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1  Other / Meta / Re: Gambling is okay,but selling(or buying) followers is not(neg trust worthy)? on: September 20, 2018, 10:24:50 AM
Since not even the admins here have the courtesy to reply to my question on why they are deleting my answers when I'm telling the truth.

I've proven that Lauda is a self-righteous bitch, choosing carefully who she negs, even tho I provided evidence Hero and Legendary members were doing the same thing I have received a neg for. marlboroza is a petty penny hoarder, someone who puts his affiliate link and advertises gambling websites for a few bucks of the profit is not worth my time. Last, we have yogg - who attacked me and called me a crook even tho he was an account seller back in the day. So all in all, a great little circle jerk gang which can't see farther than their noses.

This will be my last post regarding this subject, I'm disappointed in the forum and the admins who actively were involved in censorship. This forum is going downhill, now you know why. Your power hungry, frustrated DT members are killing the community, I hope you're happy when you're left only with the circle jerk gang.
2  Economy / Reputation / Re: Spam service? on: September 19, 2018, 11:06:34 PM

Yeah, super legit to sell likes and spam. Roll Eyes and you did it like, now ? This wasn't 3 years ago.. and yes, account sales gradually became controversial, sorry to teach you that fact, kiddo.
Since you are so passionate about watching users, so you can talk about them, what about you ?
What else do you do, except from pumping scams on a massive scale considering the amount of different threads you made, and social media you deal with ?
If I'm full of shit, I wonder what that makes you full of, "mate" ?
This is an open forum. I am free to post whatever opinion I have, it hurts me to know it isn't "valuable" to your eyes.

I'm not sure. Given you know all that stuff, whose alt are you ? Hmm geez I wonder ...

You cannot compare what cannot be compared.

Account sales gradually became controversial? So you only oppose something if the circle jerk gang is against it? You don't have an opinion or moral compass of your own? Also, if you're trying to make a point using the word "kiddo", I don't get it.

Pumping scams on a massive scale? That's a bold statement and I don't see any proof to your claims.

Yes, you are free to post an opinion. But let me remind you:

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Stop seeing the mote in other's eyes and look at the beam in your own.

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you culprit.

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Will be my only reply here.

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and you did it like, now ? This wasn't 3 years ago..

Your 3 years ago might be mine now, but guess I don't deserve that chace, huh? Better call me a culprit, scam supporter and spammer now. You truly have grown over the years  Wink




3  Economy / Reputation / Re: Spam service? on: September 19, 2018, 10:05:47 PM
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So now you're all better and ready to accuse other members who make the same mistake? You auctioned it off, you didn't care who you sold it to and that user got negged to the ground later, while you remain clean. Yeah, there were no scams back in the day, everyone was legit lol. You're full of shit mate and I just proved it. You just wait and wait, ready to jump at any new thread about someone, ready to give your "valuable" opinion. At least I never auctioned off a forum acc to the highest bidder.

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This is what crooks do, really. Deceive people.

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Stop seeing the mote in other's eyes and look at the beam in your own.

Kind of got you there buddy.

4  Economy / Reputation / Re: Spam service? on: September 19, 2018, 08:15:05 PM

Nice work on avoiding the point that's painful to you, you culprit.
Keep up the work. You're gonna go far, kid.

Whatever makes you sleep better, buddy. Culprit? Kid?

You're a joke, the same is this forum. You attack me, but I just posted a thread where Legendary and Hero members do the same. Cowards and keyboard warriors, that's what the bunch of you are. Stroke your e-penis somewhere else loser.

EDIT: Hey yogg, so you were an account seller back in the day huh?  Roll Eyes Very nice!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1428184.msg14465685#msg14465685

I am selling a Full Member account created back in March 2014.
Proof of ownership is available for this account. I got this account as collateral from a defaulted loan.

For more details about the account, please check :
http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=3en1426v

Posts: 140+
Activity: 140+ (Full Member)
Potential Activity: 240+ (Potential Sr. Member)
Post Quality: Very Poor
Trust: Neutral
Estimated Price: 0.057

The bidding starts at 0.01 BTC
Bid increments : 0.01 BTC

The auction lasts 48 hours from the moment this thread was posted on the forum.
Escrow is welcome if buyer finds someone trusted to do that. Buyer pays escrow fees.

