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1601  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: 2017 Musim bounty? Apa Targetmu? on: August 11, 2017, 08:30:11 AM
koin2nya masih sayah kumpulin mas, mungkin sudah 2-3 bounty sayah lewatin.
belum tau ini koin mau diapakan soalnya ratenya kecil terus, buat mas yang terbiasa trading koinnya dihold apa langsung di sell?
tahun ini musim bounty altcoin sudah lumayan, sayah jadi banyak pilihan, tahun lalu pilihannya sedikit dan kebanyakan download wallet windows.
1602  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Kesalahan para newbie yg mengikuti forum bitcoin...? on: August 11, 2017, 08:13:46 AM
aku dulu kesalahnya suka salah dalam menggunakan kata dan tidak panjang . jadi sering di hapus postnya. sekarang sudah tidak lagi
Sama gan, lama tidak aktif ternyata ada message cukup banyak post yang dihapus momod karena terlalu singkat jadi terasa spam kali yak. Banyak belajar dari situ akhirnya

dalam kampanye aja syaratnya minimal 75 karakter, kalau masnya bisa minimal rajin 2x lipat karakter itu atau lebih sudah jaminan tidak akan dihapus asal seusai topik, aku ditanya teman yang newbie kemarin, mereka ilang semangatnya saat post dihapus mod dan sekarang bingung mau tulis apa sampai jidat mengkerut, sayah jadi ketawa karena yang penting jangan spam dan biasakan tuangkan semua yang ada di pikiran, sebingung apapaun pikiran manusia tidak pernah kosong.
1603  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apakah penghasilan dari bitcoin kena pajak penghasilan? on: August 11, 2017, 06:53:00 AM
Belum ada undang-undang yg mengatur tentang bitcoin
karena bitcoin kan masih belum di ilegalkan oleh pemerintah indonesia untuk penggunaannya
bitcoin masih simpang siur diindonesia, karena penggunanya sendiri belum terlalu banyak.
selain itu pemerintah juga tidak mendukung maupun melarang bitcoin jadi ya dinikmati saja dulu untuk sekarang mah

atensi pemerintah sudah ada, buktinya vip dibiarkan berdiri tegak. penyerapan sektor pajak dari vip pasti sangat besar.
keuntungan kita hanya pembebanan pajak negara hanya dari konversi btc ke fiat dan sebaliknya, dan tidak yang lain
pph belum bisa diterapkan dan walaupun sri mulyani-nya mau, itu belum tentu dapat atensi dari banggar dpr per partai yang kolot.
1604  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Akses Bitcointalk dengan smartphone on: August 11, 2017, 06:46:09 AM
setau saya sih tepatalk bisa kalo dirasa browser keberatan
ane pernah coba site kaskus sih tp blom pernah coba kalo buat bitcointalk,
mungkin ada yg bisa konfirmasi kalo tepatalk bisa dipake buat bitcointalk?

bisa kok mas coba saja, cuma nanti masnya bisa kena kasus karakter saat ikut campaign karena tapatalk selalu kasih trademark dibawah posting (posting from tapatalk), pakai browser biasa saja, uc juga bisa, sayah pakai smartphone cuma buat baca-baca bitcointalk dan saat memang sedang kerja lapangan. selebih itu tetap pakai laptop.
1605  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Nilai tukar bitcoin semakin turun apa persiapan yang anda lakukan saat ini? on: August 11, 2017, 06:39:57 AM
trend dari awal bulan malah sedang naik mas, kaluk bulan lalu memang iya, tapi jika argumennya adalah semakin turun dan sayah kebetulan juga masih belajar, yang dipikiran hanya main aman saja, bulan lalu pun sayah termasuk orang yang ikutan panik dan menjual semua bitcoin yang ada, tidak ada persiapan khusus hanya sekedar melihat kondisi terkini.
1606  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Cash is better than Bitcoin. on: August 04, 2017, 01:42:53 AM

Cash still being better then bitcoin due to the multiple ways you can use it, while bitcoin for now its limited to digital marketplace, but remember fiat is centralized, while bitcoin its decentralized and with a huge potencial of grow value.
Of course at this time where the technology is not too sophisticated of course many people would prefer to use cash money to shop and any transaction, because with cash you can shop anywhere, whereas with digital currencies such as bitcoin is still very limited


Bitcoin will replace the cash if the government regulations are final, they still have limited knowledge of bitcoin so keep using conventional payment patterns, many people can do bitcoin transactions through android, and I believe it only takes legal right to be booming in a short time.
1607  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you plan to quit the altcoin world? on: August 04, 2017, 01:30:09 AM
Have you ever thought about quitting this completely? My friend just bought some Monero and BTC and he said NO! Screw the altcoin guys! I'll work and relax and check back yearly. Cool dude. Needless to say he made more than 90% of daily traders in the year

No I do not plan to quit altcoins, I gained on them, not as big as bitcoins does but still I gaub profit on them so why do I quit on the ones eho provides me an additional profit. I also have bitcoins and I gained on them much bigger than any other altcoins, but it's not bad to try new things and to explore holding some other coins. Maybe one day they might pump and you're not holding anything of them, it's your loss not mine. Just have faith in them and support them.

