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1041  Economy / Economics / Re: Friends reactions to crypto currencies? on: September 10, 2018, 08:05:54 AM
I was questioned on crypto currencies legalization. I explained the facts happening around. Few received it with convincing reactions and few just ignored it. I really felt bad for the guys who did not care about crypto currencies as I really know the fruitfulness? I happily taught few others about crypto currencies. What was your friends expression when you introduced bitcoin to them?
Most of them are don't care and only know that the bitcoin price is high and that's it. I think the popularity of cryptocurrency is not that big in my country here in Indonesia. I think it's because of the benefit of bitcoin or other cryptocurrency is still unknown, many people still don't know about bitcoin. Even when i tell them about bitcoin, they still don't care.
1042  Economy / Marketplace / Re: share your experience which markets you fell safe for trade on: September 10, 2018, 04:40:50 AM
I have tried Binance,tradeogre and EtherDelta mostly so far and haven't faced any problem in any of this 3 exchanges the only problem I had with etherdelta was its user interface it is a bit complex and else the interface issue no other issues so far.
Binance indeed is the most popular one and i think it's really safe to trading binance, they so big volume trade on binance, also everything is smooth based on my experience. Actually there are many good exchange too out there with many positive points, for example like hotbit, i like this exchange recently, because of everytime i make a withdrawal, it's always easy and instant. Once i click the withdrawal, poof, instant withdrawal.
1043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Paying Bounty With TOKEN or ETH which will be better? on: September 09, 2018, 01:07:31 PM
SOLUTION
My solution here might not be right but this is how I see it.
1. Pay Bounty/Airdrop hunters with ETH, BTC or any Popular Coin thats already trading in the market
2. Buy Back some initial dumpers, which will make almost everyone else not to dump any more

Anyone who knows a better way can tell us here!


I agree with these 2 points, i think pay bounty with ETH is a good solution but the problem is when a project/ICO failed or not reach softcap, how is the project will pay the bounty participants? I'm sure many bounty hunters will complaint and make a scam accusation thread about it. Also, the project owner using their token to pay bounty participants because of they don't want use their money to buy eth to pay the bounty hunters.
1044  Economy / Economics / Re: Investors continue to invest in crypto-currency on: September 08, 2018, 05:26:15 AM
The investor's they have strategy on when time to invest and not, they know the right time for crypto cause they know how it works in the market. They start to invest and when the value is dip and they start to hold and wait the perfect time to going up the value of crypto and start to sell it and the results is more profit.

investors has no time frame for an investment as long as they see the market is better for investing they are in hurry to put their capital in the market. Meaning investors still believe in the capability of cryptocurrency to be known again in the market.
Not only the market but the project too. If the investors see a good investment on a project and looks promising, they will invest their money into the project. I think investor will keep continue invest in cryptocurrency because they know invest in cryptocurrency is good and they can get a big profits from ICO.
1045  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Bagaimana mebedakan Token dan Altcoin berkwalitas dan abal abal? on: September 08, 2018, 03:53:27 AM
Untuk membedakannya tentu sulit untuk diprediksi gan, namun beberapa metode dari saya mungkin dapat diambil refernsi bagi para investor yang ingin berinvestasi ke altcoin yang masih baru2:
1. Liat jumlah pencapaian hard capnya, bisa token yang mencapai hard cap banyak yang mendukung coin tersebut
2. Bisa dilihat dari rating ICO, bila rating ICO tinggi pasti kepercayaan para investor semakin tinggi juga, sehingga token tersebut banyak peminat dan volume transaksinya juga semakin meningkat.
disini ane punya pertanyaan buat agan
1. bagaimana jika token tersebut tidak mencapai hardcap?
2. sekarang rating ico bisa di sapatkan dengan mudah alias bisa membayar dengan memanipulasi rating,banyak juga rating bagus tapi ico mereka gagal.. nah itu bagaimana ya gan? apakah kita harus tetap percaya dengan rating ico

jika project ICO tidak mencapai HardCup,maka dapat dipastikan ICO tersebut kalah saing dipemasaran dan gagal.

