the amount of bitcoin, Bitcoin has not reached its highest price yet, We must not hurry to sell and make the wrong decision, but you have to be patient until the price of bitcoin rises and makes good profits so then you can buy promising altcoins with a portion of these profits, Or at this time, you can set aside a portion of your money to buy promising cheap altcoins without selling your bitcoins.
the sentiment can change as time goes by. at this time, I agree that selling Bitcoin for altcoin isn't good idea
but this thread was made from july 2018, in that time, altcoin is in good time for buying

so, Im not doubt why the OP asked like this. It would change too in the future
just our wise to know what strategy which is suitable for every sentiment.
165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will 2020 be bearish as well? on: December 27, 2019, 06:00:46 AM
The long bull market for BTC means a long bear market for the altcoins until BTC price becomes stable at one point. The altcoins follow the BTC price and the reaction of altcoin happens quicker, this depend on the few variables: The investors sell altcoins and they invest this amount to BTC. Or fresh money enters the crypto markets and this money directly goes to the BTC market.
so, when could Bitcoin become stable at one point?
Instead of Bitcoin is a high volatile class asset. I am just curious what you mean by "stable"

In other hand, I agree that Bitcoin movement can trigger altcoin. in this time, BTC up alt down, BTC down alt down.
but it isn't always like that, look at early 2018. BTC up alt up. that's in altseason

all we need is altseason to get altcoin pump. that's all
166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoins to go crazy again once Bitcoin reaches 20k? on: December 27, 2019, 02:45:33 AM
Yes it's really possible for altcoins to bulk once btc bulls. This is widely because of the fact that major altcoins bull whenever bitcoin bulls. So it's very possible for these alts to bull once btc crosses or reaches its ATH. The question should be,will btc ever reach its ATH?
Dont need to worry. until now, Bitcoin is still on track, you can see how good the rhyme Bitcoin is
Bitcoin always reachs ATH after halving. it happened in 2017 and 2013/2014

so we just wait what Bitcoin would do in 2020. bcz in that year can be based on what would happen in 2021
I still believe that Bitcoin would repeat history itself
167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Has the crypto market reached its bottom yet? on: December 26, 2019, 11:33:20 PM
I remember in December 2018 bitcoin reached to the bottom around $3200 so I guess the market was already reached to the bottom. Hopefully in the next year we can see the better market.
Just think about the improvement of the bottom price of bitcoin. in 2018 the bottom should be around 4k but this year the bottom price was around 7k and next year it may be take 10k or above as the next bottom. Usually the bottom price must be the double price from the previous bottom price.
unfortunately, the bottom can't always be rhythmic
look at bull run in late 2017, the price pump so crazy make the bottom can't good drawn

this is volality market, which can't be precised 100%
art of trading showed by the chart.
168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin Boom to $100K Will Destroy Altcoins on: December 26, 2019, 09:48:28 PM
not all altcoins will die. maybe history like 2017 will repeat itself. right now I think big altcoins might like ethereum, xrp and others will still be able to survive if altcoin is priced at $ 100k but altcoin with low prices, low volume and also less interested. will definitely fall
Altcoin will loss its value and it's possible. You must not take the old history of the altcoin as a good information to determine where will the market be going on as so many experts have been doing the same and they are all getting failed to predict where is the direction of the market.
altcoin will loss its value, it is possible
altcoin will increase its value, it is possible too

if we dont take from history, then what is function of technical analysis?
if some people fail, it doesn't mean all people failed too.

every analysis is to predict almost right, not to be 100% right. that's what should we know
169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: When next bull run happen?? on: December 26, 2019, 08:49:20 PM
Hopefully the next bull run will be next year, but I'm not sure if it will be next year, most likely the next bull run will take place in 2021-2022.
I just thinking like that as the halving time will bring the impact for the long term. I don't expect that to happen next year and i believe after the halving time and there will be a short term dump in the bitcoin market. The halving needs take a lot of time to show its impact to the price of bitcoin or even whole of market.
IMO next year would be good year for crypto. But do NOT expecting next year would be same as 2017
you will be dissapointed. to be like 2017, I think it still needs more time, as you said 2021-2022

but one thing I believe that crypto can be pump whenever it is
bcz whales is easy to pump this small liquidity assets
170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price in 2020. on: December 26, 2019, 10:33:53 AM
If we carry out a technical analysis of the ETH for all the time, then this year there was a rebound from the top of two years ago about 400 dollars and a return to the base of the "head and shoulders" figure of about 100 dollars. If you look at the price chart like this, then next year we will not go above $ 500, but we can go below 100.

