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141  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: noob question on manual day trading (does my method I made work? with graph) on: February 09, 2021, 09:54:28 PM


That is one way to make good trading you study how it works and you make your own strategy, starting small is a good way to invest you made the decision use the amount of the money that you will not regret using that I think you are ready to lose. From what you said you also need sources on why did you come up with this strategy? or how? this can help a lot of people but for some, they will give it a try without anykind of sources.

Also sorry if Iam going to offend you because this is what I kind of did but I also win but its really time consuming for me I can watch the charts for every 5 mins and by doing this I did not get the chance to learn and I don't know why it did not work for me. At the very least I still did win for a long term of holding.
142  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading bot vs. you -> who's better? on: February 09, 2021, 09:40:07 PM
Hi,
Still learning trading tips&trick and now I reached this chapter of trading with bots.

What's your experience? Did the bot perform better than you? What's your monthly profit (%) via bot compared to the one without it?

thanks

 Before guessing who is the best you might want to Study first, study how and when you will trade and if you use the bot you will know if it is going great that the bot is perfect. Still, I might say that "bot is great" you might want not to rely on a bot that much a bot is still a bot it can go wrong. The best thing for trading is really you when you know you win.

Answering thing even if I didn't use a bot I would say its a different experience for everyone if you saw almost majority use bot I know you will use bot and if the bot does not work for you, you might get disappointed even if you know from us that the bot is working well.


Still there a big chance of income return if you really know bitcoin trading and if not you might get disappointed but lastly I would say you will learn from your mistakes.

143  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Taking a loan to buy Bitcoin? on: February 09, 2021, 09:29:16 PM
I think what we are seeing right now is a rocket that is launching. I want to get on this rocket and I think any minute it could be too late as there is already all kind of heat shooting out of the rocket. It is hard to get on at this time. So I am considering to take out a loan of say 20.000 Euros. It wouldn't kill me if it fails but I don't think it will fail. Even if it crashes it will come back 2 or 3 years later. And yes we might eventually end up seeing prices of $100M per Bitcoin or maybe $1B. I am saying this not so much because I think Bitcoin is a great invention. I am saying it because I think the Euro and the USD are currently collapsing. Now since Elon has gotten on others will get on. And eventually the government can not make Bitcoin illegal anymore because too many people are heavily invested.

Do you think taking out a loan makes any sense? The problem is that right now I can not do it because due to the lockdown my income is too low. I would have to wait for the lockdown to end. Then I can work night and day for a month so that I end up making like $7000 within a single month. With that I will easily get a loan of 20K maybe even 50K who knows?

Do you think it is worth it? This might be a once in a lifetime chance.

Bitcoin is really worth the time. I know I don't have any reliable source for what I am going to say, Now when I was scanning through social media I found out a man did something unexpected He bought bitcoin for 1 dollar and it was the start of bitcoin like not so many people know bitcoin. Now it was the present and bitcoin was totally in almost all the country knows it he later saw that the dollar knows become his Car.


My point of saying this story Possibly, from what I know Bitcoin will not go bye-bye, as long as there are people who are interested in bitcoin will go up and up. Bitcoin is worth the time but using a loan is a 50 50 move you have the chance to win and lose plus the bank might not allow it if they did there into bitcoin and you are something different which is like your business is into trading. Bank will investigate and won't just give you a loan is a snap. 


You having the capabilities to trade will make a 100% big win out of it but if not a chance a 50 50 what if it loses what will be mind then? it is okay to imagine but when you're doing it asap or your in the situation you'll regret it when every thing does not work properly.
144  Economy / Trading Discussion / Do you need a big amount to win or invest big if your not a billionaire? on: February 09, 2021, 02:28:03 AM
These days,(or today)rich people are interested in bitcoin as they invest money of their own in bitcoin. We all know that today Elon Musk/Tesla contributed big time to fiction that played the bitcoins value and worth. 

For the people who are in the middle class,
I want to know how much did you invest in bitcoin?

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When did you start investing? How is it now?

Did you buy it for the long term? How much is it now since then?

Do you trade in a simple portion of bitcoin and the half holds for the long term? Did you do that?

Tell your situation or rather a strategy and the worth of bitcoin you got when you started investing.

