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is this coin dead already?
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2M ready for sale in 30 Min,
0.15 BTC / M
Get em fresh, get em hott...jut matured Ducknotes right out the oven for you.
SOLD
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solo has been good to me. |
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Ohhhhhh!! info EASILY found online! 2 minutes!! Oh forgive me oh wise one!
Even if they could, doesn't mean anyone should have to compile a wallet to mine on a system that is not their native choice.
First of all, we're talking about a brand new algorithm. It's not going to have broad acceptance at launch regardless of whether you have a windows/mac wallet available with the source. If you want to work in the cutting edge of technology, you should be sophisticated and TECHNOLOGICALLY savvy enough to do a little research about the arena you're working within. Secondly, those instructions you pasted are how to compile bitcoind ON WINDOWS. Not that I want to invite any more competitors to these cpu coin launches, but do a quick search on cloud mining. I'll give you the 5 steps you need to complete: 1. Load up an instance in your cloud provider of choice 2. Install the dependencies necessary to build a wallet (you can copy and paste this from your cloud mining guide search - it's one to two lines) 3. Download the wallet from github 4. make -f makefile.unix 5. RELISH IN THE FACT THAT YOU ARE SOOOO MUCH SMARTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE THAT DOESN'T WANT TO DEDICATE THE ENERGY TO FIGURING OUT HOW TO DO THAT. Feel free to leave me a tip for the advice: 1HXnjk7aWNAnQMUh2EjW4CM6duNJLvF1x9 i think he pissed tried to piss you off specifically so you'd spill the beans ... "Mighty" in his name is just overcompensation. |
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Thank you everyone for the feedback. At relaunch will be properly prepared.
I will get the following sorted/done and relaunch.
1) I will have working web wallet and website. As the blockchain gets longer if downloading the entire blockchain for the first time it may take a long time to verify the blockchain because the ramhog algorithm requires multiple scratchpads to verify a hash.
2) I will add support for looking up a wallet userid on both the client and website. Adding a userid to an address is working, but there wasnt the functionality of lookup on the client
3) I will have source as well as linux, windows, and mac binaries on github well before launch. At the time of launch will release a config file with genesis block and will release exact time of launch.
4) I will modify the algorithm to scale up the amount of coin released linearly for the first two days, so that someone mining starting an hour in doesn't miss much.
5) I will seed many servers to prevent the DDoS nonsense
6) Currently looking into setting up p2p mining pool, will let everyone know about that.
Will post times of code and launch when I know exactly. Shouldn't be too long.
That's cool, i registered the reddit if you tell me your username i'll make you a mod there and you should probably look into hanging out in the #shinycoin channel on freenode during dev/launch. At least to work out the first few bugs. |
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WTS: 22k SHC  Lol WTS: original block chain Shiny coin, 170k SHC for 10 BTC. |
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+1
I really hope to see new launch in this or next month. Please give some time to dev to fix things!
And you, primer- & o3u, get da fuck out of here!!!!
I see that everyone's problem is with the initial node not having enough connections, yes, that is a failure in the launch because one person (unfortunately not me) was able to get the first blocks and block out the rest of the people. However, i was willing to accept that that is part of the game. You guys are all greedy, so am i, and so is whoever got there first and hogged all connexions to the seed node. The difference is, while you were whinning and not cooperating (i posted askng people to join IRC to discuss this) I continued and kept on trying until i could get blocks, For the dev, yes it's a bad decision to have short block time but that's something you should know if you're going to make a coin. Yes, it's a bad decision as well to only have one seed node, and yes it's a bad decision to disappear right after pushing the code to github! But these mistakes are what make the coin more fair for those who REALLY want to mine it. BEcause we actually persist instead of whining. and it's a shame anyone would complain about not having access to linux, it's widely available from digitalocean to whatever free shell host online. Stop crying. Winblowz is not free/available. There's nothing i can do now to convince you the longest/oldest blockchain is the best and i've stopped mining the first shinycoin mostly, but i hope you will not keep me or the others in the dark for the next launch.... and add a link below here, i really like this algo and hope to mine it. |
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I cant transfer my coins out, it keeps giving me timeout error.
Is there a new wallet?
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And now it's canceled? The relaunch should compensate those of us who mined the first time. Some people spent good money on AWS instances for this.
Very uncool.