If we are a person who likes to think and act actively then we can not just hold on to one coin to make a profit, altcoin is an inseparable part of bitcoin so we will experience disappointment if leaving it, many altcoins have a bright future like ethereum and I think Bch also has the same potential.
1608  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is your biggest regrets in cryptocurrency? on: August 04, 2017, 01:23:26 AM
In regards to cryptocurrency, I regret not learning altcoin for a long time, so far I focus on learning and following bitcoin campaigns, the benefits of altcoin are huge because of the variety of coins offered, but I do not regret and keep trying to understand the crypto currency every day
1609  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is ICO ? on: August 04, 2017, 01:16:03 AM
ICO is the first stock offering aimed at attracting investors before they launch in the trading market, many bonuses and tokens they sell below the primary price to hook users and for token success. This is very effective in campaign and business promotion.
1610  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What are you doing with BCC on: August 04, 2017, 01:09:01 AM
At first I thought of selling bcc as soon as possible, but seeing some markets like coinbase and poloniex would also use them in their market, my mind changed a bit, bcc indirectly will have business potential even though I have not understood it.
1611  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will bitcoin be used to support terrorists? on: August 03, 2017, 09:30:56 AM
I have never had strong evidence that terrorists are connected with bitcoin transactions, as long as this is just a diversion of issues because in the middle east country all internet activity is restricted and tapped by western countries, there is no privacy they can freely use, If problems are directed to North korea then I can believe because this country closed all access the outside world with the progress of information technology.
1612  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you like best about bitcoin? on: August 03, 2017, 09:14:01 AM
I know this is such a common answer but what i like best about bitcoin is the price. The price that keep increasing so that i can gain profit from it. And the value that's high, and the possibility to get rich from it.

The fact that every bitcoin short-term fluctuation continues to increase every year, bitcoin is perfect for long-term investments, I consider that bitcoin is best because the transaction process is simple and many of the business offers it offers are not as restrictive as fiat-the number of competitors makes everyone do not have equal opportunity.
1613  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can bitcoin survive? on: August 03, 2017, 08:58:45 AM
After there is a BCC can the bitcoin survive or bitcoin will be much more up the price after this
What do you think about this?

How can you be so ignorant of course Bitcoin is going to survive and only Bitcoins will survive. Bitcoin cash Is not Bitcoin it's a alt and it shall disappear very soon. Bc Is a waste and Mark my words people will really be sad of they buy it, they don't have the majority support, how long do you think they can continue. They will sooner or later disappear.

Still not predictable about bch because currently there is still a lot of transaction volume, but there is a tendency to go down because its function is not clear, this will not affect bitcoin because only cluster with altcoin, after bch has fallen. Then the organic path of bitcoin will return to normal.
1614  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Keuntungan Beli Akun Di Bitcoin Talk on: August 02, 2017, 08:55:21 AM
beli akun kalau prospeknya langsung balik modal dalam beberapa minggu tetap layak untuk diperhatikan, sayah masih menimbang opsi tersebut saat ada yang tawarkan akun yang ikut bitmixer, tapi setelah campaignnya selesai sayah tidak tau lagi masih ada yang menawarkan atau tidak. kalau ada yang tawaran lagi aku tertarik untuk membelinya terutama yang ikut campaign bitcoin bayaran besar.
1615  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: lebih banyak ngabisin dimana, forum bitcoin kah, game online kah, sosmed kah? on: August 02, 2017, 08:49:54 AM
semuanya berkesinambungan saling berhubungan, kalo saya pribadi semuanya aktif hehehehe
contoh setelah saya buka forum bitcoin aktifitas seperti biasanya lalu buka sosmed  mencari info info penting atau sekedar chat chat biasa. baru bermain game untuk menghilangkan penat di kepala hehehehehe.