Lastly, the Subject: Do you need a big amount to invest to win back bitcoin bigtime Because when a billionaire invest the price went down in a snap and today Elon Tesla bought big again the value went up.

What do you think? Do we need a big amount of investment to get a big win?
145  Other / Politics & Society / STOP! for a while, on bitcoin and the past election. Time to care of yourself on: February 09, 2021, 01:53:10 AM
Why is there no news here about any depression in this forum? Iam not into watching the news that much but sometimes here I read a few things here at the forum.

 this day I know its a common news or just nothing to make a big fuss about out of it. Voting and who won who is the most top priority this day, yes it is but if you have family and you are one of the people going out raising your voices on what you think should be the President.
Stop right there and think of your kids and your younger siblings.


Stop!, the elderly or adults these days do not take their kids o the younger ones in their family seriously. The news here is all about President Joe Biden, Trump, Bitcoin, and Covid-19, or it's just me? and my timing is off that I didn't get a chance to see any news about depression.


Anyhow, Iam Just here and wanting to share this while everyone is bothered about other topics I want to start this.



Don't forget about your loved ones especially the younger ones they might be experiencing depression or anxiety that is not normal so when they ask and you saw them crying.

 
1.Do not say it's just a normal thing in front of them it will truly affect their health mentality.

Don't say it's all in just your mind maybe yes but the way that is thinking is because of you or even way before lockdown It's because of the people around them not just because of the lockdown.

2. If you are a Christian and dont you just tell them just pray you to want to go the Church or something? it will help them 100% it's not enough they need help from a family and a professional's help especially those people who cut themself.


3. You saw her or him with a cut on their wrist don't ask or say stupid things to them it's not helping it's making me realize that no one in the family can help me.
 
I want you to Hug them or before engaging read few topics on how to engage them properly if he or she asks to be taken to a  Doctor do it don't say any more than the is negative that comes from your mind keep it, I want you to understand them.

I want you to smile and go to a Doctor with them.

4. Stop saying just go with your friend have fun, they will realize that what? my family is not helping me they just don't want friends they want a family, in reality, we all know that some friends stay some will just vanish.

As Simple as you think that is anxiety and its depression that you all think it's all in the head. Stop it way more worst.


It's way more worst when your loved one is feeling depressed before covid and it was made even worst when covid lockdown starter.



Here is some article that is worth the time to read:

"COVID-19 Q&A: Dr. Elizabeth Reichert on Depression, Anxiety, Risk for Suicide"

https://med.stanford.edu/psychiatry/about/covid19/anx.html

"For months, he helped his son keep suicidal thoughts at bay. Then came the pandemic."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/11/23/covid-pandemic-rise-suicides/



PS: Iam not promoting these websites it is the words and stories that they contain that I want to be heard and Iam here to tell you all and tell you to care for your family, not just bitcoin and who should be the President.
146  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Why does when someone bought bitcoin in a worth of...and on: February 08, 2021, 11:25:15 PM
Today I was notified I just read that there is someone who bought bitcoin worth a billion and when I saw the charts I instantly was shocked the chart for bitcoin went up.

(I read that someone bought a bitcoin and it surpasses the previews bitcoin holder that was said from my application that I been using and it was just a pop up so I did not get the chance to see it whole news and Iam still confused about how the application works.)

Who bought a billion worth of bitcoin that made bitcoin snap up? still, I know I should search the web for that I made a research and it was tesla who is owned by Elon Musk I was confused because I know he bought a billion this January 2021, and today I read an article that's about Telsa bought bitcoin that I think was the cause (I just read the headline because the article needed a login plus I don't want to for safety porpuses and it was only the one article for 2021 this month)

PS: Enlighten who bought bitcoin this month? I just want to confirm I am not the kind of person who is into getting a reliable source of news and I don't watch Television that much these days that is why I made searched on the web but it's not good enough for me.


Follow up Question:

I am still learning again been gone for a long time and Iam just into bitcoin again for 2 months so don't be like your a senior you should know this answer, please be kind.

