itu adalah salah satu keunggulan bitcoin yang mana bitcoin bekerja secara desentralisasi dan kita bisa menyimpan uang segitu banyak tanpa kuatir kena pajak penghasilan. tidak seperti menyimpan uang di bank konvensional yang mana punya uang gede (>200 jt) dipantau sama petugas pajak  dan bisa kita ga bisa kendali penuh atas uang kita jika dibandingkan dengan bitcoin. ditambah bitcoin itu kan anonym ya jd udah lengkap emang. bisnis fiat dari hulu ke hilir selalu menuju bank dan bitcoin mau bisnis apapun larinya pasti ke wallet dulu, jadi saat mereka kepo kita bisa hold dulu. Saat mereda baru ditransfer secara bertahap kecil. Saya memang mendukung BI harus bisa jadi pemantau, karena jika tidak maka negara ini tidak akan mempunyai fungsi ekonomi. Yang paling penting bitcoin bukan kejahatan dan bukan bisnis ilegal  |
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diomelin ? orang tua saya 100% malah mendukung gan, memang setengah tahun kebelakang mereka juga khawatir karena belum terlihat penghasilannya, tapi setelah itu mereka malah tersenyum dan mendoakan yang terbaik. jika niatan kita kuat dan tidak malas maka jangan pernah berhenti gan, momentumnya harus dijaga dan bergaullah dengan komunitas bitcoin saling support
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wahh ini project shopeo di pegang sama bang jamal juga ya bounty nya? musti hati2 nih buat post nya jangan sembarangan karena memang di cek beneran tuh kayak di project DENT.. kmaren aja total post ane 75 post dan semuanya lebih dari 75 karakter tapi yang kehitung cuma 55, mungkin karena jarak waktu antar post nya terlalu minim
9 hari lagi 50 post bisa lah gan dibuat lima-lima-enam dst. ya jangan berdekatan dan oneliner saja sudah masuk tahap aman, shopeo terlalu berani dalam waktu yang singkat dan saya lihat mereka memang serius, walaupun banyak investor ico yang mulai lesu di projek lain, namun jika shopeo sukses, bisa jadi tolak ukur kampanye yang pake jeda singkat. |
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Ini dari signature campaign atau social media campaign gan? dan sudah bisa di withdrawal dari website footballcoin.io?
Sangat di sayangkan kalau cuma masuk di exchange seperti cryptodao, masih mending liqui atau c-cex, semoga bisa ke bittrex.
yah emang agak menegcewakan sih, tapi untuk sekarang mungkin masih lebih bagus kalo dah masuk exchanger. kasihan yang dah ikut signature ini sih, dah lama skali tunggu exchanger kluar aset xfc di cryptodao jauh sebelum kasus hacking PPT, jadi memang sangat mungkin untuk pindah market dan xfc belum ditradingkan sampai saat ini. sabar ya gan, projek tetap berjalan. |
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sebesar apapun nilai mata uang dunia, tetap orang tidak mau merusak rate dollar dan pundsterling, begitu juga dengan bitcoin, banyak altcoin yang mungkin nantinya rate lebih tinggi, pada akhirnya orang pilih kembali ke koin basic. Saya memang lihat ethereum terus berupaya keras, tapinya nyatanya mereka belum berhasil. Saya dah pasti setia sama bitcoin karena jumlahnya makin terbatas.