PS : I know I didn't follow up on a previous auction I started.
This was due to unforeseen personal events and is not likely to happen again.
5  Other / Meta / Re: Gambling is okay,but selling(or buying) followers is not(neg trust worthy)? on: September 19, 2018, 02:18:48 PM
I already stated my opinion on social media manipulation as a service. Just because I didn't comment on it, doesn't mean I condone it.

Okay, now that you are the only one that commented on this, do you believe those members should be negged just like me? To paraphrase, does it deserve a neg at all(since if yes, then they must be negged and I will be waiting for the members to neg them)?
6  Other / Meta / Re: but selling(or buying) followers is not(neg trust worthy)? on: September 19, 2018, 02:01:32 PM
Most people can gamble or drink or have sex or eat chocolate or take painkillers without it becoming a problem.

Wrong.

Is gambling okay? That's your question? I doubt anyone that has seen what gambling does to people can say it's "okay". I agree responsibility plays a role, but some people are born with a character flaw that gambling magnifies. Would society be better off without gambling? Yes, it would.

You can stand by your opinion, but you're the one that claims mine is childish and wrong.

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How about you practice what you preach and stop being a huge hypocrite? Some people believe in the choice of freedom so stop trying to push your own opinions and beliefs down the throat of others.

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I'll leave you with the answer to your question:

[is] Gambling is okay?

Yes. Yes it is. Get over it.

Who's pushing opinions down someone's throat here?

7  Other / Meta / Re: Gambling is okay,but selling(or buying) followers is not(neg trust worthy)? on: September 19, 2018, 01:28:24 PM
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So my morals are flawed because you say so when I say the same I'm childish? I doubt you've ever seen the consequences of gambling buddy, you can ask any psych in the world what his stance on gambling is. You can read up on it, but stop writing your own opinion and acting like it's the law, because mine is actually backed up by facts.

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In the past, the psychiatric community generally regarded pathological gambling as more of a compulsion than an addiction—a behavior primarily motivated by the need to relieve anxiety rather than a craving for intense pleasure.

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Even more compelling, neuroscientists have learned that drugs and gambling alter many of the same brain circuits in similar ways.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-the-brain-gets-addicted-to-gambling/


This one's just by googling, find academic papers and read them and you'll see the truth, stop spreading false information, read a book or something more meaningful than a forum post, maybe then your opinion will be valuable.

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Twitter followers make people lose money the same way blindly investing does. Companies can buy followers so they can get coverage and spread the word to more people(because the way social media algorithms work, engagement + following = more impressions). It's on the investors to check the real project and what's behind it. Just because you have followers doesn't mean you are reputable.

I notice neither of you have anything to say about the thread where Legendary and Hero members buy fake services. Double standards?  Roll Eyes
8  Other / Meta / Re: Gambling is okay,but selling(or buying) followers is not(neg trust worthy)? on: September 19, 2018, 12:55:07 PM
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Lol, I doubt people are losing money because of fake Twitter followers.
But if you want to talk about
Here's a thread where a few Hero and Legendary members buy or ask about SMM services: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1937884.0


Feel free to tag them then or are there minimum rank requirements to buying fake followers?  Roll Eyes
9  Other / Meta / Re: Gambling is okay,but selling(or buying) followers is not(neg trust worthy)? on: September 19, 2018, 12:43:14 PM
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Again a load of garbage. Gambling is a fcking addiction and can lead to large losses and a disaster. I already apologized for the e-mails and closed the thread a few days ago. Stop acting so high and mighty, I'm being negged for fraudulent marketing which is absurd. Lol, so fake followers are a fraud but advertising god knows whos casino is totally legit.

You think I'm a child because I'm an opposer of gambling? That fact alone shows how much you know about the consequences, "casual gamblers" are just addicts waiting to be born. Suit yourself. Obviously, this is no place for me, as it's totally unimportant what I or any other lower ranking member has to say. The only things that matter here are senior members and their flawed morals, you're untrusted if you don't oblige to their "judgment" lol.

Here's a fun thread where a bunch of Hero Members buy SMM services: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1937884.0

What do you think?  Roll Eyes
10  Other / Meta / Re: Gambling is okay,but selling(or buying) followers is not(neg trust worthy)? on: September 19, 2018, 11:55:01 AM
I'm not a good person to be involved in this discussion. I don't think accounts should be bought and sold, and I've just read your sig.