Why did bitcoin go up in a snap when someone bought a bitcoin value this week?
and at the same time, why did bitcoin value go down in a snap when someone bought a bitcoin in the worth of billionths January?. is there a big reason, or it's just the demand and supply for the reason the value of bitcoin goes up and down?
147  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading bot vs. you -> who's better? on: February 05, 2021, 06:21:30 PM
I did not use any kind of bot or application that can guide me to trading for the better. but I already gain that gain is enough I once did trading and hold it for a long time and made a good amount out of it.

From reading that previews reply and reading articles of bots handling trading I would still be at the decision of 90% don't use it or rather do not rely on the bot you should really study and 10% yes it can help you but not as good as you if you did how trading works. Even if read a positive comment or reviews on different articles here on the internet.

Stil if you made the decision to use a bot then I would say trade the amount you are ready to lose not the amount that you want to gain profit from the decision on trading big and giving all to the bot is a risk from what I see. Plus, today I don't really use this kind of things application or bot that could help you I want to know about more positive outcomes.



148  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin Crash? on: February 05, 2021, 05:34:10 PM
Bitcoin has been around for quite some time, since 2009 to be exact - but it is only over the past few years that it has garnered the attention it deserves.

The media and critics are always quick to jump on any movement Bitcoin occurs, but can Bitcoin actually crash?

Take a look at this article, its summed up quite nicely: https://4king.com/can-bitcoin-crash/

As for anything that can be possible, for now, it cant happen bitcoin won't even if critics might guess that bitcoin might hit its zero value.  

 I only see that if that happens bitcoin may crash for a possible reason

1. People stop investing in bitcoin because they might saw other better alternatives to invest in.
From what I see it won't happen for now.

2. There is a certain virus that crushed cryptocurrency.
Well, we all know a virus is a virus lest just say a certain malware of what that is powerful enough to kill the road that bitcoin is walking.

3. Maybe there was a miracle that all people who invest in bitcoin and all at once sell their bitcoin.
As we know the movement of bitcoins value depends on the investors.




149  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How many of you use "Crypto Prediction Applications" for trading? on: February 03, 2021, 11:41:31 PM
How many of you use "Crypto Prediction Applications" for trading?

You see, for the past few days I've being trying out some of "crypto prediction apps" but I haven't been lucky. It would be enlightening to know the percentage of other traders who use prediction apps.

And if you do, could you please tell me which prediction apps are best in the market?
Thanks.

Viketo Sumi (Armani123)

1. Prediction is just a prediction it can help you and maybe not? The next thing you could do if you use prediction apps.

2. Use another individual app that can alert you to the value or price of bitcoin.

3. Next is I will enlighten you on that part THAT the most reliable source you can say will be yourself studying how it goes up and down will help you but remember if you made a mistake don't stop from that you will see what went wrong.


studying can be useful when some bought a billion amount of bitcoin it will affect the price within a minute.


An application that predicts will help you but on the other hand on that part like I always said that whoever buys bitcoin a million or billion dollars will not help you.
 
You see something in the ad don't believe it will help you sometimes when I talk about trading an ad pops up to me saying that I could copy others trading strategy acting that it helps one other user but in reality, there is a chance of 70% if you don't study and just rely on that prediction app.

I don't know if you will believe me cause if you can figure out from what I have said that I don't use any other trading app cause from the very beginning that I joined bitcoin I learn to read.


i used a crypto prediction app, but it was not accurate for our results. for me the best thing is to keep the analysis yourself manually and determine the price prediction based on the time period. so if you only use the application I don't think it can fulfill our desires to the fullest


I Agree, with this if say I saw that for the year 2021 the price of bitcoin will be a hundred thousand but it doesn't because we have a so-called correction plus the thing that I said already said at the beginning.
150  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can play tricks on your mind on: February 03, 2021, 07:50:48 PM
I don't know if it's just me or maybe every person who is a beginner can be tricked or rather can lose to bitcoin when they first got their hands on them. Bitcoin is a gamble as every stock is there is a win and lose situation. 
 
you really just need to learn from that so-called mind trick, when you learn and gain there you will see what you did wrong and right to earn. From the topic, you post you should really know and set things up let's say if that 25% gain of your you should know when you will sell, I know it's hard to think that the BTC price might go up and up. 