Everyone knows that technical analysis does not work on the cryptocurrency market. Technical analysis was created in markets that have many times more capitalization. It is better to flip a coin than to base investments in cryptocurrencies on technical analysis. The cryptocurrency market is constantly evolving, so prices must also rise in the long run.
sometimes, people can't use technical analysis well, but they blame that technical analysis doesn't work at all
That's what I see from many traders

But I still wonder why some trader is successfull in short crypto trading, arent they just gamble their money? I dont think so
Technical analysis still takes part for predicting price, especially in short term
171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: MATIC LOW PRICE AND THE BEST CHOICE TO BUY NOW on: December 26, 2019, 12:53:31 AM
This is pure manipulation, Pump and Dump scheme in this coins. even I never seen the coin which dump so hard in big volume
maybe this is the worst coin I ever seen. Im sure that last Big dump made many investors affraid
Imagine that Matic is one of IEO Binance, good development, but still get worse manipulation
You can't even prove it if that was a manipulation that has already created by the team. if you are watching correctly and the tokens are coming from the team's wallet and there is not manipulation.
The matic team itself who has been doing the manipulation. But the matic team is blaming the big holders of matic and just try to ask which is the address that can be considered as a matic whale who has already dumped a lot of coins to the market and where are from the whale getting the tokens?
I think he made an answer like that because of his frustration at an IEO project, especially now that price manipulation and market volume often occur to boost popularity. and this just happens to be Matic.
if only I bought Matic and it suddenly happened like that then one thing is for sure I would think like that.
What the heck!! this is clearly manipulation, it is very unlikely that prices will fall suddenly, then who has that many coins to drop the price quickly if not the Matic team itself.
roughly if I positioned it will think like that. but if positioned outsiders, woohoo this is the right time to buy Matic, I have seen the project there is great potential, I believe this is only a moment of panic.
If sharp drops drops do occur then theres no doubt but we cant point out if its manipulation or just simply a huge self off but it would depend on when it do happen.
If it happens after launching on an exchange then its sell off but after that time if sharp spikes and drops happen then its pure manipulation.Talking about Matics
potential then i can say that this project is worth but i havent pulled my trigger yet to jump in and wait a little more for re-entering on its possible lowest price.
I dont say who already made the manipulation.

But sharp drop after pump is pure manipulation. this is pump and dump scheme. that's all
the market needs correction but it doesn't mean sharp drop like matic. correction needs to be natural market

I never been frustation or any bad pshycology. I usually use stop loss to avoid the manipulation like this
172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: if you have 1 btc what would be the coin that you buy and hold ? on: December 25, 2019, 02:04:44 PM
Maybe if I have 1btc I will continue to trade daily and not choose any altcoin.
Daily trading is more profitable than choosing altcoin, which may not necessarily be held for a long time to make a profit.
what?do you know what you're talking about?day trading but will not use altcoin?do you understand how stupid this answer is?
bitcoin is not gaining daily besides most of the time it loses value so how can it be profitable?next time before putting comments make sure that you understand the meaning.

for day trading it is altcoins or tokens is what mostly uses because they are the one who has a chance of pumping and dumping and not Bitcoin.specially in our time now that bitcoin is really bleeding.
Bitcoin isn't too volatile as others coin, but it doesn't mean not suitable for daily trading
daily trading needs high liquidity and Bitcoin can give it better than others coin

to get good profit, daily trader usually uses margin to be leverage their position
so, they can get good profit even on low volality coin (Bitcoin).
173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is the market currently being manipulated? on: December 25, 2019, 11:41:38 AM
~snip~

Manipulators, group of people, can move the market with carefully planed action. Its not just buying or selling huge amounts of coins, its pushing news and headlines that will lead masses to do what this group of manipulators wants them to do, add to that trolls that will spam social networks and forums with informations that suits their agenda.
Manipulations with markets, with all markets, are old as markets exist, big players will always have advantage, group of big players can move the market in the direction they want if they know how. We can't do nothing about that, at least with crypto we will have more transparency then we have with fiat.
yes, the whales is.