Well, thanks for taking the time to engage in the discussion anyway.
11  Other / Meta / Re: Gambling is okay,but selling(or buying) followers is not(neg trust worthy)? on: September 19, 2018, 11:43:51 AM
I think we are getting away from the main point in this thread. That relates to the sale or purchase of rank, favour or reputation. I haven't looked at your specific case, but as a general principle, I support Lauda in his belief that such traders are destructive for this forum. I started to post on Steemit, but I backed away a bit when I realised that one had to purchase the promotion of one's content, and that quality was of secondary importance.

Destructive to this forum? What does this forum have to do with my services? I never sold accounts of Bitcointalk, nor Merit, nor anything. The point of this thread is why my services are so "frowned upon" by higher-ranking members, while they earn their money from gambling websites. You'll soon be left with only Hero and Legendary members since everyone else is bullied into leaving the forum. Seriously, trust has become a total joke, I hope you realize this before it's too late. Lauda first wasn't sure whether I should receive a neg, then marlboroza pointed out they tagged someone for buying Reddit upvotes so they tagged me. If you're not sure in the first place, wouldn't it be fairer to remove that users neg than to neg me? If you already had a doubt in your mind, how can you act so freely?
12  Other / Meta / Re: Gambling is okay,but selling(or buying) followers is not(neg trust worthy)? on: September 19, 2018, 11:20:00 AM
@Ludji

Actually I probably know more about gambling than you do. I ran a horse racing book at school. I played cards for a living for a year when I was 19, and I helped a friend to set up a casino in the West End of London. Also, I made money playing Blackjack in Casinos before they changed the rules. I've also promoted on-line casinos.

Now lets look at alcohol. Excessive alcohol or alcohol dependence is bad - there is no question about that. Is alcohol in moderation bad? well I don't believe that it is. What is bad is cheap alcohol, and this is because of the impurities in it. It is far better to educate people in the enjoyment of the taste of quality alcoholic drinks, and to wean them off the pursuit of escape through the effects of alcohol. Much the same applies to gambling. It is far better to address the causes of destructive behaviour, than to try to ban it, and force it underground.

With reference to banks - how many people research the banks exposure to toxic debt and derivatives, or understand the risks of bail-ins, Their choice of bank is a gamble based on the bank's advertising in most cases.

We can argue who knows more about it, but I'd rather not talk about it. It's fair to say we are both knowledgeable about it.

So should I start a fake follower education seminar informing people that fake followers exist? Should I tell them companies use fake followers on social media or is it fair to say that it's well known? Drugs are also a well knows subject, when is the forum going to start advertising them? I'm sure everyone knows the risk of using drugs.

Your funds are insured in banks at least up to a certain point depending on the country, mostly around 50k to 80k. It's safe to say whoever deposits more than that has done his research or at least has someone who does his finance.
13  Economy / Reputation / Re: Spam service? on: September 19, 2018, 10:41:55 AM
I'm not sure why a thread was opened against this specific user but there are tons of similar threads in the Digital Goods/Services sections which offer exact same services. @Op, you should probably check them out and get them tagged as well.
That's a non-argument. At any given point in time, there is an overwhelming amount of users that need to be tagged (but still aren't). If you have free time and are willing to, compile a list and post it here.

You're a joke Lauda, your deflecting and avoiding any real answers has been brought to perfection. There's nothing to compile, all you have to do is type followers in the search bar. Your behavior is outright disgraceful and just shows how you long for authority and power. I'm glad I wasn't around when you were a staff member, that must have been a pain to watch.

Will be my only reply here.

Gambling (and advertising it) isn't considered immoral. Everything is clear, and known in advance. Players expect to lose, some can win.
It's the player with himself only, really. Most (if not all) of crypto-related gambling websites, are provably fair.

Fake followers give a wrong, falsely boosted, picture of the project, and hence this is a deceitful strategy.
This is what crooks do, really. Deceive people.  Roll Eyes


It actually is. I don't know where you got that picture, maybe it helps you sleep at night since you also advertise them. The damage gambling does is horrific, maybe you'll learn that someday. Addicts are sick and you are fueling their addiction for a couple of bucks? "He'll gamble anyway" is not a valid argument. It's very possible for an addict to see your signature and relapse, believe it or not, so stop hiding behind statements like those.

