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March 28, 2015, 01:13:48 AM
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Hi,

Someone asked me some very simple questions regarding Blockchain, and I couldn't gave good answer. Lacking some info and knowledge to compare.

1. How Blockchain (DAOs, Smart Contracts) and Watson are different?
My answer:
I haven't much read about Watson in detail, but isn't watson controlled centrally? means by one organization on few super computers?
If so, Blockchain is not controlled by anyone.
It's not even needing super computers.
It just needs a small power computer, and it's decentralized.

2. Well both need computers (super means better cpus, memory, etc). Blockchain is possible because it uses many computers around the world, isn't it?
i am trying to understand how this technology is different from others.

3. He recommend me to try and give some examples as to how this technology will be used in a future society so we understand its benefits
and why decentralized is better (or not)

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March 28, 2015, 01:25:05 AM
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A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash allows online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a
financial institution. Digital signatures provide part of the solution, but the main benefits are lost if a trusted third party is still required to prevent double-spending. Bitcoin proposes a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer network. The network orders transactions by hashing them into an ongoing chain of
hash-based proof-of-work, forming a record that cannot be changed without redoing the proof-of-work. The longest chain not only serves as proof of the sequence of
events witnessed, but proof that it came from the largest pool of CPU power. As long as a majority of CPU power is controlled by nodes that are not cooperating to attack the network, they'll generate the longest chain and outpace attackers. The network itself requires minimal structure. Messages are broadcast on a best effort basis, and nodes can leave and rejoin the network at will, accepting the longest proof-of-work chain as proof of what happened while they were gone

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Commerce on the Internet has come to rely almost exclusively on financial institutions serving as trusted third parties to process electronic payments. While the system works well enough for most transactions, it still suffers from the inherent weaknesses of the trust based model. Completely non-reversible transactions are not really possible, since financial institutions cannot avoid mediating disputes. The cost of mediation increases transaction costs, limiting the minimum practical transaction size and cutting off the possibility for small casual transactions, and there is a broader cost in the loss of ability to make non-reversible payments for non-reversible services. With the possibility of reversal, the need for trust spreads. Merchants must be wary of their customers, hassling them for more information than they would otherwise need. A certain percentage of fraud is accepted as unavoidable. These costs and payment uncertainties can be avoided in person by using physical currency, but no mechanism exists to make payments over a communications channel without a trusted party.

What is needed is an electronic payment system based on cryptographic proof instead of trust, allowing any two willing parties to transact directly with each other without the need for a trusted third party. Transactions that are computationally impractical to reverse would protect sellers from fraud, and routine escrow mechanisms could easily be implemented to protect buyers. Bitcoin proposes a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer distributed timestamp server to generate computational proof of the chronological order of transactions. The system is secure as long as honest nodes collectively control more CPU power than any cooperating group of attacker nodes.
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March 28, 2015, 01:36:05 AM
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The questions are more of concerning DAOs and Watson. Like Watson AI can play a role to control and self govern everything, DAOs can do the same.
I need to clear that part.

How Blockchain, DAOs are different to Watson technology? Both need CPU, Memory etc, then how they are different to each other? And why decentralized is better or not?

These questions are not concerning Monetary system, but technical differentiation of two different technologies. Comparing where they do the same things and where they do the different. Again, not regarding Money or Bitcoin.

Thanks again for your input.

Cheers! Smiley

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March 28, 2015, 01:47:04 AM
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The questions are more of concerning DAOs and Watson. Like Watson AI can play a role to control and self govern everything, DAOs can do the same.
I need to clear that part.

How Blockchain, DAOs are different to Watson technology? Both need CPU, Memory etc, then how they are different to each other? And why decentralized is better or not?

These questions are not concerning Monetary system, but technical differentiation of two different technologies. Comparing where they do the same things and where they do the different. Again, not regarding Money or Bitcoin.

Thanks again for your input.

Cheers! Smiley

Watson?  You mean the artificially intelligent computer system capable of answering questions posed in natural language?

One technology (blockchain) is a simple and effective method of forming a consensus on order of events across a distributed network of peers that don't all have the same interests and which may not have all encountered the events in the same order.

The other technology (Watson) is a complex method of interpreting natural language input and generating useful responses.

They serve completely different purposes.

It's a bit like asking how a house is different from a table (since they both need wood, nails, paint, etc).
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March 28, 2015, 01:52:50 AM
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...decentralized is better?
Decentralized is better since there is no single point of control which can be exploited by people with the money and power to access the controls.

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March 28, 2015, 04:14:54 AM
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The questions are more of concerning DAOs and Watson. Like Watson AI can play a role to control and self govern everything, DAOs can do the same.
I need to clear that part.

How Blockchain, DAOs are different to Watson technology? Both need CPU, Memory etc, then how they are different to each other? And why decentralized is better or not?

These questions are not concerning Monetary system, but technical differentiation of two different technologies. Comparing where they do the same things and where they do the different. Again, not regarding Money or Bitcoin.

Thanks again for your input.

Cheers! Smiley

Watson?  You mean the artificially intelligent computer system capable of answering questions posed in natural language?

One technology (blockchain) is a simple and effective method of forming a consensus on order of events across a distributed network of peers that don't all have the same interests and which may not have all encountered the events in the same order.

The other technology (Watson) is a complex method of interpreting natural language input and generating useful responses.

They serve completely different purposes.

It's a bit like asking how a house is different from a table (since they both need wood, nails, paint, etc).

Yes, same Watson AI.

You mean to say Watson's AI, in combination with Wolfram Language, Quantum Computers etc can no make self governing system to manage whole system which manages earth?

These questions are not from the perspective of Monetary System where system runs with Money.

Ever heard of Resource Based Economy (RBE)? These questions are in relation to that. System runs on the bases of available resources instead of available Money which has no value in true manner.

If I think from RBE's perspective as that person asked me having or not having decentralized system won't matter, because it will only be a matter to manage the system, which can also be done with existing technology and advancing it further.

Decentralization only needed because in Monetary System people do not trust each other. Decentralization gave the power to trust the system, instead of trusting people. In RBE's term trust isn't issue.

I also know that talking RBE where Monetary System is the greatest thing ever is in vain. I can not expect answers in comparison to RBE here. But, still tried. Smiley

Cheers! Wink

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