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walaupun ribet tapi harga coinnya bagus mau gi mana lgi gan soalnya rata2 coin yg pakek berbasis ETH harganya bagus2
jdi buat fee harus beli ETH ya minimal 0.01 eth jga sudh cukup
Ribet darimana gan? tampilannya gabikin mata sakit, sistemnya juga ga sepenuhnya otomatis kaya bitrex tetapi ga sepenuhnya manual juga. 0.02 Eth kali gan kemarin saya coba 0.01 gabisa sell order. aslinya sih nggak ribet kok gan di etherdelta tampilannya sederhana mudah digunakan juga, tetapi kalau mau nyari exchanger yang otomatis ya di bittrex atau yang lain lebih gampang lah , kemaren juga saya sempet trading disana juga lancar jaya Ada sedikit koin neh saya juga yang harus di jual di etherdelta tapi belum berani aja mau masuk etherdelta deposit eth di etherdelta minimal berapa yah, apa emang 0.01 eth dah mencukupi mau bikin akun juga soalnya kalau emang bagus dan gak ada kendala mau coba trade di etherdelta ini saya masuk saja gan, 0.001 cuma buat patokan minimal biar ga bolak balik transfer, aslinya gas lebih rendah dari itu tergantung nominal order kita. setelah itu eth/gas bisa langsung didapat karena etherdelta memang market berbasis eth. yang saya senang zack_etherdelta selalu meluangkan waktu di trollbox jawab pertanyaan, chat juga ga pernah libur, on terus. (log in via twitter/github), sementara king coin disana masih ppt, plu, plbt dan veri, tapi jangan salah koin2 rate kecil seperti pillar volume hariannya lebih tinggi. |
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Paling galak : Lauda
Sebenarnya bukan paling galak kalau menurut ane, melainkan paling tegas diantara semua manager. Sebagai catatan saja lauda sangat tegas kalau di campaign yang bayaran BTC, kalau yang bayarannya altcoin dia hampir sama seperti yahoo62278. Agan pernah lihat SFR10 saat masih aktif jadi manager? Kalau dia masih aktif sampai sekarang, dia lah yang cocok sebagai manager yang paling tegas. setuju gan, kalau altcoin lauda sama yahoo agak lunak, tapi kalo urusan btc tu 2 galak. SFR sudah gak main, lauda setelah bitmixer juga pasti galau karena dia terapkan aturan grammar harus sesuai dengan bayaran yang tinggi, campaign bayaran mid-low aturan selangit siapa yang mau, dia juga gagal di campaign altcoin, alih profesi jadi escrow. yang lagi naik daun colorless & sylon. kalau Jamal, irfan, dan yahoo memang sudah kategori terpercaya. pola manajer sekarang sudah berubah, banyak akun hero & legend baru sudah mainkan perannya sendiri sebagai pengurus ann dan bounty. manajer yang bagus memang ga terlalu strick tapi tegas dibelakang, lauda tukang main argumen dan harus dia yang menang, makanya failed. |
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btw manager campaign shopeo siapa gan?? ane daftar tapi kelupaan jadinya Refused  apa harus pm OPx di thread ANNx ? klo misalx status Refused nya nggak berubah sampai sore ini berarti harus move on ke yang lain  semoga saja approv  Kalau tidak salah ini gan Erkallys coba di personal messages saja atau balas di thread bountynya biasanya dia cepat respon. coba pm saja, manajer campaign biasanya lunak, btw shopeo lumayan greget, iconya sampai 17 agustus 1945 saya senang yang jeda campaignnya pendek bisa langsung pindah, problem campaign cepat dapatnya sedikit terhitung relatif karena yang paling menentukan adalah penjualan ICO. Namun sepertinya shopeo tidak terikat dengan amazon, mereka hanya menyontoh openbazaar. |
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mungkin agan ada saran agar gak di apus atau di report sama moderatornya ?
keep posting, jika kita tidak merasa salah dan tetap dihapus karena alasan off topik, jadikan pemikiran untuk next post lebih baik lagi. lebih baik lanjut post daripada komplain 1 post yang dihapus. Adakah peraturan yang membolehkan username dengan kata-kata tidak pantas di Bitcointalk? Rasanya terlalu menjijikan melihat username dengan kata2 jorok berkeliaran di Bitcointalk.
belum ada aturan yang melarang jadi sesuai nurani saja, saya juga ada baca username indo yang absurd tapi semua postnya hanya khusus english. |
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ini konsepnya kita main game nya terus ngumpulin koinnya kah? soalnya ini hal baru bagi ane, dan ane pun jarang main game.
