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June 23, 2017, 01:54:36 PM |
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I guess the timing of this thread wasn't ideal, since any further additions would likely be influenced by the unprecedented (and rather spectacular) shift in mining support towards a certain proposal, potentially skewing the results. It's not yet a foregone conclusion, though. Plus it's still interesting to compare everyone's preferences. So I hope people don't lose interest in the idea. I'm still paying attention and will continue to update the list as necessary. good to see an implementation finally showing the main block size increase... and with a ~3 month from now activation.
Now that you've taken another look at it, did you still want to declare "weak" for SegWit2x, or should I amend that?
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June 23, 2017, 02:53:15 PM Last edit: June 29, 2017, 02:59:43 PM by franky1 |
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having to lower my standards... franky1 | Weak | no | no | Better than nothin | Weak | acceptable | prefer | no |
[tr] [td]franky1 [/td] [td][glow=red,2,300]Weak[/glow][/td] [td][glow=red,2,300]no[/glow][/td] [td][glow=red,2,300]no[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#00BB44,2,100]Better than nothin[/glow][/td] [td][glow=cyan,2,100]Weak[/glow][/td] [td][glow=yellow,2,300]acceptable[/glow][/td] [td][glow=yellow,2,300]prefer[/glow][/td] [td][glow=red,2,300]no[/glow][/td] [/tr] even though i reduced my standards.. its just the cludginess of the bips related to segwit.. the empty promises/ half gestures.. and still reliance of devs controlling when the next blocksize increase occurs (meaning endless debates lasting a couple years) its like they offer you a spoon of sugar but then put a fly on top
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| BIP141 SegWit | BIP148 UASF | BIP149 Timeout | SegWit2x / New York Agreement | Extension Blocks | SegWit Adaptive | Emergent Consensus | Bitmaincoin | sgbett | No | No | No | Weak. | Deficient | No | Bitcoin. | Also Bitcoin. |
[tr] [td]sgbett[/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]No[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]No[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]No[/glow][/td] [td][glow=cyan,2,100]Weak.[/glow][/td] [td][glow=yellow,2,300]Deficient[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]No[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#00FF66,2,300]Bitcoin.[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#00FF66,2,300]Also Bitcoin.[/glow][/td] [/tr]
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June 29, 2017, 02:48:51 PM |
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That's a good idea. It'll give an idea of the position of everyone mainpmf | Prefer | Acceptable | NODON'TDOTHAT | Acceptable | no | No | NO | NO WAY |
[tr] [td]mainpmf[/td] [td][glow=#00FF66,2,300]Prefer[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#00BB44,2,100]Acceptable[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]NODON'TDOTHAT[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#00BB44,2,300]Acceptable[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]no[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]No[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]NO[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]NO WAY[/glow][/td] [/tr]
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June 30, 2017, 04:07:55 PM Last edit: July 04, 2017, 10:48:57 PM by ibminer |
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| BIP141 SegWit | | BIP148 UASF | | BIP149 Timeout | | SegWit2x / New York Agreement | | Extension Blocks | | SegWit Adaptive | | Emergent Consensus | | Bitmaincoin | ibminer | Prefer | No | No | NO! | Deficient | Weak | NO! | NO! |
[tr] [td]ibminer[/td] [td][glow=#00FF66,2,300]Prefer[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]No[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]No[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]NO![/glow][/td] [td][glow=yellow,2,300]Deficient[/glow][/td] [td][glow=cyan,2,100]Weak[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]NO![/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]NO![/glow][/td] [/tr]
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July 04, 2017, 09:30:55 AM |
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Oddly enough, there have not been a lot of people posting their preferences. I doubt that it is because they do not "care". I think that the main issue here is that, one side is spreading a lot of misinformation (both do, but one does a lot more than the other). I often get questions, or even paid consulting jobs where people want explanations for all of these proposals/terms. | BIP141 SegWit | BIP148 UASF | BIP149 Timeout | SegWit2x / New York Agreement | Extension Blocks | SegWit Adaptive | Emergent Consensus | Bitmaincoin | sgbett | No | No | No | Weak. | Deficient | No | Bitcoin. | Also Bitcoin. |
Are you brain dead? Something that is privately mined for 72 hours by a single company, then released into the *wild* is NOT Bitcoin.