sama gan gw juga beigut, karena untuk mendapatkan sesuatu disini selain dari signature ya musti punya akun sosmed seperti fb dan twitter, kadang ada juga youtube.. nah selain mengelola akun bitcointalk kan kita juga perlu mengelola akun sosmed kita biar bisa nambah teman atau followernya...
terus maen game juga perlu sekali-kali buat ngilangkan stress gw.. kadang capek gan baca artikel yang pakai bahasa inggris.. mumet kepala serasa berasap mau pecah rasanya  Sad

refreshing memang perlu mas, soal english awalnya memang gitu, sayah sikapi dengan posting local jika sudah stres baca thread global
forum lebih prioritas untuk waktu, dan sosmed dan blog cuma iseng2 ngebangun follower, sayah belum pernah ikutan bounty sosmed, tapi berusaha terus membangun syarat bounty tersebut.
1616  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pembelanjaan bitcoins sudah mulai di terapkan luas.Apa pendapat anda? on: August 02, 2017, 08:27:22 AM
Menurut saya sangat bagus jika pembelanjaan bitcoin sudah mulai diterapkan luas karena membantu dan mempermudah transaksi gan.,
Jika sudah berjalan, dengan sendirinya masyarakat akan tahu, dan semoga saja pemerintah meresmikan bitcoin sebagai mata uang baru dinegara kita.,
Itu impian ane dari dulu gan biar transaksinya mudah Smiley

lebih tepatnya mata uang bersama mas, sayah juga senantiasa menunggu, regulasi berarti tandanya bisa diedukasi secara publik, dan ini akan dapat respons positif yang lebih cepat, walaupun saat ini masih sebatas online shop dan trading tapi itu sudah cukup membuktikan bahwa bisnis bitcoin sangat diterima indonesia dengan catatan tertentu.
1617  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Harga Token ICO HANCUR? Apa penyebabnya on: August 02, 2017, 08:20:39 AM
isu 1 agustus sudah lewat dan banyak projek yang postponed ico mereka, langkah ini sudah tepat dan saatnya melihat kebangkitan bitcoin dan altcoin. ngegas setinggi mungkin mulai dari saat ini. Sayah menanggapi token ICO yang ratenya turun dipasaran karena faktor delay saja, tergantung si pengembang dan owner strateginya gimana, mana mungkin mereka mau rugi atau lari gitu saja.
1618  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] Aventus - Solusi Tiket Acara Anti Pencurian | Bounty Campaign on: August 02, 2017, 08:12:56 AM
https://blog.aventus.io/floyd-mayweather-vs-connor-mcgregor-tickets-resold-in-excess-of-150-000-85634a985c4b

wuah besar harga tiketnya, sayah takjub dengan aventus bisa handle tiket ini, benar-benar gebrakan besar, peserta signature aventus jilid dua dan yang belum daftar jangan ragu dengan potensi avt karena versi alpha sudah launching, benar-benar riil project yang tidak pakai basa-basi.
1619  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] Aventus - Solusi Tiket Acara Anti Pencurian | Bounty Campaign on: July 28, 2017, 07:24:11 PM
Iya gan join ulang, ane kemarin join Sign camp di v1 dan udah nerima gaji, niatnya mau balik lagi pada minggu ke-2, lumayan bounty neverdie cuman berjalan 1 minggu.
Ditambah team proyek ini semakin besar, bakalan suport proyek ini sampai sukses

v1 sudah distribusi mas ? kok sayah belum ya, bagi custom tokennya kalo gitu mas
di slack juga rame topiknya, keliatan memang benar-benar niat mereka, pantas saja karena konsep ticketing merupakan terobosan baru
kabar terbaru aventus konfirmasi peluncuran ico di london tanggal 25 dan 26 september besok, perjalanan masih panjang.
Token belum didistribusikan gan, kemungkinan setelah ICI berakhir
Informasi ICOnya dilihat dimana gan??
Di thread utama mengatakan ICI pada akhir agustus, tanggal akan diumumkan!

Cek update terakhir : https://blog.aventus.io/aventus-update-5a6a3d2e5a1a


iyah kaget sayah mas sony bilang udah gajian, soal update ada tuh di slacknya mas pekka
syarat signature yang sekarang rumit banget yah, total post harus banyak di inggris, untung sayah bisa dikit-dikit
aku lihat koin ini bakal bagus ratenya karena program jangka panjang, dev planning bukan untuk satu tahun.
1620  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Offline Wallets Vs Online Wallets on: July 28, 2017, 07:03:47 PM
For me I use online walley like coinbase, coins.ph , and blockchain and this three wallet is very safe for me I did not experienced any interruption and any distruction and My bitcoin is safe. I also used before offline wallet but now I used only online wallet. I like online wallet because they have 2fa that gives in yout wallet sa safety from the hacker. For sure what wallet you think is safe online or offline?

2FA is nothing once a web wallet turned into fraud. Im not saying that those big web wallets today will turned into shit but we can't take away the chance of that to happened. History speaks or the usual "we got hacked".

So to answer your question at the end of your post, it will be less risk if you will hold your coins by yourself so you are the only one to blame if those coins will be lost. Then the role of web wallet is to use their features and not for storage purposes.

The use of 2fa in an online wallet is still impenetrable through the email/windows system, I agree with you, none is 100% completely safe, but I also want to minimize personal errors by trying to trust one of the developers of a trusted wallet like blockchain. Offline wallets are also a good choice, but it is very risky if we make a mistake.
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