lebih mudah gan kita cuma jadi manajer pasang2 pemain trus tinggal lihat hasil pertandingan asli : - misal real madrid vs barcelona = kita bukan cari siapa yang menang tapi skor dari pemain yang kita pasang acak dari 2 klub tersebut. moment cetak gol, passing, assist, dan semua dari 40 data diakumulasi dan ditotal. - misal kita create contest/join contest ada 5 pertandingan/10 tim = kita bebas pilih pemain dari 10 klub tersebut, jadi tidak harus pantau skor dan siapa yang menang, based on skill player. kalo memang sudah ada di bittrex berarti sesuai dengan permintaan banyak orang karena dengan suksesnya ICO mereka banyak mengatakan bahwa xfc harus masuk exchanger besar dan memang terakhir kali saya lihat di cryptodao tetapi tidak ada volume dan kalo di bittrex mempunyai peluang bagus karena kemungkinan orang yang suka bermain football manager akan menyukai konsep dari xfc karena ini long term, xfc memfokuskan in-game market dulu/jual beli kartu dan taruhan di dalam game. soal exchanger luar tunggu kabar selanjutnya, surprise. xcp tidak diberlakukan lagi dan akan dipermudah, untuk asset di cryptodao masih sebatas iou. jika new season sudah berlangsung dan pasar in-game ramai, otomatis trading market juga berkesinambungan, jika dilepas sekarang malah bisa anjlok karena betting utama belum mulai saat ini kontes liga rusia dan prancis sudah ada, silahkan yang mau trial & error sekalian ngumpulkan koin, biar ga kaget kalo 3 season (italia, spain, epl) mulai, bakal bersaing lagi sama senior betting hanya di footballcoin.io |
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When has achieved profit of about 10%, then i immediately get out of casino. Because i realize, if i keep playing can be sure i will lose.
This is good, and we can make one target once we reach that amount we must stop our game. Then only we will see profit in gambling. Otherwise gambling always give us only loss we will never make a profit. I will not make any target, but if I feel that I am losing more games, i will stop my play. And suppose if we win multiple games that day I will not play more games. I will stop my play and withdraw my winning amount. 10% is a good threshold, to earn a monthly profit we have to apply a small percentage every day and not be tempted by massive instant income. In this case, I left the game freely and used to switch directly to another business model so I was not fixated on the percentage in a gambling business. |
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I think the experience is not necessarily,only if you have luck you can win the prize.The gambling begin to make demos happy,and some people don't understand that,they lose money to try be a rich.
Experience does not matter in computer slots, roulette etc. But when you play card game like black jack etc its experience that matters. Newbie will not be able to survive in such games because tactics is what makes them earn money. You can use your experience in any kind games. But remember it won't have a significant changes such as make you frequently to win. People too greedy to blame something as the real factor to win in gambling , experience did not make a big difference actually. Experience factor is very important to manage our profit in gambling, without this understanding we will continue to be trapped in the defeat and will only make misfortune. Experience in dice or roulette is limited to timings. But card games and sports betting have higher levels of analysis than just luck. So actually I do not agree if there is an opinion about gambling that says about just needing full of luck. |
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how to participate in the ICO, since this ico has different model its not like other ico. Which we just send the ethereum to the crowdsale address and then we will received it
You just have to buy it because the project already has a game in it, ICO for project that already has a game platform is very different from the platform that is still limited to the concept. I bought some NEVERDIE! Has the minimum goal been achieved? Currently 785 NEVERDIE = 1 ETH? This project is good, but maybe the spread was not the best! Some exchange is ready to add NEVERDIE, right? For being token ERC-20!
There is no minimum cap so I assume it has reached the minimum target, we only need to pursue the max cap to improve the success of this project. For the exchange I think neverdie will have their own platform and not close the possibility to get involved with other exchanges. |
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TV depending on government regulations, it is illegal if they broadcast bitcoin that focus on investment. Better to broadcast bitcoin through digital media like youtube because today many people do not like tv because it is considered as a tool of certain party propaganda. By the way, what kind of tv adverts are expected?
