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April 05, 2018, 04:17:28 AM
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sometimes it is fun to cheat, as long as you are not harming anyone I don't see any problem with that. like when you are playing a friendly card game at home with a bunch of people you know, it may not even be for money Grin
I have never done it but I have to admit I have thought about doing it.

but when it is fixing games and stuff like that which can harm others and also when it can be considered thievery, then that is it right at all.
I agree. There are some times that I have done some things just to want to play smart or you know that idea of winning is going to make you somehow feel special. In the general world, like you said, when it may end up affecting the opponent badly, it is highly unethical and a screwed up behavior. I would not lie though, I have tried to look for ways to beat online casinos before but all ended up inconsequential. However, in the real world, I have done this for few times.

Beating a house had become possible when observing some similar patterns. I spent long hours for analysis and also big money to frequent those gambling houses. I am not sure it all was being covered by ethics of general world or gambling world. Honestly I never mid them. I made some profits and I spent them again for gambling and got enough entertainments and satisfaction.

I must say when we are not harming anyone then all our activities must be covered under some ethics for sure. Even though, we need to be careful for following few basics of being a human then everything will be fine as per my experience.
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April 05, 2018, 05:34:06 AM
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It's very difficult to cheat in online gambling, but in real life, in casinos, it's possible. I think if the stakes were high enough I might get tempted to try cheating. Before you condemn me think about it for a second.
You are sitting next to someone at the table and see that he's not covering his cards well enough so that you're able to peek. Would you tell him, or try to ignore what you see? Or maybe you'd play along and call it luck? If it was a game with friends I'd tell him, but if those were strangers playing for money, i'd take advantage.
To cheat is a helpless, I try to warn him/her of someone cheating, I certainly do not agree with him. If I ignore the trick, it is a trick against me.


I think I will try to tells the employee that there is one person that trying to cheat the games. I think if I tell him, it will be a little debate because I am sure that he will defend his self and say that he doesn't did that. so it will be better if I can meet the employee and tells about this by a secret so that person will get the time with them.

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April 05, 2018, 07:53:08 AM
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It's very difficult to cheat in online gambling, but in real life, in casinos, it's possible. I think if the stakes were high enough I might get tempted to try cheating. Before you condemn me think about it for a second.
You are sitting next to someone at the table and see that he's not covering his cards well enough so that you're able to peek. Would you tell him, or try to ignore what you see? Or maybe you'd play along and call it luck? If it was a game with friends I'd tell him, but if those were strangers playing for money, i'd take advantage.
To cheat is a helpless, I try to warn him/her of someone cheating, I certainly do not agree with him. If I ignore the trick, it is a trick against me.


I think I will try to tells the employee that there is one person that trying to cheat the games. I think if I tell him, it will be a little debate because I am sure that he will defend his self and say that he doesn't did that. so it will be better if I can meet the employee and tells about this by a secret so that person will get the time with them.
Personally I will not do anything like that but I will simply leave off that place for sure. Because I just want not to create any problem for myself and for the on-going environment of others rather than finding a solution for cheats. It may sound selfish but that is the reality actually I am believing in to. It may against the general ethics of human being still I do follow this for my peaceful life.
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April 05, 2018, 08:21:52 AM
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It's very difficult to cheat in online gambling, but in real life, in casinos, it's possible. I think if the stakes were high enough I might get tempted to try cheating. Before you condemn me think about it for a second.
You are sitting next to someone at the table and see that he's not covering his cards well enough so that you're able to peek. Would you tell him, or try to ignore what you see? Or maybe you'd play along and call it luck? If it was a game with friends I'd tell him, but if those were strangers playing for money, i'd take advantage.
To cheat is a helpless, I try to warn him/her of someone cheating, I certainly do not agree with him. If I ignore the trick, it is a trick against me.


