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1581  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: August 19, 2017, 06:19:35 AM
From a price point of view, definitely bitcoin will be superior, but from global volume any bitcoin will never replace it let alone dollars and every real currency is the identity authority of a country. Thus, bitcoin still has to work hard on this, because it is not easy to incorporate decentralization into a world full of centralized systems.
1582  Economy / Economics / Re: Are cryptocurrencies better than regular currency on: August 19, 2017, 06:11:33 AM
Yes because the user of cryptocurrency is still not as big as fiat, so this time is still better, but I'm sure one day crypto currency also will not be different from fiat because of regulation factor and application of taxation sector, I do not think too much of this and trading as much possibly to the limits of future specified crypto rules.
1583  Economy / Economics / Re: Stock market vs. Bitcoin??? on: August 19, 2017, 05:56:24 AM
Hi traders!
Does somebody here do trading in stock market and also trading in bitcoin? Which is more profitable and safe?
Thanks ahead!
I just traded bitcoins fair altcoins and some amount of profit be invested in local stocks markets,
choose the bluechip stocks for long time and we will get the dividen of profit from the company,
 for short term investing trading of course trading in digital coins (altcoins) is more profitable than stocks
but for the saving of whealty stocks are best choice and we will get passive income too.

I do not really like margins and something in the form of option/binary, bitcoin opens up more of my thoughts to buy and sell, this condition is very different from the stock market because they use more parties to intervene in the interests of every company. In this case bitcoin market is better.
1584  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: regret by not believing in BITCOIN? on: August 18, 2017, 10:12:06 AM
In my opinion, many of my friends are regret for not appreciating the explanation of my experience, when I am still a beginner and have not earned a little income, they just see it as a cliche advertisement and start to move away from me, but when my life changed they are just shy and feel very hypocritical, there is nothing I can do but smile.
1585  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should I cash out my BTC now? on: August 18, 2017, 10:02:40 AM
Depending on your needs and wants, I will also do the same thing with the thought of continuing to produce bitcoin every day. So the balance will happen because bitcoin has short-term fluctuations that sometimes make us emotional, if we wait for the high price it will be very effective to spend cash every month only.
1586  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you agree that Bitcoin is nearly to be just like another business? on: August 18, 2017, 09:23:39 AM
I think bitcoin is not just another business.  I think bitcoin is an instrument to take power away from banks and other financial institution.  It was created to limit the power of banks and remittances when we are transferring funds or in short when it comes to finance transaction.  It also made the bank system obsolete due to bitcoin blockchains technology.  I think bitcoin is not just another business but rather a key to a new era of financial system.

But we live in a civilization that does not expect decentralization, it would be a strong contradiction if bitcoin stands alone and against all systems of civilization independently, bitcoin should be able to enter into government regulations or be considered dissidents and potentially undermine the consistency of civilization, bitcoin is not considered another business if it can enter the legal tender of a country.
1587  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin a currency or asset? on: August 18, 2017, 09:17:06 AM
In my opinion, bitcoin is an asset. Why is that? Let's look at the bitcoin price when it first appears. Has not it gone up many times now? So making bitcoin as an asset is a very appropriate choice.