soal adanya manipulasi rating ICO,sepertinya sulit diprediksi, saya pribadi lebih melihat kepada flatform pengembangan ICO,mengetahui alokasi,supply dan dapat melakukan prediksi kebutuhannya di masa depan. kalau token/coin telah listing di exchange, itu dapat dilihat dari volume nilai transaksinya.
Hardcap gan bukan HardCup, project ICO yang tindak mencapai hardcap bukan berarti itu projek gagal atau kalah saing. Yang penting kan di ICO itu minimal softcap dan jika udah mencapai softcap ya projek bakal terus berjalan dengan dana segitu. Masalah berkualitas atau tidaknya sebuah token/altcoin itu bergantung kepada projeknya gan, untuk diawal mungkin harganya akan murah karena projek tersebut masih dalam tahap pengembangan dan ini saat yang bagus buat beli tokennya dan di hold sampai lama. Nah pas projek tersebut udah bagus biasanya makan waktu berbulan bulan bahkan tahunan, harga token akan naik.
1046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How do you research altcoins? on: September 07, 2018, 11:34:05 AM
How do you research altcoins to invest in? I'm talking about legit/long term investing in projects that have real potential to become something that creates value.

How do you find the coins you're looking for?

What are your go to tools?
By looking the project one by one and join the telegram group to check how serious they develop the project and also check how's the hype for the project. My tools is only joining a telegram group, also you need to join a group of investors gather. Sometimes they give a good informations about which altcoins is good to invest or which ICO is good to invest.
1047  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Trading, campaigns, gambling or mining? on: September 07, 2018, 09:53:14 AM
I prefer gambling and trading, because both are quick ways to make a profit, and I really like these easy-to-understand ways to make money!

Real talk !
I thought campaign would be the most easiest one? Gambling and trading has resemblance, they both posess high level of risks, depends on your capital. Both could give you good returns if your lucky, yet both could lose all your invested capital in a day as well. Whereas, campaigns dont need any funds to invest, yet can make you good money. The only risk involve is not getting paid by the greedy manager.

Well, in campaign you only need to online and do your task to get the payment in token or even in bitcoin. It's not that easy, because you also need to spend your time to do the task but the plus point is you don't need to spend your own money to join a campaign. On the other hand, gambling and trading are needs money to do that both.
1048  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why government announce bitcoin is illegal? on: September 07, 2018, 04:08:22 AM
We know Bitcoin is one of the powerful and top coin in marketplace.
But world wide all county are announced its illegal.
I personally think that bitcoin is very help us for paying any payment.
Its has many facility.
But our government are announced its illegal
I think it's because of the government can't control the bitcoin and that's why the government want to banned bitcoin and make bitcoin illegal. Thank god my country here is not announce bitcoin is illegal and not banned bitcoin. I can still use bitcoin here without problem. I think why government announce to banned bitcoin is reasonable though. Maybe we need more years to courage our government to accept bitcoin.
1049  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BCD tak terbendung on: September 05, 2018, 01:50:55 PM
bcd tidak terbendung lagi hari ini setelah binance mengumumkan open deposit dan wd pada jam 10 UTC tadi semua market yang ada BCD nya mengalami pump besar-besaran karena harga dibinance jauh lebih mahal dari market yang ada jika dirupiahkan tadi paling ditinggi di binance sempat 200rebu lebih dan di indodax 70rebu an lumayan pump 250% an dari harga 20rebuan ke 70rebu an
Paling tinggi di indodax hampir mencapai 70k per BCD gan tapi sekarang udah surut lagi tuh, yang pengang BCD pasti dapet profit banyak tuh kalau manfaatin momen tadi. Untuk sekarang harga BCD di 45k per BCD dan volume transaksi di indodax paling pertama tuh, emang lagi hypenya BCD hari ini gara-gara naik tinggi tadi pagi-siang.
1050  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: sebagai mata uang atau sebagai sarana investasi? on: September 05, 2018, 12:18:08 PM
walaupun crypto adalah mata uang digital tapi yang saya ingin tanyakan disini adalah apakah crypto benar-benar akan menjadi mata uang yang digunakan sebagai alat pembayaran seperti halnya rupiah dan dollar atau akan tetap seperti sekarang yang notabenenya "lebih digunakan sebagai sarana investasi"?