Same can be said for drugs, you know what you're doing, nothing is hidden, "it's the player with himself only"?  Roll Eyes See the resemblance?

Selling other people's personal details (in this case, their email address), without their knowledge or consent is inherently untrustworthy.

Fake views/likes/upvotes are exactly that - fake. Their only purpose is to deceive other users, which is again inherently untrustworthy.

Other users deserve a warning about this before conducting business with Ludji. The red trust is warranted IMO.


I really wanted to be a valuable member for your information

You still can be. You are not being banned.

It's called marketing. Every fucking brand in the world has fake followers, but that's wrong it seems. I'm not to be trusted because I run a legit business, never scammed anyone, don't have negative reviews. Sure. What's the point of contributing when a wild DT member can piss on you whenever they want. Should I run an escrow service like Lauda? Should I join a gambling signature campaign if I want to earn money? This forum is a joke, the real cancer here are the power-hungry DT members, who can't stand anyone else with an opinion.


EDIT: Even the mods deleted my question to Lauda and marloboroza in this thread. It seems I stepped on someone toes here.

Here's a thread where a few Hero and Legendary members buy or ask about SMM services: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1937884.0


When will you tag them?
14  Other / Meta / Re: Gambling is okay,but selling(or buying) followers is not(neg trust worthy)? on: September 19, 2018, 10:35:02 AM
People lose homes on the stock market. #BanStocks #BanOptions #BanInvesting
Cash is used by criminals. #BanCash
Banks are used by criminals. #BanBanks
Cars are used by criminals. #BanCars
Running is used by criminals. #BanRunning
Bitcoin is illegal in some places. #BanBitcoin
People lose homes through lawsuits/criminal investigations. #BanTheLegalSystem
The Internet is used by criminals. #BanTheInternet

etc

What are you trying to get at? Gambling is one of the worst sins a man can have, it's made so only the casino wins. Don't try to dumb it down. The stock market is a capital market, gambling has no purpose other than to make the casinos money. Your stupid examples have only shown how ignorant you are of the damage gambling can do. Also, I don't see any regulation in the Bitcoin gambling world, do you?

The promotion of gambling sites is a difficult decision. Gambling choices are a part of modern life unfortunately. Even the choice of a bank to use for your fiat transactions has become a bit of a gamble. People visit casinos for recreational purposes, and, if they are sensible and don't lose more than they would spend on other entertainment, then I believe it is their choice. Addiction in any form is bad, and people should seek help if they do have a damaging addiction - this includes smoking, vaping, drugs, alcohol, and sex as well as gambling.

I have promoted gambling sites in the past, and I have pointed out to players that they will lose. The choice of casino just varies the rate and the amount of the loss. By restricting recommendations to the sites that provide the best entertainment value, I believe that you are helping a surfer who is determined to play. It also provides a chance to include links to sites and services that will help the surfer to control his losses.

They are most certainly not a part of modern life. The choice of a bank is a gamble, please clarify this point? People visit casinos because they are gamblers, you clearly have never seen the damage it does to both people and their families. There is nothing "recreational" about it. Sensible is an unknown term for any gambler. You've pointed out players will lose? It's like selling drugs and saying people will die, it's not any better mate.

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"By restricting recommendations to the sites that provide the best entertainment value, I believe that you are helping a surfer who is determined to play"
-No. Just no. Look, you can advertise it all you want mate, nothing will come of it, but what you believe in is certainly not true. You're not helping anyone.

Please don't get me wrong, you're free to do whatever you want, but I'd like to ask you, is selling fake followers or views comparable to promoting gambling, a sin that is illegal in some states and that has cost people their home and life. Why are these members deciding what is moral and what is not? Where is their moral or did they earn the right to not have morals and judge others at the same time?



15  Other / Meta / Re: Advertising gambling is okay, but selling fake followers is not? on: September 19, 2018, 12:18:32 AM
I post in this forum because I want to see what the users think and because nobody is replying on the original thread since marlboroza "warned" them not to reply.
This is blatant lie. I suggested users not to reply to your off topic replies:
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I would suggest everyone not to respond to Ludji's post, as they are trying to move this topic in other direction.