If you consider it an asset then you do not need to use bitcoin for everyday purposes, you tend to think about long-term prospects and the fact that bitcoin serves as a medium of exchange every day. It is more perfect if we think of it as a currency that has a double role as an investment asset.
1588  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: bagaimana cara mengatur waktu? on: August 17, 2017, 06:07:24 PM
saat ini jam sudah tidak bisa dipatok lagi, apabila sayah sedang libur projek riil sayah pasti garap semaksimal mungkin sampai jenuh dan lelah sekitar 15-20 jam (tidak setiap hari) namun jika ternyata harus garap proposal lapangan sayah hanya bisa menyempatkan waktu sekitar 3 jam-an, apapun itu yang penting bounty sayah tidak keteteran, nyesek rasanya kalau stake kita ada nol=nya.
1589  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [NEWS] HBO Diretas, Hackernya Meminta Tebusan Berupa Bitcoin on: August 17, 2017, 06:02:02 PM
sekarang hacker serba salah juga, contoh kasus ransomware kemarin tu hasil yang diperoleh sampai saat ini masih ngendap tidak bisa dicairkan, karena otoritas pemerintah selalu pantau setiap transaksi dan akhirnya sampai beberapa ke cryptodao, tetap tidak akan bisa masuk sampai rekening bank karena sudah jadi target fbi dan sebagainya, dalam hal ini juga HBO serba salah karena sistemnya sudah ditembus plus data sudah diambil, mau diancam model apapun suatu saat bisa dileaked kapan saja.
1590  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Jika pengguna bitcoin suatu saat ditark pajak... mau??? on: August 17, 2017, 05:55:06 PM
Jika kelak Pemerintah melegalkan Bitcoin pastinya ane setuju saja untuk membayar Pajak karena kita hidup di bawah pemerintahan , entah mau di korupsi atau tidak nya semua serahkan pada sang pencipta , terpenting niat kita untuk membayar kewajiban sebagai masyarakat .

Kalau membayar pajak adalah sebagai sebuah keharusan, tentu tidak ada jalan lain bagi kita untuk menolaknya. Dan sebagai warga yang baik tentu kita harus tunduk dan patuh kepada aturan yang telah dibuat dan disepakati bersama.

ya pajak juga pasti diatur sesuai proporsi penghasilan mas, dan yang mining atau trading dengan pendapatan diatas rata2 pasti bebannya lebih banyak, tapi selama lancar sih tidak apa-apa, bahkan banyak orang yang simpan aset mereka di swiss atau kuba cuma untuk sekedar hindari pajak, karena penghasilan sayah tidak seperti itu, saya 100 persen setuju dengan penerapan pajak di bitcoin.
1591  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: BITCOIN atau Pekerja Kantoran? on: August 17, 2017, 05:48:26 PM
sayah bisa dua-duanya walaupun sayah hanya pekerja proyek di lapangan, memang kalau punya pekerjaan riil tu bisa menopang semuanya, terutama buat yang tidak punya modal awal jadi bisa dicover dengan gaji rupiah. jika dirasa modal sudah cukup baru bisa berpikir untuk menjadi bitcoin entrepeneur sejati. Status sosial juga penting tapi tergantung pemahaman masing2 orang saja.
1592  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: BTT Down ? on: August 17, 2017, 05:39:18 PM
Wah bener banget gan saya merasakan sempat beberapa kali, karna terlalu banyak nya yang mengakses Bitcoin maka sering terjadi gangguan.
Ya betul gan btt mungkin banyak pengunjungnya jadi susah di akses saya juga ngalamin dari kemaren-kemaren, bahkan tadi pas mau login pun susah masuknya sibuk terus, pengunjungnya meningkat pas malam-malam gini, kalau di bule kan jam segini lagi siang jadi banyak yang akses

sayah merasakannya juga, bukan 1-2 x tapi setiap mau ngepost tiba2 busy lagi, mungkin ini kelanjutan dari penerapan captcha saat login sehingga admin juga sekalian ingin maintenance masalah server, karena format smf forum yang dipakai adalah format lama mungkin bisa pengaruh ke jumlah ip yang masuk, sabar saja mas yang penting bitcointalk masih bisa diakses dan tidak hilang.
1593  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with the people who don't like Bitcoin? on: August 13, 2017, 03:24:12 AM
I never find anyone who hates bitcoin, but people who do not really understand about bitcoin much, if I meet someone who hates bitcoin, I will show my real work inside this bitcoin.

They hate being stuck in bitcoin hyip/ponzi investments, such players are dominated by people who are lazy to learn about the wider bitcoin business, I often find people like this and finally I explain to them that bitcoin is not just an investment, there are still many things that In essence they are not familiar with this forum.
1594  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How about them WAVES!!?? on: August 13, 2017, 02:55:26 AM
Who's holding WAVES or thinking about getting WAVES??  What are you guys most excited to see about the WAVES!!?
I am going to get some as lots of people said it's a good coin to invest for long term .