so, it is just matter of how we follow them. if we can follow them, we can take our own sake
but if we can't, we will lose our money. always learning whales behaviour is the way
How can you follow the whales when you can't even see what the whales have been thinking about the market? it looks like people are loosing his mind caused by the manipulation of the market that always related to the whales. Exchange site is also having a big role in the market manipulation. I may take all of the possibilities.
yes we can't see the whales, but it doesn't mean there is no whales
we can't know exactly what strategy does whale use, but it doesn't mean it can't be detected

there are a sign in the market that show whale behaviour, if we are strict to see in the market
i.e before pump and dump scheme happened, the volume increased so heavy
174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: TAP (XTP) Will be Listed on Bittrex on: December 25, 2019, 10:18:00 AM
After I see, STP already down half price in Bittrex.Global. It was 500 sats in the first listing then 288 now
But it reachs top volume in pair BTC, not so bad

PS: I just knewn MTO (Micro Token Offering)
175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is the market currently being manipulated? on: December 25, 2019, 08:30:20 AM
Markets are being manipulated by the whales when every they want, but whenever the price of Bitcoin is increasing/decreasing it is effecting the altcoin prices. Even potential coins are losing their value in the market, which we don't know whether altcoin reached their downtrend level. Most of the people who believed in altcoin have already lost their asset value.


Manipulators, group of people, can move the market with carefully planed action. Its not just buying or selling huge amounts of coins, its pushing news and headlines that will lead masses to do what this group of manipulators wants them to do, add to that trolls that will spam social networks and forums with informations that suits their agenda.
Manipulations with markets, with all markets, are old as markets exist, big players will always have advantage, group of big players can move the market in the direction they want if they know how. We can't do nothing about that, at least with crypto we will have more transparency then we have with fiat.
yes, the whales is.

so, it is just matter of how we follow them. if we can follow them, we can take our own sake
but if we can't, we will lose our money. always learning whales behaviour is the way
176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoin bubble by 2023; capitalization up to 150 times, a research suggests on: December 25, 2019, 07:04:50 AM
well , that a huge prediction , i mean if that really happen , actually we will see some signal as the time goes, i mean , ok we cant say that prediction is wrong or true, but if it going to be true , price , domination of bitcoin , must be raising every year.
but now , i cant see any signal about it.
if we compare Bitcoin with others assets, it would still be smaller. so, it is very possible to get crazy pump
and remember that Bitcoin can pump very fast, looking at end 2017
so, it doesn't take raising every year for getting crazy pump
177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Which will be the most valuable altcoin? on: December 23, 2019, 10:30:10 PM
For me there are a lot of valuable alts on the market, mostly all top coins, for example I consider valuable alts - ether, litecoin, bnb and others.
yes, top altcoin is more promising than the others. they would be possible the valuable altcoin
so, This is just matter of how we take them to our own sake. bcz I think it is useless if there are many good altcoin but we can't take profit from them

That's in individual view, but in general, it is still usefull
178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoins to go crazy again once Bitcoin reaches 20k? on: December 23, 2019, 09:13:17 PM
Most likely because alts are dependent on Bitcoin, if Bitcoin grows to $20,000, you should definitely wait for the alts season.
yes it is, if Bitcoin dominance can't decrease, altseason can't happen too
so we still have to wait the Bitcoin dominance decreasing so much to see big altseason

That's what the market tells us in last altseason.
179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will 2020 be bearish as well? on: December 23, 2019, 07:53:28 PM
Based on the last halving, Bitcoin always gets pump after halving happened
halving would happen in 2020 so it wouldn't be bearish anymore

when Bitcoin is pump, altcoin will follow it
But, I think not all altcoin can follow, just the good one
180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price in 2020. on: December 23, 2019, 01:22:55 AM
very dependent ? i dont see any fact about it ?
about their blockchain, of course we know exactly eth is mother of ico, but if eth fall even to 1 buck, it not make any affect because it.
but the good news , eth v2 will come.

I think lots of the Erc20 coins coming from the ICO are too much dependent on the ETH. The companies has raised funds mainly using the ETH so clearly ETH must play a vital role here.
many tokens created using Ethereum platform, and fundrasing with Ethereum too
But it doesnt mean that Both price is correlated. I never know any study the correlation (or may I miss smth)
Bitcoin is which more important to affect other coin/token. There are many study that proves correlation between Bitcoin and altcoin

This is one example: https://www.binance.com/en/blog/389353380087320576/Binance-Research-Studies-Bitcoin-Dominance-Altcoin-Correlations-in-Q3
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