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821  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Don't trust ripple! It's a get rich quick scheme for the creators. on: April 18, 2013, 05:19:46 PM
Handing out currency to miners is no more and no less ethical than handing them out to the founders of a new currency. Use a currency if it serves your purposes and don't if it doesn't. Stop whining, Bitcoin doesn't exist to give you mining income or to let you get rich from any stash of bitcoins you might have amassed when they were still cheap. If Ripple takes off, it will be great for both BTC and XRP. If XRP ends up out-competing BTC, fine. It that means your bitcoins will become worthless, then boo-hoo-hoo.
822  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple SCAM: You *do not* own BTC or USD, you own debt that will collapse on: April 17, 2013, 04:54:46 PM
The OP should stop bad-mouthing Ripple. He either doesn't understand it, or he is simply scare-mongering, perhaps falsely worried that his stash of BTC will become worthless. Ripple will be great for Bitcoin, but XRP will also be a competitor. Great, because competition is good. And the IOU system is actually what allows a liquid market for exchanging between crypto and real currencies to exist even in the face of government repression. If everyone is paid in fiat and needs to make payments in fiat but wants to store value in crypto, then their social network will provide a mechanism for turning wages into crypto and crypto into fiat when needed.

To the OP and other posters critical of Ripple: please do you homework first before you start throwing around insults and accusations.
823  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple or Bitcoin on: April 17, 2013, 08:48:02 AM
Ripple has the same level of anonymity as Bitcoin.
824  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin on: April 17, 2013, 06:48:32 AM
If you want to trade between BTC and fiat currencies, then Ripple will likely be the best place to do it.
825  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple or Bitcoin on: April 16, 2013, 04:47:16 PM
Yea adoption, not get rich quick schemes... Roll Eyes

Investing in a business is not a get rick quick scheme. Venture capitalists don't just pour money into crazy schemes.
826  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Ripples...How Do I buy them? on: April 16, 2013, 03:42:48 PM
there doesnt seem to be a MtGox-type exchange to convert USD to Ripples yet. but it seems easy enough to convert BTC into XRP through bitstamp.

i imagine that there will be an exchange here shortly, or i guess in the Ripple world we would call this a "Gateway".

Ripple is its own exchange. Once you are in, you can use it to buy more XRP.
827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple or Bitcoin on: April 16, 2013, 06:24:09 AM
It just screams "hey i designed this to make myself rich!!!!"

 So what? Many people here hold some BTC in the hope it will be very valuable one day. And the stash of XRP allows them to run a business and to stabilise the exchange rate, both of which are great for adoption. And adoption is the number one problem.
828  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin clients should have a MESSAGE option ! on: April 15, 2013, 10:28:25 PM
You can already encode messages into the blockchain if you want, though the qt client doesn't offer any GUI functionality for this and miners may reject nonstandard transactions.
829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple or Bitcoin on: April 15, 2013, 09:56:14 PM
It should make it easier for them to get funding, which should help with development, publicity and ecosystem building. It would also allow them to stabilise the exchange rate to a degree, which could help enormously. I've heard that's what they're doing, but I don't know if they've made any official statements about it.
830  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: If you register your own namecoin domain, do u need to keep a DNS server running on: April 15, 2013, 04:15:04 PM
You don't need to run your own DNS server if you're willing to rely on existing DNS servers that already work with .bit domains. You'd probably want to use something like FoxyProxy to make sure not every DNS request goes through such a server.

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831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple or Bitcoin on: April 15, 2013, 04:08:44 PM
Even without gateways the trust network between individuals could provide a black market between fiat currencies and XRP / BTC even if merchants were forbidden to use XRP / BTC. This would be a very desirable development in say Zimbabwe. It could overthrow the government.
832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple or Bitcoin on: April 15, 2013, 07:00:43 AM
"..., unless in some distant future there's a consensus of validators to change it." is exactly reserving the right to print money.

No more than is the case with Bitcoin. A large enough consensus can always change the rules, possibly leading to a fork.
833  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Ripple: A Distributed Exchange for Bitcoin on: April 15, 2013, 06:52:49 AM
Ripple is more like Western Union than Bitcoin - only difference is its cheaper and faster.

Not the only difference. Crucially, it also supports BTC and offers a distributed exchange. This will make it much easier for merchants to support BTC and for consumers to get their hands on BTC. Even in countries where the government makes BTC illegal.
834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: All coins exept bitcoin and scrypt coins are vulnerable on: April 14, 2013, 01:27:43 PM
I suggest you to check specs of top 10 supercomputers existing right now. You'll be shocked to see they are just perfect for scrypt mining.

I wasn't talking about scrypt, but as an aside: do those 10 supercomputers have more hashing power than all PCs owned by individuals combined?
835  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: All coins exept bitcoin and scrypt coins are vulnerable on: April 14, 2013, 12:46:20 PM
I'm not sure that's true if mining is based on an algorithm that cannot be done spectacularly faster or with spectacularly less energy consumption on ASICs than on CPUs.
836  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: ASIC Miners - The Next Great Bitcoin Vulnerability? on: April 14, 2013, 12:17:55 PM
asic deployment will make it nigh impossible for an outside force to destroy btc via computing power, so imo it will make it safer. there will be mining farms, just like there are today, and there will also be a horde of nerdy entrepreneurs with a couple rigs, just like today.

But ASICs for mining could be outlawed and successfully suppressed by governments because there are only relatively small numbers of suitable production facilities. This could not be done for FPGAs as they have many legitimate other uses as well and can be programmed in the field. In addition governments could deploy large ASIC farms themselves thus potentially achieving >51% of hashing power.
837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple or Bitcoin on: April 14, 2013, 11:19:55 AM
Ripple may be a great way to trade in normal fiat currencies, but I don't really care to do that anymore, now that Bitcoin exists. Yes, it's true that Ripple has XRP which is a cryptocurrency with many similar features to Bitcoin, but it offers no advantage over Bitcoin, and thus why do I care to use it? I might as well use LiteCoin  Tongue

I see Ripple as a great way to help the transition from fiat to crypto. Even if it succumbs to the threats you mention, it may still have helped Bitcoin or some other cryptocurrency gain acceptance.
838  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Ripples and BTC on: April 14, 2013, 07:26:12 AM
Hard to imagine XPR will be anything more than a novelty.  The secret to BitCoin are two fold, there is no central control and there aren't so many outstanding.

Once the source code is released and new servers start popping up all over the place Ripple will be as distributed as Bitcoin. And since it is quicker and can be used to make convenient fiat payments it could see much faster adoption. If it is true that OpenCoin intends to stabilise the value of the XRP, this too will help its adoption.

As far the number of coins, XRP too has a fixed, finite supply, just like BTC. And, again as with BTC, not all of them are in circulation. BTC issues them as a reward for mining, XRP is premined and given away to new users.
839  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Ripple: A Distributed Exchange for Bitcoin on: April 13, 2013, 03:32:24 PM
OpenCoin temporarily acting as a central bank could be advantageous for adoption. They could prevent the exchange rate from rising too fast by selling from their hoard of XRPs. In doing so they could build up a stash of real world currency which they could use to buy up XRP if the exchange rate drops too quickly. They could also destroy some of their hoard. If XRP appreciates slowly but steadily, then it would be attractive both as a payment mechanism and as a store of value.
840  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Ripples and BTC on: April 13, 2013, 03:27:13 PM
Keeping the exchange rate from going through the roof could be another reason. A virtual currency is useless as a payment mechanism if it is very volatile.
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