Waves are used for transactional purposes in their markets, it is certain that waves are the second best alternative after ethereum, a bright future for this coin because of its complex and reliable functionality though not as popular as smart contracts.
1595  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: many ICO altcoin , What can be trusted? on: August 13, 2017, 02:51:00 AM
Actually, I also had the same question before. Because many projects are looking good when we see it from outside. When I read the comments here, I got some knowledge about how to select ICO altcoin trusted. Of course first we must look into the background of the team and the members as much we can. And need to look their whitepaper and road map to understand their project how it is going. I think these will help to understand what are spam or not.

The most important thing is how much developer activity is on slack and in this forum, if they do not update and answer any questions then I can make sure not to follow their ICO, I am a critical person and want to see certainty before investing.
1596  Economy / Economics / Re: What prevents companies from "losing" money in crypto? on: August 12, 2017, 07:26:32 AM
Companies don't integrate one part of investment and salary in bitcoin form, fluctuations that occur will be very vulnerable for employees and companies, better allocate bitcoin to tender bonus just because bitcoin can't be understood stably, if you want to avoid losses then equate bitcoin with equivalent value with fiat and explain to employees that this is an optional option for employee salaries and they should understand all the risks.
1597  Economy / Economics / Re: Why the world really needs virtual currencies on: August 12, 2017, 07:18:57 AM
Because at some point natural resources make the creation of physical currency very expensive, and the government must find ways to find other alternatives, when they switch to digital currency, it will save a lot of financial budget and become a role model. The most important is a bitcoin capable of being a pioneer with a unique system, so many governments will implement peer-to-peer systems and adapt to individual country policies.
1598  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: August 12, 2017, 07:12:06 AM
Maybe many will choose bitcoin because the price is really high and it continue to go up as day pass by...bit for me I still choose gold because the fluctutations in the value of bitcoin is something I am afraid of...maybe today the value is good but how about after a year unlike gold with a stable value in the market. It maybe not as higher as bitcoin but it is sure.

Short-term fluctuations of bitcoin will greatly disrupt the novice investor, but this is a big advantage for the daily trader, with increased trading volume ensuring the bitcoin value continues to increase every year, gold is an investment asset with a very slow movement, suitable for retired workers and those who used to playing safe, but if we hard workers should not miss collecting assets from bitcoin or will regret in the future.
1599  Economy / Economics / Re: Can bitcoin improve the economy of a country? on: August 12, 2017, 07:05:14 AM
This issue is mixed opinion, many people think that Bitcoin can help the economy grow up, but more people have the opposite opinion. Bitcoin is now regarded as a national currency, which can shrink economic growth and even cause the economy to collapse. The deflationary nature of digital currency means that they will not function as well as a currency or medium of exchange in a modern economy. For me, that Bitcoin can develop the economy but it can also reduce the development of the economy, depending on the way people manage and behave towards the copper bitcoin.

All can be arranged in accordance with the applicable taxation system, maybe this will reduce the results we get but bitcoin can still run side by side, we can see japan and china at this time because they are very focus on applying Kyc to bitcoin user, bitcoin can help the country economy due to their volume trading cannot be underestimated and apply globally.
1600  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin dead? on: August 12, 2017, 06:55:13 AM
It seems like not, now everyone is starting to know about bitcoin and I'm sure bitcoin can last for at least 25 more years or more, if any country accept bitcoin, i sure bitcoin will survive at least 50 years from now.

People who are jealous of bitcoin's success will keep on saying that bitcoin is dead. And it is not going to happen, bitcoin will stay almost a life time as it's value is keep on increasing. I just don't have an idea if there's also another conspiracy about bitcoin for implementing the cashless society.

They are pessimistic because bitcoin legal rules are not yet clear, but I'm sure when bitcoin prices are so high then they will be left behind and think that bitcoin is hard to reach, I myself never think too long, if there is potential and opportunity then I will chase as much bitcoin as possible condition, bitcoin will never die.
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