Untuk menjadi seperti rupiah ataupun dollar atau mata uang yang di pakai di berbagai negara itu susah gan dan gak mudah. Pertama menurut ane bitcoin ini perlu mengeluarkan bentuk fisiknya gan mungkin seperti uang kertas maupun koin agar bisa dipergunakan di real life. Menurut ane bisa aja sih bitcoin sebagai mata uang tapi mungkin butuh waktu yang lama gan, mungkin 5-10 tahun kedepan kita baru bisa ngeliatnya.
1051  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apa Altcoin Favoritmu di Exchanger Saat ini on: September 05, 2018, 06:53:10 AM
 Mari para trader berbagi informasi tentang altcoin yang anda favoritkan.
  Berikan alasan anda, kenapa koin tersebut menjadi koin favorit anda!
Untuk sekarang ini ane ada 2 yaitu Localcoinswap (LCS) dan Universa (UTNP/UTN) karena ane sedang lagi hold ini 2 altcoins dan rencananya ane mau hold sampai harga kedua token ini naik tinggi harganya. Mungkin sampai tahun depan baru bakalan ane jual. Alasan lainnya karena ini 2 projek hypenya cukup tinggi dan ane lihat kedua projek ini sangat serius dikerjakan dan selalu ada update di setiap minggu dan bulannya.
1052  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin continue to fall this year? on: September 05, 2018, 03:45:44 AM
Looking how bitcoin has fallen about more than 80% of its  market value since last year, it is possible too that it will continue to fall until the end of this year but i am not still losing hope that bitcoin will go the other way and use the remaining months to push its market price and cap to 50% of its value last year.
Well i hope that will never happen. I mean, we already had a really bad year so far in this year, the price of bitcoin and other altcoins price crashed hard since january until August. I hope with the last 4 months in this year, the bitcoin price, altcoin price and crypto market can start recovery and go up again until the end of the year.
1053  Economy / Speculation / Re: Could we expect more years like "2017"? on: September 04, 2018, 12:18:44 PM
We all know that this year we experienced bitcoin surging up so high from $1k in January then on this month of December it almost touch up to $20k. So, do we have to expect more on Bitcoin just like this in the coming years that will go through?

For me I think I will be positive as this years has and hold the Bitcoin that I have right now.

Of course we can expect a better year next year. Anything can really happen but still i believe it would be a good year next year and i am still holding all i have.
I'm sure many people also expect a better year for next year 2019 the bitcoin price and cryptocurrency market go up. This year 2018 is the worst year if you compare it with 2017. To be honest, it's hard get the same years like 2017 especially with the current condition on crypto market right now but i hope it will recovery until the end of the year.
1054  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA [ICO] | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: September 04, 2018, 03:43:36 AM
Kalau ane pribadi tetap percaya sama UTN gan, yakin banget ane harga UTN kedepan akan semakin bagus,
bahkan ada yang mengatakan Universa ini bakal lebih baik ketimbang Ethereum kedepannya.
masih sangat jauh gan, ditnggu saja perkembangannya. karena kita tahu platform ethereum sendiri sudah berkemabng psat dan digunakan banyak orang sekarang. kalau mau menyaingi ethereum saya kira juga butuh waktu dan banyak pengembangan.
untuk menyaingi harga Ethereum memang sulit, tapi soal kecepatan transaksi, UTN ini sudah lebih cepat dari Ethereum. sebagaimana Ethereum yang mengalahkan kecepatan transaksi Bitcoin tapi tidak bisa mengalahkan harga Bitcoin, mungkin demikian juga Universa. tapi saya Pikir Universa ini memang memiliki masa depan yang bagus, mengingat tim nya sangat serius mengembangkan proyek ini, dan memberikan banyak edukasi tentang Blockchain ke berbagai negara dan para pelaku usaha agar mereka lebih mengenal teknologi blockchain dan mengerti keuntungan menggunakan blockchain sehingga mereka menggunakan Blockchain Universa. dan seiring berjalannya waktu maka Universapun akan populer sebagaimana ETH, stellar, NEO, dll

Untuk menyaingi Ethereum emang gak mudah dan instan, kita lihat aja seperti Ethereum dulunya juga gak instan untuk menjadi seterkenal ini, kalau gak salah butuh 1-2 tahun buat Ethereum menjadi terkenal. Untuk Universa sendiri ane lihat projeknya bener2 bagus dan Alexander Borodich selaku CEO dari Universa juga udah rajin banget keliling dunia untuk memperkenalkan Universa. Dari info2 sebelumnya sih Universa udah menjalin kerjasama dengan beberapa perusahaan real. Tapi emang butuh waktu buat universa, semoga aja tahun depan universa mulai keliatan suksesnya.
1055  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: September 03, 2018, 12:54:31 PM
Spurs made all their subs in the last 3 minutes and brought on Llorente, Winks and Rose. They had no attacking players to bring on because Son was away and they didn't sign anyone during the break. They are really going to struggle this season I think. An injury in Kane or even Lucas and they could totally fall apart.