Keep mining! New development team has taken over and will be posting details soon! You've got to be fucking kidding me. Dude... do you see what you look like to everyone else? This launch happens, its broken by design, only a small select group of people are able to mine it. You and a couple other people corner the market on mining power. Obviously theres not much competition. The dev finally admits his mistake which is a positive thing for the community because it allows us to move forward. And you and o3u don't want this relaunch to happen (remember, the one thats good for the community) because you have a controlling stake in the unfair launch that happened. It's like theres a race, and the judge holds up his pistol, the pistol never goes off but you and some other guy start running anyway. The judge says "hey no one else was able to start you guys got an unfair head start, so we're gonna start over". You are seriously going to say to that judge: "But I already ran all this distance! It's not fair I should have to start on the same playing field as everyone else!" Are you guys seriously gonna be those guys?Your complaining about wasting money on mining and you think the whole community should just give you guys a majority stake in what could become a global currency because you mined for 8 hours? Seriously? Take a step back from this situation and try to look at it from other peoples perspective. Its less than a day of lost mining. You wouldn't be trying to keep a corrupt system in place if you didn't have an unfair amount rewarded for that 8 hours of mining. And please o3u don't say you "worked on this coin". You spent less than half a day mining it. Yes, lot of hard work you put into this. And your reward should be 20% of all the coins obviously!! Chode.  primer- and i have already said we would use our mined coins to make this project better, the dev clearly did not work on the marketing of this coin. We can do that. The development as well will be funded with these coins. This coin has great potential, but is still unheard of, a relaunch is gonna be just as bad if it's the same dev doing it. edit: i had to fight throught he bugs and not know what's going on for the first few hundred blocks, but after that i started finding blocks, and so i will donate these to the bounty fund. |
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i offered to build the windows wallet, no one took my offer.
I posted the Windows and Mac wallets for free, there's no need to post an offer of 1 BTC to build a Windows wallet -- it makes no sense as that is not a proper launch. There are several reasons sunny prince cancelled the launch and as original developer this is his and only his decision. I'd also like to point out that one of the reasons - me running a rogue node - is bullshit - not even technologically doable. The coin is broken in the way it handles nodes, it connects to only one peer. I myself asked for help on connecting servers to more than one peer early after launch. Once i figured it out and changed the code i posted my node ip so others could connect and therefore limit the orphans as my node had better connectivity than 3-4 nodes available. And why was this decision taken If I may ask? Decision to abandon project by the dev ? I guess his nodes did not have good connectivity and mined stale/orphaned blocks. No instamine - no dev. EDIT: I'd rather donate all mined coins to a new reputable dev than work with the old incompetent dev again. I agree, I am still mining this coin, and i will keep a few miners up, if you're all continuing to mine this coin, don't stop, i propose we keep the premine for bounties and fair redistributions. We can start a pool an exchange for ths coin if no one takes it, but getting screwed like this by the dev, on a coin with an otherwise nice algorithm is just unfair. |
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i offered to build the windows wallet, no one took my offer.
I posted the Windows and Mac wallets for free, there's no need to post an offer of "1 BTC to build the Windows wallet" -- it makes no sense as that is not a proper launch. There are several reasons sunny prince cancelled the launch and as original developer this is his and only his decision. Sorry, you have no choice but to face that this original project will start from scratch, just like all the others who happened to have mined early on (including me). THere's nothing new, i had no blocks for the first 100 or so and i didnt get any coins, didnt even know if was getting any unorphaned until i reached the 100's... I couldnt connect to the first node either until primer- contributed his node, that's how p2p works! everyone collaborates, not WHINEs. I asked for 1BTC was a simple number. Because for me to make an effort at 3 AM that's what it takes. I did not need this windows wallet and i would have done it for any bounty... if these idiots stop crying. Now that i own a lot i'd be willing to donate to faussets, or whatever so the n00bs can get some, but not a relaunch. I owned 30-40 % of PTS hashrate for a while during the first week or so, did that coin relaunch? no... it's one of the most successful coins. and i don t have most of mine!!! I sold them cheap to people who cant mine. i offered to build the windows wallet, no one took my offer.