If Bitcoin price goes up and up will you wait and see? when happens? the effort you made or rather the long term hold will be all at waste if you don't want to sell it. I would suggest that 25% gained more than 25% so an equal of 50% price gain stops if your time is up. BItcoin is tricky I anything can happen to its value why? There are people who have a big amount of money in their hands those people like Elon Musk if he sells it and buys the bitcoin's worth will make a big big change.


As others might have suggested you should set a goal and stop playing think smart play smart.


I think the point is precisely that risky stocks and sports games are short-term investments. Literally 2-3 days and you already know the result and understand that you have gained profit or lost investments. With such a long-term investment in bitcoin or other alt's, there are always some thoughts that have never visited you before. I also had it with a lot of cryptocurrencies. I no longer take them into account and just keep the coins. If they rise in price then I am rich, and if not, then it does not matter.

Also, Short term investment is really hard you really need to focus as well as if it trading 24hrs on guard is a must. 




151  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Trading bitcoin on: February 03, 2021, 12:30:24 AM
From trading to buying bitcoin on a short-term and long-term trading day by day is the number one option you can earn more as it is highly-recommended that understanding how to trade is a must. You can also do it for an experience for the first time but make sure you know how trading works.

You have those trading applications still, yet if you don't have any knowledge your trading will be at risk, and in that process, you can learn at least you have experience.

Plus, trading per minute was said to be the best option rather than holding for a long term but Iam the person who holds it long-term, and I tried day by day trading but it did not work for me I was busy and doing other sorts of stuff.

Upon my observation, as I guess, they were a few big companies and known people who saw bitcoin that possibly invest bit by bit and later on. The "later on that Iam talking about this year bitcoin even when I stopped I always look on the bitcoins price value as this January was a move, going up and down within minutes or half an hour based on what I could remember. 


Cryptocurrencies are supposed to be currencies for daily use. Its use for investment should be in a narrow range, and it is the money that you are not afraid of losing, and it is not a fund in which you can enter a few currencies and inflate those currencies to infinity.

some models like bitcoin have too many future and still newbie so it will be good investment for long term investing.

Trading is really a big move and a big chance you can lose even if there is a correction you the price value for bitcoins worth is on us when it moves up and down.

152  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: February 01, 2021, 11:20:43 PM
I have heard a lot of opinions ... many are pro vaccine but also many are against it ...
And some don't even believe there is a real vaccine ... What about you ?

I would say, I don't for now why? for everything and everyone is taking flights airports are running people will come and go from different countries. Airport owners do not care about Covid or the virus as long as they earn money. The Government does not take any action for the taxes they get from a company is a big one.

That is the only thing I see wrong in the different countries that they might have testing kits. Sadly, it was said that even if you are positive the chances are still not positive and the word was covid can be undetectable until your feeling becomes severe. Sometimes with the help of the testing kit, it can and really can't identify.

Plus we people, are the problem, not just the Government.

In my country, I read that my fellow men are shaming and bullying Chinese people because we all know that Covid came from China. Iam not pointing out Chinese people. People who shame them did the wrong thing because every bad thing we do you will get karma or rather everything will bounce back to you negatively.

Some, just want to enjoy that people who are flying over different countries are a big problem, you all know what I mean. Covid is a virus you can catch it anywhere even if you are in a safety protocol.


I know staying in a house of yours, might bore you but at least your safe.
153  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How many of you use "Crypto Prediction Applications" for trading? on: February 01, 2021, 10:51:16 PM
One thing I have to learn here while I was going back and learning everything again that prediction is just a prediction. Why?
The possibilities can be 50% correct and 50% wrong.


In December 2020. I was searching for the 2021 value for bitcoin      
(the prediction) is written that the amount for bitcoin value can go up for a worth of 50,0000 USD, sadly it changed the said prediction was incorrect. Why?

The market value needs a correction also the possible reason is a person who can buy and sell a big amount of bitcoin for a worth million and a billion dollars, that will make a change from the said: "predicted value"


As every people said, reading and learning is the number one source and 100 % accurate answer.  From my experience,  BY DOING WHAT YOU WANT, by doing what you thought might be right or better and ending up the sad way. There you can understand the subject more, on how everything works.

