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1341  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will you stay in crypto if BTC does not recover? on: April 09, 2018, 07:42:06 AM
Hi,

Just wondering if you guys will stay in crypto (aka hold or sell your BTC holdings) if the price does not recover.

Lets say we are still around 6k-7k by December 2018 => Will you wait it out or give up and say "OK, we had a nice ride but we are not going up again"?

What about if in 2019 price is still hovering around 6k-7k and there is no sign of recovery to 10k+ (or even a new ATH)
Yep i will stay in crypto, cryptocurrency is a big thing though and it's not always about bitcoin but yeah bitcoin is really a big coin which can give a big impact to all cryptocurrency. What i'm waiting is another big blockchain such universa and credits in the next few years will become big like bitcoin.
1342  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Daneel.io: The First A.I Created To Help Cryptocurrency Investors on: April 09, 2018, 05:18:33 AM
sampai sekarang belum ada kejelasan kapan pendistribusian nya, di tread utama juga sepi gak ada pembahasan tentang proyek dari dev
peminat token daneel juga sepi di HitBtc Sad


Harus ditunggu gan,,dengan kondisi pasar crypto kayak sekarang ini juga riskan kalau mau distribusi token untuk pesrta bounti nya,,bisa berakibat buruk untuk harga jual token nya,mungkin nanti kalau harga tokennya ini sudah bagus baru akan di bagikan
untuk keadaan pasar yang lagi merosot memang diperlukan kesabaran, banyak ico yang bagus dan sukses mencapai hard-cap tapi nyatanya ketika masuk pada exchanger haragnya bisa down jauh. itu memang sudah banyak ditemukan proyek seperti ini karena kondisi btc yang masih belum stabil.

yang di bahas pendistribusian token bukan masalah masuj exchanger. di group tele juga gak ada kepastian
penghitungan stake campaign yang baru aja gak kelar2. tread utama juga mati gak ada diskusi
yang sabar aja. untuk distribusi biasanya akan dilakukan sebulan dari selesainya ico. jadi paling tidak sekitar 2 mingguan lagi. tapi itu cuma perkiraan ane aja. yah semoga saja para peserta disini bisa distribusi secepatnya.
atau malah yang bounty 1 yang bakalan gajian duluan soalnya kan token udah selesai dihitung ketika sylon yang pegang.
seharusnya jika memang benar begitu tinggal bikin pengumuman saja di thread utama jika distribusi akan dilakukan setelah market agak stabil  Cheesy
biar para peserta tidak selalu bertanya tentang kapan distribusi, karena tidak ada jaminan 1-2 bulan kedepan market akan stabil.
untuk distribusi kita belum tahu kapan jadwal yang pasti akan di lakukan proses distribusi, walaupun belum distribusi tetapi sudah ada di listing pada hitbtc jadi bisa melihat berapa penghasilan jika di jual saat ini
harganya cukup murah dihitbtc gan , cuma 294 satosi saja gan.apa bener yang tickernya DAN untuk daneel.io ini gan.rate ico dulu berapa nih gan.
Wah murah juga ya harganya di hitbtc cuman segitu harganya, emang pas ICO harganya berapa gan per ETH ? Padahal ini aja belom didistribusiin tokennya jadi belom ada pengaruh dari bounty hunter, apalagi entar pas udah didistribusikan bisa bisa harga turuh lagi jauh karena bounty hunter bakala ngejualin tokennya.
1343  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL! on: April 08, 2018, 01:58:03 PM
I read most of the people here telling it was staged, I agree with you all. It's a pure business as usual.