I already said that and quoted it? You are both evading like crazy, yet feel the need to give out lessons to users who are not looking to do any wrong here. Answer the question I asked you already and stop evading.You still, haven't come up with a good answer?
16  Economy / Reputation / Re: Spam service? on: September 18, 2018, 10:18:17 PM
I'm not sure why a thread was opened against this specific user but there are tons of similar threads in the Digital Goods/Services sections which offer exact same services. @Op, you should probably check them out and get them tagged as well.

Because they don't even know what they are doing. Let them have their power trip in peace since they don't even bother answering my question. This forum is going downhill for sure.
17  Other / Meta / Re: Advertising gambling is okay, but selling fake followers is not? on: September 18, 2018, 09:21:18 PM
Hey man, why you post it in meta? Trust isn't moderated by forum. There is appropriate reference link why you got tagged. And I think it's valid reason to tag you.

I post in this forum because I want to see what the users think and because nobody is replying on the original thread since marlboroza "warned" them not to reply. Also, this is a forum-wide issue and concernes the forum and staff.

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Forum isn't limited for some state. Forum is like open source. Bitcoin isn't legal all over world. So we need to closed this forum?

What's this supposed to mean?


You've said this already yet done the opposite. You seem to be a liar.

You still haven't answered the question Lauda. I just want to see what the users of Bitcointalk think about this, maybe they're not all hypocrites like you and marlboroza.
18  Other / Meta / Re: Advertising gambling is okay, but selling fake followers is not? on: September 18, 2018, 09:14:29 PM
I hope the senior members are satisfied with their decision, now they can go back to earning a few bucks on people that are squandering their money away through their affiliate links. Well done!
There are no affiliate links in any of the mentioned signatures. Time to go away and everyone will be much more satisfied.

I was talking about this thread from marlboroza, by the way, who accused me in the first place:

I need best ad network for gambling site

So Lauda, you think that it's okay to advertise something that is illegal in some states, plain wrong and can cost someone their life literally? Why are you both evading the question? Don't worry, I'll leave the forum, you've done your job. Nice to see how DT members are responsible and not emotion-driven. Meanwhile, you dumdums can't even answer a simple question, because you know very well how wrong you are. Stop being hypocrites and acting like saints when you're not. What you're doing is ten times worse for the community.
19  Other / Meta / Gambling is okay,but selling(or buying) followers is not(neg trust worthy)? on: September 18, 2018, 09:00:03 PM
So I received neg trust just now by a user(Lauda) after being accused by marlboroza.

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Is Ludji running spam service?

Selling a crypto/bitcoin mailing list, 30k e-mail adresses http://archive.is/GdBLU

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TWITTER FOLLOWERS 🐤| ✔️PASS TWITTER AUDIT ✔️🚀 100% WORKING | START 0-24H 🚀 http://archive.is/P9t4F

Strange they don't offer ICO bumping service  Roll Eyes


I would really like to hear opinions about this.

After their "consideration" Lauda decided to give me neg trust because they already negged one user for buying Reddit upvotes(and I'm selling them). Meanwhile, the members "considering my case" either advertise gambling or tumblers-mixers(which are used by criminals). So, I ask you, members, how is what I did immoral and wrong, but advertising gambling websites, which is illegal in some states, is totally okay with everyone? People lose homes gambling, which can't be said for fake Twitter followers lol.

I asked the same on the thread where they considered this, which is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032160.0

I haven't received a reply, but marlboroza decided to "warn" everyone:

I would suggest everyone not to respond to Ludji's post, as they are trying to move this topic in other direction.

I just want the users and staff of Bitcointalk to realize what they are doing. I never scammed, lied, or cheated anyone on this forum and I received neg trust. Meanwhile your senior users advertise illegal things and they are the law here. I hope the senior members are satisfied with their decision, now they can go back to earning a few bucks on people that are squandering their money away through their affiliate links. Well done!
20  Economy / Reputation / Re: Spam service? on: September 18, 2018, 08:39:29 PM
I would suggest everyone not to respond to Ludji's post, as they are trying to move this topic in other direction.
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Yeah, I'm asking you to answer me, not anyone else. Nothing needs moving in another direction, members can say what they want about my case I can't stop them lol. I'm just interested in your answer? How is advertising gambling sites for money moral(since it's not legal in some places), but fake followers are not?

EDIT: Ah, thanks Lauda. I see you are the first to tag me. Good job losing another member.
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