I posted the Windows and Mac wallets for free, there's no need to post an offer of 1 BTC to build a Windows wallet -- it makes no sense as that is not a proper launch. There are several reasons sunny prince cancelled the launch and as original developer this is his and only his decision. I'd also like to point out that one of the reasons - me running a rogue node - is bullshit - not even technologically doable. The coin is broken in the way it handles nodes, it connects to only one peer. I myself asked for help on connecting servers to more than one peer early after launch. Once i figured it out and changed the code i posted my node ip so others could connect and therefore limit the orphans as my node had better connectivity than 3-4 nodes available. I'm not the only one who worked on this coin and is now being ripped off. |
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I am glad the few people who posted about the ideas appreciated them. Thank you to all the people that sent logo ideas and provided complete binaries. Your work is much appreciated. Here is ShinyCoin's new logo thanks for flubber:  I only care about the ideas and distributing the coin that uses them fairly. Based on what happened it's safe to say the distribution was nowhere near fair. Within a few minutes of launch, the seed node already had 125 connections (the max cap). This is why nobody could connect to it. Most of the connections are from very similar a.b.?.? IPs. The fact that the seed has so many peers, but everybody else has only one or two, makes it clear that there was an attack. It has splintered the network and is the cause of all the stale blocks everyone has been getting. The initial difficulty I chose was too low, and PeerCoin's dificulty adjustment algorithm did not adjust fast enough. There should be a block every 2.5 minutes or so, not every ten seconds. All this means one or a few people have been getting a bigger part of the initial distribution than they should be. Plus it is true that without a windows wallet, many interested people could not mine the coin. I don't have much time nowadays but the windows wallet is more important than I thought. The innovations were my prime consideration, but this all goes hand in hand I suppose. I also find it insulting to see posts about my alleged pseudo-premine, that I launched without binaries to corner the market or something. The more people interested, the more value those coins will be, and I'll be satisfied if the coin is used. I consider this launch a failure. I implore everyone to stop mining instantly as a criminal now holds more than 70% of the 100.000+ newly minted coins. I will not support this coin, certainly nobody else will. The coin will relaunch soon enough with all of this taken into consideration and protected against. I will not let a small group of people illegitimately profit from my innovations. primer-, you and your kind are the ones that ruin the altcoin community. I apologise to the legitimate miners that joined the coin early, but I caught the ploy quickly and stopped the thievery as soon as I could. Expect an exact relaunch date and time announcement in a few days when I know better what my schedule will be like. Sunny Prince a relaunch is completely unfair, i'm still mining the coin and i worked hard to do it on time. I've got a large part of the original coins because i worked through all the bugs, and tried to share on the forum before all the trolls came, no one was talking, i even invited everyone on the IRC. I have >20% of the coin because i did it right. Now you're going to pull the plug on me because you didnt get any? or some trols didnt? You did it right the first time, bugs are part of the game they weed out the weak. These people should not have coins, the blockchain is based on "Proof of work" not proof of whine, and that should be transcend the coin and protocol on top of it. That is how you get fair distribution, i offered to build the windows wallet, no one took my offer. Edit: i've also spent a lot of money on mining this correctly, are the trolls going to refund me now ? |
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Riiiight, because anyone using linux or that can assemble all the crap dependencies to compile a wallet would NEVER, EVER.... EVVERRR sell any cryptocoins.... EVER!! The only noobtard here sir, is you. What an ignorant and presumptious comment to make. I won't even point out the fallacy that if you have more people mining a currency, the difficulty is higher, each person gets less of those coins and so those coins are worth more.Right now you are just centralizing the coins in the hands of a select few, which means each person got more coins for less work, which means they are worth less to that person, which means they will dump more of them for less.But I wouldn't point that out, because that would make you look and feel stupid.  We're 1000 blocks in...you guys are seriously worried about a COMPLETELY CENTRALIZED CURRENCY after 5 hours of mining? what is it you want? stop whining... you need a windows wallet? i'll compile one for you, 1 BTC. you can use escrow. just stop whining, start mining, and leave this coin be the way it was. |
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Hello sunny, You do realize what is going on here right? I've been trying to mine this for a few hours and have put a few things together. Consider: 1) I can't connect to the node you posted. Whenever I do connect, I immediately get disconnected. Ok, maybe there are too many connections (wow, very popular coin!) 2) primer- posts a "super node", 144.76.139.178:21316. I add it to my node list and the daemon immediately starts downloading blocks. Looks like his node is great! 3) Yet, if there are so many connections (CogPrimus posted that he had 997 peers), where are all the peers? I am only connected to the "super node" and maybe sometimes one other node. 4) Yet here are a bunch of us posting hashrates and clearly mining. Conclusion: primer-'s super node is not well-behaved: it isn't giving us each other's peer info. Further: 5) All of us are complaining about stale blocks. I've generated 5 or 6 blocks yet each one except the first has been a stale block. 6) Yet the blocks aren't being generated *that* quickly. Only one every 10-40 seconds. Someone is putting a lot of computing power here, which is fine, that is how PoW works, but the hash power isn't as if 997 separate parties were immediately interested in the coin! It is extremely unlikely that the stale would all be naturally orphaned. 7) Also, every once in awhile I get a burst of 5-6 blocks all at once.  Keep that in mind and take into account that just about everyone is connected to that "super node" only ("144.76.139.178:21316") Conclusion? Someone is DOSing ShinyCoin! Step 1: Flood the legitimate seed node with thousands of connections so that nobody can connect to it. Step 2: Post a helpful "super node" for everybody to connect to. Step 3: Don't advertise peers from the super node. Step 4: When anyone sends you a block they mine, discard it. Step 5: When you mine a block, send it to the seed node and propagate it to the network. Step 5b: If someone mines a few blocks in a row, keep mining until you have enough ready to overpower them, then propagate yours all at once. Result: You are the only one generating any coins! At some point you can then stop DOSing the seed node, the network carries on, and you have a nice few hundred thousand shiny coins to play with if anything comes of the alt coin. I strongly recommend addressing this by re-launching the coin, with multiple nodes, and a way to protect against this kind of attack. Cheers You know how you protect against this kind of attack? You release a god damn windows version at launch and pretend you know anything about doing business in a mature and professional manner. We can only assume not releasing a windows binary on launch is equivalent to instamining your own coin. Theres no other explanation for not taking the time to create windows/mac versions other than wanting to reduce the amount of competition on launch. We know this because anyone with half a brain can see that in order for their coin to succeed and thrive it must be presented in a fair and legitimate fashion. Releasing your currency in a way that only (i'm just going to guess) 10-20% of the market can access it and telling the rest that they are on their own is a ridiculous way to present something non-trivial. So by using common sense we can see that the developer is not interested in creating a lasting product, but ensuring that he gets paid. The sad thing is that if he wanted to take a premine no one would have cared if he took 1%. Maybe he just wanted more than 1%? Who knows  Not releasing a windows binary at launch makes this coin n00btard proof. That's excellent. N00btards have been pumping and dumping coins for the past 6 months and it's a pain. |
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Things seem to be a bit strange, plus the thread subject is still [PRE-ANN]. Maybe a relaunch would be a good idea?