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My friend told me about it and told me to buy it in 2013. Instead of buying, I just joined the forum and gained more knowledge about it. Knew about the potential but I wasnt stable financially back then so never got a chance to but BTC that would make a difference to me financially.
I also have experience like you, the difference is I still do not trust bitcoin at that time, but actually I am very interested and collect some bitcoin that finally lost because my computer hard drive is completely broken without back up. I know bitcoin from my online friends and he is very enthusiastic to teach me so many things up till now. |
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Have a mixed opinion about this but it's sometimes true and sometimes isn't. There are people woth huge funds used for trading like 1 bitcoin or 10 bitcoin for them spending too much time on trading is fine as you have to make sure not to get too much loss and there are traders with 0.001 and trying to earn 1 bitcoin in few days and they spend endless time but don't have funds to actually make spending that crucial time worth
Long dependency will make our emotions negative, and also with trade, we should not be involved too long and use only a few hours a day continuously. It also depends on the type of trader itself, many of which focus throughout the day as this is a daily habit. |
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ICO = Initial Coin Offering is the best way to earn a lot. Because in ICO times the price of Token has so low. If you buy some token on ICO times. So easily you can make a good profit on it. But, some of the ICO is a scam. So you have to find out good ICO and then you can invest on it. Otherwise, you will make a huge loss. So, ICO has advantages and disadvantage too.
Since you said that during initial coin offer the price of token is very low,that wont be the case with all the projects,i have seen many projects in the past well going past their ICO price and tanking at the bottom,so what you have to understand is that only the best projects will have those luxuries ,take for example the recently concluded SONM. Depending on whether the business offered from ICO has long-term prospects or not, if the ICO we choose already exists that are similar in the market or only visible for short-term interests then we will get bad luck. Presale bonus offerings make us a shareholder in the market, very profitable because with the initial offerings then our profits will double. |
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Ethereum has a great potential of growing and we can also see that a lot of new projects are being traded in pair only with ETH and not with btc. But bitcoin, don`t stay on one place and they are also improving themselves. We can not tell exactly how things are going to be, but it hink in future both of this currency have the potential of growing.
Of course ETH have the potential of growing and blablabla but, bitcoin is the king of every other virtual currency. BECAUSE WAS THE FIRST CRYPTOCURRENCY IN THE PLANET! Now is 'obsolete', but was and is the first, Now many user prefer eth... BUT NO 1 CANT PUSH MORE THEN BTC! HARD FORK OR NOT. Bitcoin is still in the problem of hadrfork/chainsplit, while ethereum has passed through this stage, ethereum is not proportional to bitcoin but by looking at the potential current usage in various businesses, eth is predicted to skyrocket in the future, nothing is impossible. |
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Depending on how big the hype is in bitcoincash on trading market, we still do not know which coin will be useful for what and how it continues, most of the coin's opinion will end like ETC but we must first refer to its usefulness.
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Yeah defenitely its a roller coaster ride in terms of price speculations due to high percentage of price volatitility in each market bitcoins is in,it makes a sudden drop or sudden pump in price anytime
I completely agree with you on this issue, Bitcoin is like a roller coaster in terms of raising value or price. It is similar to the roller coaster Because Bitcoin is experiencing value in a uncertain way, in recent days, Bitcoin has gained huge value, which profit curve is raising in the up ward looks like roller coaster 😀 This comes with the price instability of Bitcoin. Checking out the price chart of Bitcoin over the years really replicates a roller coaster. What's good though is that despite the frequent fluctuations, it can be seen that price is rising over the years. The price has been going up and down more just recently as August 1 is fast approaching. Crypto users and traders should use this as an advantage, and just look forward to its continuous price increase. I think back bitcoin should have fluctuations like this so as not to instant skyrocket, spreading bitcoin evenly should be done gradually and I think what is a bitcoin roller coaster can still be accepted by the market. If prices continue to skyrocket this coin will be quickly destroyed because no one can afford it, it will undermine the nature of decentralization, the law of the state will also act in accordance with what we do not want. |
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