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June 03, 2013, 07:59:53 PM |
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"Uniformed terrorist gang robs small-time entrepeneurs in plain daylight" I like this version. |
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June 03, 2013, 10:35:02 PM |
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Well, given that they're doing it wholesale, and this is just one tiny fudge, aren't there bigger fish to fry? I mean, all he did was leave out "could."
One word is all it takes to make the truth a lie. The real question is why was the title "Police seize counterfeit goods from stores" not chosen? The answer is obvious: because the truth is boring. This is huge mission creep for DHS and by the logic that 'could fund terrorist' basically applies to ANY profit making venture. Nothing about the goods being counterfeit makes it MORE likely to fund terrorists. And I am not against legitimate raids by local police after a warning has been given that goods are counterfeit so long as counterfeit does not extend into 'gray market' (non counterfeit goods intended for a different market) goods. That is also mission creep and should be handled with just a lawsuit. |
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June 04, 2013, 04:37:59 AM |
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Homeland Security raids mall kiosks Ed Drantch Posted by: Emily Lenihan AMHERST, N.Y. (WIVB) - Homeland Security investigators walked out with bags and boxes full of suspected counterfeit goods, after a raid at the Boulevard Mall. They seized cell phone cases and other merchandise that they believe violate trademark, copyright and intellectual property patents. Three different kiosks were raided at the Boulevard Mall, late Monday morning. At the same time, stores were being raided at the Walden Galleria, in Cheektowaga. Investigators served several search warrants there, seizing similar goods. These warrants come after undercover agents purchased goods from these stores. Investigators say these items were deemed fake by industry experts. Homeland Security investigators say it is vital they stop the sale of these suspected counterfeit goods, because money spent could be going toward criminal networks. Terrorist networks, HSI says, could be selling knock off goods to make money. www.wivb.com/dpp/news/crime/homeland-security-raids-mall-kiosksI guess they shouldn't have been selling illegal counterfeit goods then, huh? |
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June 04, 2013, 07:46:28 AM |
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Being German, this reminds me somehow of the german GeStaPo (Geheime Staatspolizei, "Secret State Police"), a police-like organization which was established and active during the 3rd Reich, a rather bleak era for Germany in the first third of the last century.
Their equivalent for "terrorists" where "Jews". They could make up any kind of case or investigation when they put the word "Jew" in it. And arrest and incarcerate you immediately for an indetermined time, in any place of their choice, with no judge, no warrant, no right to talk to a lawyer, in fact without any rights of anything at all.
"They could be supporting Jews. They have friends that are Jews. They bought from/sold to Jews. They helped Jews. They had sex with Jews." And so on.
Bad things seem to have a tendency of iteration, sometimes just the names change.
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June 04, 2013, 02:48:29 PM |
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"It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a Free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even of his personal services to the defense of it." -George Washington
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June 04, 2013, 02:56:35 PM |
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Well, some discussions provoke a comparison to Hitler a little faster than others. This one, I'm surprised it took this long. |
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June 04, 2013, 05:06:18 PM |
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Godwin is not god. The comparison is just, and if you are as old as you claim, you know it. This country is not the one I grew up in. It barely resembles it. And I'm only 44. |
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June 05, 2013, 07:45:47 AM |
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Just imagine how much of Govt bitch one must be to defend this Protect-The-Fatherland-From-Terrorists fairytale. Nationalism is a mental disorder.
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June 05, 2013, 07:53:33 AM |
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Just imagine how much of Govt bitch one must be to defend this Protect-The-Fatherland-From-Terrorists fairytale. Nationalism is a mental disorder.
Sadly, I don't have to imagine: ..snip...
The flip side is that if the DHS got involved, they probably have more evidence than a bunch of counterfeit merchandise. There could be an absolute bucket of reasons that the DHS did this and I highly doubt it is solely because they thought that terrorists were using the products as income. That is personal speculation on my part though. Other than that, I agree that the DHS handling this was extreme, but as far as I'm concerned, it was far from the wrong thing to do.
I guess they shouldn't have been selling illegal counterfeit goods then, huh?
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