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September 09, 2017, 04:22:48 PM
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The fork with the best development support is the most likely one to succeed long term.

This is also why ETC is inferior to ETH. ETH has the better dev team.

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September 09, 2017, 04:23:38 PM
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What does this actually mean, when Ethereum get forked? Does Ethereum holders than have another Ethereum classic kind of coin in parallel to the Ethereum they are already holding. So similar to BTC and BCC? And how would this one be called?
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September 09, 2017, 04:26:46 PM
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What does this actually mean, when Ethereum get forked? Does Ethereum holders than have another Ethereum classic kind of coin in parallel to the Ethereum they are already holding. So similar to BTC and BCC? And how would this one be called?

Ethereum has to fork sometime in order to get rid of PoW and just function under PoS.. this means that the early adopters (basically the devs...) will have even more deciding power no the system because as far as I know the Ethereum distribution sucked, so PoS will make it worse.

Ironically, it may actually pump pre-hardfork because some people like to buy whatever token is about to hardfork in order to receive the token on the other chain after the split.
Of course all hardforks tend to cause disruption and a followed crash so im not saying it's a good idea for you to go buy ETH before the crash unless you like risk and manage to time things right.
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September 09, 2017, 05:37:01 PM
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The fork with the best development support is the most likely one to succeed long term.

This is also why ETC is inferior to ETH. ETH has the better dev team.

What makes you so sure that all the development teams that currently work on Ethereum-based
projects will continue working on them? Many of them were originally developing Bitcoin-based applications
and switched to Ethereum, because of several reasons (e.g. the stalling of BTC development due to issues
like the scaling debate).

I see a highly likely scenario that a promising new coin/network that is much more advanced than Ethereum
will be developed in 1-2 years that will attract a lot of the development talent that currently
works on Ethereum-based projects.
Most developers go to the coin/protocol that offers the biggest possibilities and the biggest hype (and probably
also the most money).



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September 09, 2017, 07:09:15 PM
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The fork with the best development support is the most likely one to succeed long term.

This is also why ETC is inferior to ETH. ETH has the better dev team.

What makes you so sure that all the development teams that currently work on Ethereum-based
projects will continue working on them? Many of them were originally developing Bitcoin-based applications
and switched to Ethereum, because of several reasons (e.g. the stalling of BTC development due to issues
like the scaling debate).

I see a highly likely scenario that a promising new coin/network that is much more advanced than Ethereum
will be developed in 1-2 years that will attract a lot of the development talent that currently
works on Ethereum-based projects.
Most developers go to the coin/protocol that offers the biggest possibilities and the biggest hype (and probably
also the most money).





My argument was framed only within ETH forks.
But I absolutely agree that a more scalable platform is most likely going to replace current ones.
One of them for example is the one I am working on.

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September 09, 2017, 08:15:26 PM
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Should we then quickly buy Ethereum, to gain the new ETH or is it to late? Thaught, hard fork will come in October.
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September 09, 2017, 09:13:47 PM
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Should we then quickly buy Ethereum, to gain the new ETH or is it to late? Thaught, hard fork will come in October.


Lmao, its a bit late at this point.

Short term technical analysis tends to be more reliable than fundamentals.

Fundamentals are applicable long term.

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September 09, 2017, 11:17:29 PM
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So Metropolis Byzantium update  might go live next month and as a prep, some Chinese miners/investors are forcing a possible sudden ETH hard fork, possibly as early as today. 
no miner wants this fork!

do you know what this fork does? it puts an end to mining by changing ETH! that means all the investment these miners have made in their mining rigs is down the toilet because they can no longer mine it.

do you still think miners are pushing for this fork?

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Is this a good thing or a bad thing?
the fork in general is a very bad thing in my opinion. first of all it is changing ETH fundamentally and that is always bringing unexpected things which are not good.
on top of it, this fork will make the rich super rich. meaning the devs who hold 72 million premined coins will become super rich by staking their coins and doing absolutely nothing.

in other words ethereum will become less and less fair every day.

Well this is an obvious realization that I didn't mention and a lot of people is not realizing as well: Once the PoW to PoS change happens, all of the current hashrate invested in Ethereum (ETH) is going to be going somewhere else... this is an interesting speculation: where the hashrate will go at? It's obvious they aren't going to sell all that gear so it's an allocation of hashrate that's comming and pretty big.

According to this, ETH uses "Ethash", what the hell is that?



I hope the gear that is used to be mined for ETH can be used somewhere else, otherwise it is a disaster, all the miners mining ETH will be forced to sell their gear.

Amazing how far off the BTC/ETH numbers are today!

BTC

$70B+

ETH

$27B+
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September 09, 2017, 11:21:53 PM
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The reddit post says the fork would happen not now, but at the Metropolis Byzantium go live. So both forks are expected at the same time.

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September 10, 2017, 12:00:07 AM
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Never heard anything about a possibility of hardfork from Ethereum but if it is to happen today then a lot would be waiting for the dumping of Ethereum and investors even traders will be waiting to buy them too. But I highly doubt it is happening though, no big news about this event happening.
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September 10, 2017, 08:45:54 AM
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Never heard anything about a possibility of hardfork from Ethereum but if it is to happen today then a lot would be waiting for the dumping of Ethereum and investors even traders will be waiting to buy them too. But I highly doubt it is happening though, no big news about this event happening.
No big news , yes, when there is hardfork , there will be debat before that. I see no anything urgent, so relax and I think everything is OK. NEO is Chinese ETH, Eth no need hardfork Chinese has made by themselves.
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September 10, 2017, 12:37:21 PM
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I hope the gear that is used to be mined for ETH can be used somewhere else, otherwise it is a disaster, all the miners mining ETH will be forced to sell their gear.

While there are video cards that are "specialized" I believe most can be easily re-directed to mine other coins.  Most don't want change since the current set-up payment is good.

I know a little about this because we also mine a little with 2 rigs.

Im not talking about videocards, these are casual miners. I mean ASICs, or any machines that are specialized in mining whatever algorithm a coin uses.

Does ETHhash have ASIC or any specialized gear to mine, or is the hashrate of ethereum all mined on farms of GPU's?

If it's specialized hardware, then can this specialized hardware be reused onto other algorithms, if so what are these?
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