After Conor McGregor fought inside the boxing ring I lose trust in him or maybe to the whole boxing industry and UFC because dignity as a fighter is not an issue to them anymore for as long as they get a big paycheck at the end of the day. Entertainment at its finest, you can really feel who is true and not nowadays, let them do what they want though but only those gullible will believe this shits.
No way it was staged, He is in jail right now bro because his stupid decision on the bus. I mean why they staged this? McGregor is so damn rich and i'm sure he still has much money from the last "money" fight against mayweather. What i want right now is McGregor vs Nurmagomedov!
1344  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Global Cryptocurrency] Apakah Anda Pernah berfikir Seperti ini? on: April 08, 2018, 10:47:49 AM
Kebetulan ane pernah lihat graphic harga bitcoin disetiap awal tahun dari sekitar tahun 2013/14 sampai sekarang dan emang hasilnya itu setiap awal bulan di tahun yang baru pasti mengalami penurunan tapi baru kali ini memang yang paling parah menurut ane soalnya sampai diatas 50% penurunannya di harga bitcoin dan altcoin lainnya.

Q2 2018 emang udah disaat ini kita, cuma sampai sekarang sayangnya belom ada tanda tanda kenaikan harga cryptocurrency. Ane harap bulan ini mulai ada tanda tanda kenaikan, walaupun perlahan tapi yang penting naik.
1345  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Salary Paid in Bitcoin - would you do it? on: April 08, 2018, 07:32:38 AM
I think with the current price of bitcoin and the market condition that is really unstable, people will not do it and the company owner also will not accept bitcoin for salary because the price of bitcoin is really unstable is the biggest reason why it's hard to implement bitcoin as a salary paid.
1346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: I think this year 1 eth will peak at $ 2000 on: April 08, 2018, 05:40:32 AM
what do people think ??
Once a year reached a new peak, last year was $ 1,500, this year will be $ 2,000 "may"
It seems too good to be true, as you can see the price of ethereum is really down right now and i'm not even sure Ethereum price can back to $1,000 in this year. 8 months left in this year and anything still can happen in the rest of this year and i hope cryptocurrency back to the top again like last year.
1347  Economy / Economics / Re: Panic selling can contribute to bitcoin price going down? on: April 06, 2018, 11:53:33 AM
I need some opinion if panic selling can contribute of rapidly drop of the bitcoin price. If it is right how can we convince to the bitcoiners to not doing panic selling.
Yes obviously. When the market crash and bitcoin price fall, some people who are panic selling their bitcoins and it make worse because the price crashed more harder. You can't convince people to not sell their coins, it's all natural, people who easily panic will join the wave and sell their coins.
1348  Other / Archival / Re: [DISKUSI] Wallet Bitcoin on: April 06, 2018, 09:53:46 AM
Saya menggunakan electrum karena banyak rekomendasi dari para suhu, setelah dicoba ternyata simple. Belum berani coba-coba kalau belom ada rekomendasi dari para mastah disini karena takut kena hack.
Banyak yang perlu diperhatikan untuk menjaga wallet kita terhindar dari hack, Hindari untuk mengklik "situs yang belom familiar bagi kita" ditakutkan situs tersebut "phising'' karena sekarang hacker sudah mulai pintar untuk menyebarluaskan virus mereka.

Electrum emang enak kok gan tinggal pilih yang gak usah download semua blockchainnya jadi yang tinggal langsung pakai, fee nya juga kita bisa atur dan juga enaknya electrum itu kita bisa mengganti fee yang udah ditransaksikan kalau transaksi tersebut nyangkut atau feenya terlalu kecil.
1349  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: why kyc? on: April 06, 2018, 06:34:10 AM
Well i agreed why the gambling sites ask US when we won big on their site but if we won small and withdrawal, they will not question it. Well maybe it's for their safety and at least you still can withdraw your money though. Stake and Primedice are trustable, so if i ever win big on that sites, i will do KYC if they need it.
1350  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure on: April 06, 2018, 02:57:39 AM
tapi setidaknya total stake yang diterima sudah beres semua gan.saya lihat di spreadsheet signaturenya masih belum update berapa total token yang diterima.cuma post count yang ditampilkan.
bener sekali tuh gan dengan menampilkan total stake dan juga jumlah token yang akan didapat saya rasa cukup menenangkan para peserta bounty nya deh, karena sampai sekarang masih belum ada kejelasan dan kelanjutan mengenai alokasi nya jadi membuat semua peserta resah.
Setau ane spreadsheet envion masih kayak begitu aja gan dari awal, belum ada update sama sekali sampai sekarang. Makanya banyak yang ngeluh dan komplain kenapa envion sampai sekarang belom ada update sama sekali. Jawaban admin di telegram sih karena belom lengkap yang KYC jadi belom tau total penjualan envion.
1351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: India Bans Cryptocurrencies with Immediate Effect on: April 05, 2018, 12:59:53 PM
Here we go, another bad news on cryptocurrency. I'm afraid the price will go down again, that's why i already sold out all my bitcoins and my altcoins. I'm also ready to buyback again though when the price start going up again. Many indian friends of mine also told me that bitcoin ban is real.
1352  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Are Bitcoin miners still good to go? on: April 05, 2018, 05:38:04 AM
Because it costs so much electricity, several countries have imposed restriction on mining activity?