Please no relaunch, this would be unfair for those of us who did things right the first time. edit: this is the first coin that was like one of the earlier alt's in the way it launched: no massive inflow of instaminers, due to the complicated setup and complex setup for mining the coin, this is excellent.... but with a relaunch, all the troll n00bs are going to instamine it and just dump it like the shitcoins they've been used to. |
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Thanks. I do see those so I am mining.
I just seen under that "hashpersec":0 and thought I wasn't doing anything.
EDIT: Why does my cpu load not change? Usually th cores run 99-100%
Ya hashpersec is very low, 0.something, if you can find debug.log in %appdata%/shinycoin you can probably see it there, It's a memory intensive coin, more than CPU intensive i guess. Hello sunny, You do realize what is going on here right? I've been trying to mine this for a few hours and have put a few things together. Consider: 1) I can't connect to the node you posted. Whenever I do connect, I immediately get disconnected. Ok, maybe there are too many connections (wow, very popular coin!) 2) primer- posts a "super node", 144.76.139.178:21316. I add it to my node list and the daemon immediately starts downloading blocks. Looks like his node is great! 3) Yet, if there are so many connections (CogPrimus posted that he had 997 peers), where are all the peers? I am only connected to the "super node" and maybe sometimes one other node. 4) Yet here are a bunch of us posting hashrates and clearly mining. Conclusion: primer-'s super node is not well-behaved: it isn't giving us each other's peer info. Further: 5) All of us are complaining about stale blocks. I've generated 5 or 6 blocks yet each one except the first has been a stale block. 6) Yet the blocks aren't being generated *that* quickly. Only one every 10-40 seconds. Someone is putting a lot of computing power here, which is fine, that is how PoW works, but the hash power isn't as if 997 separate parties were immediately interested in the coin! It is extremely unlikely that the stale would all be naturally orphaned. 7) Also, every once in awhile I get a burst of 5-6 blocks all at once. Keep that in mind and take into account that just about everyone is connected to that "super node" only ("144.76.139.178:21316") Conclusion? Someone is DOSing ShinyCoin! Step 1: Flood the legitimate seed node with thousands of connections so that nobody can connect to it. Step 2: Post a helpful "super node" for everybody to connect to. Step 3: Don't advertise peers from the super node. Step 4: When anyone sends you a block they mine, discard it. Step 5: When you mine a block, send it to the seed node and propagate it to the network. Step 5b: If someone mines a few blocks in a row, keep mining until you have enough ready to overpower them, then propagate yours all at once. Result: You are the only one generating any coins! At some point you can then stop DOSing the seed node, the network carries on, and you have a nice few hundred thousand shiny coins to play with if anything comes of the alt coin. I strongly recommend addressing this by re-launching the coin, with multiple nodes, and a way to protect against this kind of attack. Cheers no need for relaunch... it's fine, just sign of life from op would be great. |
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I have tried "setgenerate true" and "setgenerate true -1" and still cant get the cpu mining. Is there something I am missing. I looked in the appdata debug but can't find it in there also.
Thanks
setgenerate true -1 then you can type getmininginfo and if you see generate: true then you're mining genproclimit: -1 that means you're using as much as you can... 1 is sufficient though since it seems its not optimized Right now we need a pool |
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is the dev in the thread?
there may be a fork... what is everyone's block height, and what nodes is evryone using..
im on block 700 can get some nodes? addnode=144.76.139.178:21316 |
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