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July 04, 2017, 10:27:32 AM |
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SpartacusRex | Prefer | Acceptable | Acceptable | Acceptable | LOL | LOL | LOL | ForkYourMotherIfYouWantFork |
[tr] [td]SpartacusRex[/td] [td][glow=#00FF66,2,300]Prefer[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#00BB44,2,100]Acceptable[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#00BB44,2,100]Acceptable[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#00BB44,2,100]Acceptable[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]LOL[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]LOL[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]LOL[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]ForkYourMotherIfYouWantFork[/glow][/td] [/tr]
Oooooo.. this is a very funky topic DoomMAD. Thanks.
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July 07, 2017, 03:04:18 PM |
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| BIP141 SegWit | BIP148 UASF | BIP149 Timeout | SegWit2x / New York Agreement | Extension Blocks | SegWit Adaptive | Emergent Consensus | Bitmaincoin | hv_ | NotSN | NotSN | NotSN | Compromis | beFree | No | Bitcoin | SN_Bitcoin |
[tr] [td]hv_[/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]NotSN[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]NotSN[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]NotSN[/glow][/td] [td][glow=cyan,2,100]Compromis[/glow][/td] [td][glow=yellow,2,300]beFree[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]No[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#00FF66,2,300]Bitcoin[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#00FF66,2,300]SN_Bitcoin[/glow][/td] [/tr]
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| BIP141 SegWit | BIP148 UASF | BIP149 Timeout | SegWit2x / New York Agreement | Extension Blocks | SegWit Adaptive | Emergent Consensus | Bitmaincoin | hv_ | NotSN | NotSN | NotSN | Compromis | beFree | No | Bitcoin | SN_Bitcoin |
The following applies to you too, idiot: Are you brain dead? Something that is privately mined for 72 hours by a single company, then released into the *wild* is NOT Bitcoin.
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July 07, 2017, 04:26:46 PM Last edit: July 07, 2017, 04:54:13 PM by hv_ |
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| BIP141 SegWit | BIP148 UASF | BIP149 Timeout | SegWit2x / New York Agreement | Extension Blocks | SegWit Adaptive | Emergent Consensus | Bitmaincoin | hv_ | NotSN | NotSN | NotSN | Compromis | beFree | No | Bitcoin | SN_Bitcoin |
The following applies to you too, idiot: Are you brain dead? Something that is privately mined for 72 hours by a single company, then released into the *wild* is NOT Bitcoin.
Why? If its due to the SN white paper? Where is the issue? If you would write a proper white paper on SW we all can do a nice diff and see that SW is an alt, not the others with just a 2mb change. With SW you softly fork into a softer security model. Your SW coin will be of soft price. Thx
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July 07, 2017, 05:48:44 PM |
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Are you brain dead? Something that is privately mined for 72 hours by a single company, then released into the *wild* is NOT Bitcoin.
I guess Carlton was right when he questioned whether excluding users with low ranks and/or negative feedback would produce the results you would expect or not. I figured we might see a few "prefer"s for EC, but I wasn't really expecting much in the way of Bitmaincoin support. Still, I suppose the community is littered with altcoins that had a significant premine, so I guess some don't feel as strongly about it as others.
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July 07, 2017, 05:51:02 PM |
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Why? If its due to the SN white paper? Where is the issue?
If you think that the definition of Bitcoin is literally only "the longest PoW chain" then you fundamentally understood nothing from the whitepaper. Stop falsely quoting Satoshi. If you would write a proper white paper on SW we all can do a nice diff and see that SW is an alt, not the others with just a 2mb change.
You are either ill or a government/corporate/institute/agency paid baboon. Nobody in their right mind could think that a privately mined chain, which alters consensus rules without anyone elsees consent is Bitcoin. With SW you softly fork into a softer security model. Your SW coin will be of soft price. Thx
No. I guess Carlton was right when he questioned whether excluding users with low ranks and/or negative feedback would produce the results you would expect or not. I figured we might see a few "prefer"s for EC, but I wasn't really expecting much in the way of Bitmaincoin support. I don't mind lowly educated individuals to vote for EC, but BitmainCoin is everything but Bitcoin. Still, I suppose the community is littered with altcoins that had a significant premine, so I guess some don't feel as strongly about it as others.