It's one of the reason electricity but also it's become more harder nowdays to mining bitcoin and also the price of bitcoin that not big anymore. It seems bitcoin mining still profit but not that big again, only a little profit but i think you can still earn big profits by mining altcoins.
1353  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: April 05, 2018, 03:12:58 AM
That's the final result if Manchester City play at Anfield. 3-0 and it all happened in the first half, manchester city controlled the game but could not score a single goal, sometimes football is not fair. The second leg in Etihad, if liverpool can win big at home, Manchester City can also, Liverpool should not be proud of themselves.

iam not believe if livepool can win 3-0 from manchester city
and liverpool create 3 goal only 31 minute in early first half

I'm also surprised Liverpool can make 3 goals and clean sheet too. Even manchester city don't have shoot on goal on that match against liverpool. Klopp finally has a recipe how to beat manchester city right now, well done Klopp. Actually it's a bit frustating for man city though, Liverpool fans attacked man city bus before the match and i think it makes man city mental down.
1354  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: is this true that GOOGLE will ban the ICO and crypto related ads? on: April 04, 2018, 02:22:21 PM
I read an article about this please take a look

https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/exclusive-google-quietly-purging-cryptocurrency-ads-content/

I'm not sure if this is true
what are your idea about this?
It's only for paid ads content about crypto and you still can use google search engine for cryptocurrency. Well the result is quite big into crpyto world. The market crash because of it, not only google but big social media platform such facebook and twitter also ban paid ads abount crypto too.
1355  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] Hero Token ICO Telah Dimulai | Masa depan perbankan di Asia Tenggara on: April 04, 2018, 11:16:47 AM
semoga saja harganya balik ke awal seharga 5$ lagi , karena sekarang berada di kisaran 1.4$ kalo tidak salah , untuk bug report belum diupdate juga stakenya , hanya itu saja yang belum lengkap setelah itu tinggal tunggu pembagian  Cheesy
proyek ini sangat lama selesainya,dulu pernah ditunda juga,akirnya bisa sukses. kalau ratenya bisa sampai 5$ lagi hasilnya sangat menyenangkan,sesuai dengan kerja keras para peserta bountynya.  Cheesy

iya gan rata2 token ico gitu gan pas awalnya doang lama kelamaan langsung turun juga
jangan $5 gan $1 pun ane sukur dilihat kondisi market saat ini

