If Spain crumbles...

[Lenore]

I guess Spain won be Spain any ore will it.  Wonder who will take it over and what the new name will be?

Spain will remain as Spain and Spanish will remain as the official language. If you look closely, most of the rebellious regions are having their own languages and customs, and they don't want their lives to be dominated by the Spanish. For example, Catalonia has the Catalan and Aranese languages, Asturia has the Asturian language, Galicia has Galician, Basque has Euskara, Valencia has Valencian, and the other regions have languages such as Aragonese, Leonese, Cantabrian, Extremaduran.etc. Once these regions break away, only the Spanish speaking regions will be left with Spain.

Makes sense.   I know a few people from spain and they mentioned the same thing to me before.   It will always stay the same.   More then likely anyways.

[Gronthaing]

Don't think it matters what the spanish constitution says. Not when you have millions on the street on a region with 7.5 million people. But I don't know if they will be allowed to remain in the eu. The region is pro europe and doing well economically. So the eu may want to keep them in somehow. But that would be an exception. And could cause other regions to get more support for doing the same. And spain will probably try to prevent it. Look at their position on kosovo for example.

So a part of a nation wants something really bad, the laws get disregarded?

Laws have no meaning if there is no one following them. And societies change. So must laws if they are to stay relevant.

I'm pretty sure that it is not as simple as that. Even though the odds are that Catalonia might separate itself from Spain, this will probably be a very complex process and will carry a lot of problems with it. I've only been in Catalonia when it comes to Spain (last year) and they were rallying for the separation even then. It looks like the people really want this to happen.

Never said it was going to be a simple process. If you read all my post before commenting you would have seen that.

[countryfree]

I guess Spain won be Spain any ore will it.  Wonder who will take it over and what the new name will be?

Spain will remain as Spain and Spanish will remain as the official language. If you look closely, most of the rebellious regions are having their own languages and customs, and they don't want their lives to be dominated by the Spanish. For example, Catalonia has the Catalan and Aranese languages, Asturia has the Asturian language, Galicia has Galician, Basque has Euskara, Valencia has Valencian, and the other regions have languages such as Aragonese, Leonese, Cantabrian, Extremaduran.etc. Once these regions break away, only the Spanish speaking regions will be left with Spain.

Makes sense.   I know a few people from spain and they mentioned the same thing to me before.   It will always stay the same.   More then likely anyways.

Let's not exaggerate, there are only 3 languages actually spoken by a sizable number of people in Spain. Catalan, Galician and Spanish. Valencian? That's another name for Catalan. It's the same language.

Some Catalans go as far as saying that Spanish doesn't exist, that this language is actually Castillian, but even Catalan nationalists speak some Spanish. They say one sentence in Catalan and the following one in Spanish.

[BADecker]

Everything is based on strength. If the Catalonians are stronger legally, or sufficiently strong physically, there will be change. It will be based on compromise.

The point is, governments are changing because the crooks in government are making mistakes that are harming the people.

I foresee and expect a banking collapse, which will bring on a governmental collapse, worldwide. The face of the world will change. It won't only be Spain.

Right now, there are States in the USA that are looking at the idea of secession. Texas is one of them. And it is built right into the contract Texas has with the U.S.  They can legally pull out if they want.

Government speeches, and the media, are full of propaganda designed to weaken the thinking of people who seem to be determined.

[bryant.coleman]

Let's not exaggerate, there are only 3 languages actually spoken by a sizable number of people in Spain. Catalan, Galician and Spanish. Valencian? That's another name for Catalan. It's the same language.

So according to you, the Basque language (Euskara) doesn't exist? The discrimination over language use has been sighted as one of the preliminary reasons for the violent secessionist activity in that region. Languages such as Extremaduran and Asturian are now spoken only by small minorities, but they are gaining popularity as the ethnic revival sets in.

[countryfree]

Let's not exaggerate, there are only 3 languages actually spoken by a sizable number of people in Spain. Catalan, Galician and Spanish. Valencian? That's another name for Catalan. It's the same language.

So according to you, the Basque language (Euskara) doesn't exist? The discrimination over language use has been sighted as one of the preliminary reasons for the violent secessionist activity in that region. Languages such as Extremaduran and Asturian are now spoken only by small minorities, but they are gaining popularity as the ethnic revival sets in.

I HAVEN'T said that the Basque language doesn't exist. Only that there are very few people actually speaking it. Same goes for Asturian and the other regional languages. The ethnic revival isn't important. What drives people to wear "República Catalana" T-shirts in Barcelona is selfishness. They say they are the most successful Spaniards and that they should not pay for the laggards in the South.