The right wording is "individuals who are solely fueled by greed and do not have/care for any fundamental values".
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July 07, 2017, 06:17:38 PM |
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This will end up just like I predicted. 2 and maybe even more versions of bitcoin will exist and every bitcoin fork will claim that theirs is the tr00 bitcoin. Well that just has to happen I guess and there is nothing to do to prevent it. The merchants and the community will have different opinions too. Merchant A will say "I only accept bitcoin bipXXX" and Merchant B will say "I only accept 8mb Bitcoin" There will be countless versions of bitcoins. The majority chain won't always get the 100% support. Once we get into the Hard Fork business there will be no end to it.
Yes! And they are already among us...! Dozens of them, even hundreds... For years, actually... We call them 'altcoins'... And which bitcoin fork will be "altcoins"? No altcoin ever claimed that it was the real bitcoin. Would you support it if zcash changed its name into bitcoin? Because that's exactly what is going to happen with bitcoin. Bitcoin.org and Bitcoin.com will be promoting completely different blockchains. When somebody goes to an exchange to buy some bitcoins he'll be offered bitcoin bip148, bitcoin unlimited, bitcoin classic, bitcoin bip xxx and so on... And what about the merchants? How the hell people will be able to spend their coins to buy stuff then? Merchants will say "Fuck this shiet i'm out!"
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Why? If its due to the SN white paper? Where is the issue?
If you think that the definition of Bitcoin is literally only "the longest PoW chain" then you fundamentally understood nothing from the whitepaper. Stop falsely quoting Satoshi. If you would write a proper white paper on SW we all can do a nice diff and see that SW is an alt, not the others with just a 2mb change.
You are either ill or a government/corporate/institute/agency paid baboon. Nobody in their right mind could think that a privately mined chain, which alters consensus rules without anyone elsees consent is Bitcoin. With SW you softly fork into a softer security model. Your SW coin will be of soft price. Thx
No. I guess Carlton was right when he questioned whether excluding users with low ranks and/or negative feedback would produce the results you would expect or not. I figured we might see a few "prefer"s for EC, but I wasn't really expecting much in the way of Bitmaincoin support. I don't mind lowly educated individuals to vote for EC, but BitmainCoin is everything but Bitcoin. Still, I suppose the community is littered with altcoins that had a significant premine, so I guess some don't feel as strongly about it as others.
The right wording is "individuals who are solely fueled by greed and do not have/care for any fundamental values". Sigh.. Ranting, insulting, twisting, BSshilling. Cant fix that. Take Carlton into your SWcoin and fork off.
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July 08, 2017, 07:35:35 AM |
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This will end up just like I predicted.
2 and maybe even more versions of bitcoin will exist and every bitcoin fork will claim that theirs is the tr00 bitcoin. Well that just has to happen I guess and there is nothing to do to prevent it.
Neither Jihan nor BU coin are Bitcoin in any way possible. Claiming that they are something which they clearly are not will not work as long as there are a lot of people on the *other side* of things. Sigh.. Ranting, insulting, twisting, BSshilling. Cant fix that. Take Carlton into your SWcoin and fork off.
Bullshit. Read the whitepaper and try to actually understand it, idiot.
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July 08, 2017, 08:12:41 AM |
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I suppose I should get in on this, just to show I care. | BIP141 | BIP148 | BIP149 | SegWit2x | Extension Blocks | SegWit Adaptive/BIP106 | BU/EC | Bitmaincoin | Foxpup | Prefer | Deficient | Acceptable | No | No | No | ROFL | OMGWTFBBQ |
[tr] [td]Foxpup[/td] [td][glow=#00FF66,2,300]Prefer[/glow][/td] [td][glow=yellow,2,300]Deficient[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#00BB44,2,100]Acceptable[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]No[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]No[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]No[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]ROFL[/glow][/td] [td][glow=#FF4444,2,300]OMGWTFBBQ[/glow][/td] [/tr]
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I strongly agree there is a support proposal but I will not know when the proposal will be made ,, hopefully there will be no obstacles.
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