halo agan semua. herotoken ini marketnya dimana ya? saya cek di CMC kok belum ada. kalau harganya bisa $5 per token bisa mengobati kekecewaan para peserta yang sudah mengikuti dari awal proyek ini gan. ya semoga saja itu beneran bisa tercapai harga $5.
marketnya sekarang baru di cryptos dan untuk harga baru 1.5$ untuk mencapai 5$ mungkin bisa tapi harus ngehold token ini dengan jangka waktu yang lama
memang butuh kesabaran kalau mau dapat rate yang mahal.saat ini susah  untuk bisa mencapai rate $5 lagi gan.tapi yang pasti kesabaran akan membuahkan hasil yang bagus.
Sangat susah gan untuk kembali ke harga $5 karena market sekarang sudah turun semua harga bitcoin, ethereum dan semua altcoin lainnya. Mau gak mau mesti hold sampai lama kalau mau ke harag 5 dollar lagi per token. Berdoa saja market kembali membaik di bulan ini dan kedepannya. Tahun ini emang berat banget buat cryptocurrency.
1356  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Semua Koin Cryptoncurrency tidak akan pernah bisa bersaing on: April 04, 2018, 07:26:20 AM
Mungkin saya salah berpendapat seperti ini, tapi memang ini yang saya rasakan, banyak penerbit koin yang selalu berupaya untuk menyaingi dan mengalahkan bitcoin, saya ambil contoh adalah Ethereum, tapi nyata nya setiap harga bitcoin turun pasti ethereum ikut turun, Bitcoin dan ethereum itu berada dalam satu habitat yaitu crytocurrency. Dan sekarang ini bayak perusahaan yang memblokir iklan cryto dan itu berlaku untuk semua koin crypto. Jadi intinya, apakah persaingan yang dimaksud? Apakah kalian melihat usaha persaingan yang ada disini?, Soalnya setiap harga bitcoin turun atau naik pasti koin-koin yang lain ikutan.
kemunculan koin-koin baru bukan untuk menyaingi bitcoin. Saat ini bukan bitcoin yang mengalami penurunan tapi cryptocurrency. Wajar jika semua harga turun, lagi pula bitcoin sebagai mata uang digital pertama tidak akan di kalahkan oleh koin apapun.
Munculnya koin koin baru yang berembel embel akan mengalahi/menyaingi bitcoin hanya ada pada projek yang berbasis blockchain baru seperti Ethereum, Credits, Universa dan lainnya. Tentu saja mereka mempunya impian untuk mengalahi bitcoin dan emang belom bisa dilihat sampai sekarang. Tapi bukan tidak mungkin itu tidak bisa terjadi, sapa tau aja 1-5 tahun kedepan kita baru bisa lihat hasilnya. Sementara projek2 seperti credits dan universa masih berumur biji jagung jadi masih awalan, seperti ethereum yang butuh waktu bertahun tahun untuk projeknya jalan sampai sukses sekarang ini.
1357  Economy / Speculation / Re: Falling is not a bad thing. on: April 04, 2018, 05:05:01 AM
A hard hit may not be a bad thing, stopping the irrational game in time to really save bitcoin. It would be a real disaster if bitcoin were allowed to become a highly speculative target.

I think the price reduction is a good thing. What do you think?
I think it's also good but the fall is a bit deep than before which is make people panic and spread FUD about bitcoin and crypto. Falling is not a bad thing you are right, let's see how long this fall will stay. I hope in the next month the price start recovery and going up again.
1358  Economy / Speculation / Re: What would be better on: April 04, 2018, 03:15:36 AM
Yeah now is when a lot of traders are probably selling after purchasing around 6k. this time buy more Btc or ETH ? Or Both ? To trade with of course... thanks a lot
I'm not sure right now, the market is on green page right now but i'm not sure it will stay like this. I think we will the market down again until the next month. In my opinion the market will recovery when we reach 2nd quarter in this year. So if you want to buy BTC or ETH right now, you can buy it but i prefer to play safe by watch the market first.
1359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are there still hope for the altcoins on: April 03, 2018, 01:43:07 PM
So are all altcoins are dying or there will be no hope for new projects..? the market is now so bad...
Lol, altcoins are not dying. It's only because the market is still fall but i'm really sure the market will recovery later, maybe in 1-2 months. Even a new projects that has tokens will fall too because of the market. It's not about altcoins dying, so you can only do for now is waiting until the price recovery.
1360  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambler's mindset! on: April 03, 2018, 10:16:52 AM
I have tried to think what goes through my mind when ever I am trying to place a bet. I think something strange do happen to me and that is I always have this thinking that what if I lose, how am I going to feel! I have never want to lose in my mind I want to win always but I think this is impossible. Gamblers here did you always want to win all your bet? If you win all how will the gambling company makes profits?
I know what you feel man, i also feel like that everytime i make a bet. I think almost all gamblers feels like that too, it's like what if i lose my money on this bet, what if this bet is lose and many things like this. That's why we need to stop gambling if you feels like that, it's better to stop and gamble on another day when you feel optimist on your bet.
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