By reading this, I got the idea you might have gotten the ad for an application that helps you copy another person's trading strategy. I would say don't, even did not get to try those when I start doing and understanding trading bitcoin everyone suggested is to read and learn.

Now I would say if you think that you can use it or it can help and try it because your action will let you identify if you can use this app or not. In the end, you can learn what you did wrong.
154  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to take BITCOIN profit without selling? on: February 01, 2021, 10:00:55 PM
Hi Friends,

I hope you all are enjoying the BTC ride  Cheesy

in Some youtube videos I heard some analysts talk about taking profits in bitcoin without selling bitcoin.  some of them even said that they doubled their Bitcoin amount in this bullrun. They don't explain how exactly to do that.

I tried to research and can't find any way to do that in any of the exchanges I use such as kraken, bittrex or coinbase.

 The only way I know of,  to take profit of bitcoin bull run is to sell some bitcoin which means the bitcoin holding will reduce.

So, I am just wondering is it really possible to take profit without reducing bitcoin holding?  Am I missing something here?

Thanks Smiley

I agree with what have others said you can't get a profit without selling because that is how the trading world in bitcoin or stock price exchange works.

When it comes to reading a lot of articles, it is really important. So, you can identify the wrong and right information and as others have already posted do not believe anything on what people post (number one is videos).

The articles the one thing that is reliable for me and reading a lot and asking real veterans here in the forum for many have possibly posted fake information because they can make a big profit out of it and the number one is youtube.

You did a good job asking and confirming were droughts about that issue.

I may have the answer to that but just an idea. So found some people who bought bitcoin again without selling? the possible reason that I saw is this person the timing was right for this person when bitcoin value was at their peak of getting high this December.

The percentage the number, (for December 2020)the value was on a lowest peek and later on this January 2021 the highest was 40.0000 USD.

In the middle of that this person might have bought a bitcoin and when bitcoin reaches its highest point, you can really have a great profit out of buying more without selling bitcoin the more you have bitcoin the prices increase more when bitcoin value increase. 

This person possibly has already had an idea or this person might have believed in the prediction for January 2020 and made a gamble of buying.
155  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is an investment on: February 01, 2021, 04:56:53 AM
Yes, Bitcoin is a total investment it was said the market for today's bitcoin is going up I would suggest IF the price hits 19k again,  do bitcoin harming but if does not hit 19k in a few months or 20+ maybe a long term investment would be good if you're not into trading.

Here's a scenario where I think I can explain better rather than the first words/phrases I said.

1. In trading you really need to learn, if you are one of the people who want to earn and learn in a small way trading is the best option.

2. but if you have the money to go in for bitcoin farming why? yes, it expensive but for normal people or rather miners, I would calculate from the year 2017 to present 2021 you could have possibly earned 2000 USD to 4000 USD. buying big equipment for mining a worth of investment. later on from the 2000 or 4000 USD, you can possibly get what you need and want. Let's say 2 GPUs would be enough for the worth of money I mentioned.


Still, mining and trading depend on the market so from what I saw you need to gamble and have faith(with knowledge Smiley) and one thing for sure bitcoin is a real investment.

156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] Swaap | 6000 SAPG ($60,000) TO SHARE | 8 WEEKS | on: January 26, 2021, 01:17:33 PM

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160  Economy / Speculation / You saw the BTC price WOULD YOU BUY!?............ on: January 09, 2021, 06:53:50 AM
You saw the BTC price this month increase, would you buy it and hold it for a long time? been hesitating when I want to buy  BTC today but before that.
I want to read opinions from you all if it is okay?


I hope you are an expert and doing this for a long time what would you say? buy? or not? also,

 I already have BTC (just sharing).


PS: Don't judge me I stopped reading BTC and trading articles or pieces of information for almost years I only came back this December.
Till now I am learning again (will not stop) and want to ask you people who are none stop doing trading and buying bitcoin.


I have been giving opinions when it comes to selling or buying but when that time comes that is today I am going to buy it now I been hesitating.


So, I heard from one friend that it is a wrong decision when you people buy rising stocks value most likely to go down, is it different from bitcoin? is it right or wrong? I also made research but it's the opposite. Hope to get answers from real users because some websites I read also have comments but I don't trust it, it might be a bot or a scam.

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