The Rashford red was somewhat unfair. I mean, yes, it was a clear red, but Bardsley kicked out at Rashford after the ball was out of play. They should both have been sent off. VAR is needed.
Nah all Premier League clubs REJECT introduction of VAR though, but i agreed it's because of Bardsley first that make Rashford did that. About Spurs, Son will be back soon because South Korea u23 just won the Asian games and he can avoids military service and join Tottenham like usual now.
1056  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Dogecoin naik tinggi di indodax on: September 03, 2018, 04:53:17 AM
Dogecoin naik drastis di indodax dari 34 menjadi 80an, apa yang terjadi ada yang bisa menjelaskan apa aktifitas yang dilakukan dogecoin, atau hanya ulah yang punya modal besar  untuk pump and dump lagi?
Bukan hanya di indodax gan tapi di semua exchange juga naik harga dogecoin, ane sendiri belom tau kenapa harga token dogecoin bisa naik tinggi kemarin, tapi sekarang udah mulai turun lagi perlahan tuh gan. Kayaknya sih ada permainan oleh si Whale gan alias pemain besar, yang ngejual token dogecoin kemarin pasti untung tuh.
1057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are ICOs gonna end someday ? on: September 03, 2018, 03:09:20 AM
I have one question that really bug me sometimes, Are ICOs going to end or new ideas and projects will emerge along with ICOs. Many of us actually rely on bounty to earn other than investing. As long as there is ICO I believe there will be bounty. It will be a sad day for us if ICOs are declared officially dead.
ICOs is not always have a bounty, a good and legit project sometimes don't need bounty, they even can sold out their token sale only from private sale or presale and they don't need bounty to promote their ICO. About ICO, i think it's possible though ICO gonna end someday but if ICO still makes profit to investor, ICO will not gonna end soon.
1058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How to trade..?? on: September 02, 2018, 08:53:35 AM
Hi .. I'm still a newbie who just knew Bitcoin and also other Altcoin but I do not know how to play tranding.

How do you do tranding .. ??

What kind of system do you use to make a profit ... ??

Before that I thank you for your participation.
I would suggest watch a lot of videos in Youtube on how to trade in crypto market then read a lot of topics about crypto and also go here babypips.com where you can a learn a lot especially the basics of trading. Goodluck.
That is a good one, watch youtube, i think it's the easiest one to learn how to trade. For me, to learn trade fast is just go visit the exchange site first and after that you can check it 1-1 and step by step how to trade there. Actually i learn about trading is by myself, i learn directly at the trading site and deposit my coins and just buy-sell directly.
1059  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Menjual token di myetherwalet on: September 02, 2018, 05:31:13 AM
Saya masih pemula gan.mau tanya tenttang myetherwalet.
Untuk cara jual tokenya.ane g paham gan.
Agan cek dolo di coinmarket, tokennya ada gak disitu kalau ada berarti udah di listing di exchange. Pas agan udah ketemu tokennya di coinmarketcap, klik, terus pilih Markets, entar disitu keluar exchange mana aja yang ada. Terus agan tinggal bikin akun di exchange tersebut dan langsung jual tokennya. Kalau emang gak ketemu di coinmarketcap, cek di exchange desentralisasi gan seperti idex, forkdelta dan etherdelta. Biasanya udah ada.
1060  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who controls the crypto market? on: September 02, 2018, 04:14:48 AM
I have been following the crypto scene for the past year and sometimes even though some companies do well their token price drastically goes down and this is the same with btc too. People like john mcafee and roger ver are always talking about how we should get ready for the bullish market but yet the price keeps on decreasing and so i'm asking how and who controls the price. If there is anyone who might be running it?
I don't think a person can controls the crypto market but let's imagine if 1 person or a group of "Whale" that have so many coins on their wallet, IF they dump or pump all the token, the price can easily changed in a second. I don't know is it real or not but it's seems possible to happen, a group of rich people control a token market or whole crypto market.
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