I think I will try to tells the employee that there is one person that trying to cheat the games. I think if I tell him, it will be a little debate because I am sure that he will defend his self and say that he doesn't did that. so it will be better if I can meet the employee and tells about this by a secret so that person will get the time with them.
Personally I will not do anything like that but I will simply leave off that place for sure. Because I just want not to create any problem for myself and for the on-going environment of others rather than finding a solution for cheats. It may sound selfish but that is the reality actually I am believing in to. It may against the general ethics of human being still I do follow this for my peaceful life.
I will not blame for your way of thinking and doing when you are finding someone cheats. I have seen many people are like you that is the reason some misbehaving people are enjoying their action so far. You need to go legally so that you will not lose your peace at the same time you can find chances to get punishment for those people. Different people will be having different opinion moreover I cannot force anything to you.
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April 05, 2018, 10:25:39 AM
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It's very difficult to cheat in online gambling, but in real life, in casinos, it's possible. I think if the stakes were high enough I might get tempted to try cheating. Before you condemn me think about it for a second.
You are sitting next to someone at the table and see that he's not covering his cards well enough so that you're able to peek. Would you tell him, or try to ignore what you see? Or maybe you'd play along and call it luck? If it was a game with friends I'd tell him, but if those were strangers playing for money, i'd take advantage.
To cheat is a helpless, I try to warn him/her of someone cheating, I certainly do not agree with him. If I ignore the trick, it is a trick against me.


I think I will try to tells the employee that there is one person that trying to cheat the games. I think if I tell him, it will be a little debate because I am sure that he will defend his self and say that he doesn't did that. so it will be better if I can meet the employee and tells about this by a secret so that person will get the time with them.
People always cheat and you can’t even stop them. Either in the case you are a boss and your employee have cheated on you or if you are the employee and your boss have cheated on you. Reasons is no one agrees to accept that he has done anything wrong. Until and unless there are some evidences or some physical bodies that can be shown to prove your cheat. Still things are always confused.
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April 05, 2018, 05:42:39 PM
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sometimes it is fun to cheat, as long as you are not harming anyone I don't see any problem with that. like when you are playing a friendly card game at home with a bunch of people you know, it may not even be for money Grin
I have never done it but I have to admit I have thought about doing it.

but when it is fixing games and stuff like that which can harm others and also when it can be considered thievery, then that is it right at all.
I agree. There are some times that I have done some things just to want to play smart or you know that idea of winning is going to make you somehow feel special. In the general world, like you said, when it may end up affecting the opponent badly, it is highly unethical and a screwed up behavior. I would not lie though, I have tried to look for ways to beat online casinos before but all ended up inconsequential. However, in the real world, I have done this for few times.

Beating a house had become possible when observing some similar patterns. I spent long hours for analysis and also big money to frequent those gambling houses. I am not sure it all was being covered by ethics of general world or gambling world. Honestly I never mid them. I made some profits and I spent them again for gambling and got enough entertainments and satisfaction.

I must say when we are not harming anyone then all our activities must be covered under some ethics for sure. Even though, we need to be careful for following few basics of being a human then everything will be fine as per my experience.
I do follow all human morals while gambling. Even my first priority is making money still I never hurt nor cheat anyone. When we are afraid of God then we will never make any such mistakes. Gambling can be used for anything like for money making or for entertainment but only when we gamble by following ethics then only we can lead a good life without any feeling of guilty.
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April 06, 2018, 10:02:43 AM
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I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.

Well I would say I have never cheated on gambling as well, but it kind on depends on how far your ethics go. For instance I played soccer when I was younger. Not a very high level, just regional and school level, but they were official competitions, and there was money and prizes involved, etc. So it wasn't just a game with some friends.

Like I said I never cheated in a grand scale, like arranged matches etc, but for instance let's say you make a foul and the referee does not see it. Even though you know you made the foul, isn't it unethical or considering cheating not saying anything? It's kind of a gray area, because it's not your decision to make, but you know you are wrong, and you are not even trying to do anything to change it, so maybe that's cheating as well.

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April 06, 2018, 10:58:04 AM
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It's very difficult to cheat in online gambling, but in real life, in casinos, it's possible. I think if the stakes were high enough I might get tempted to try cheating. Before you condemn me think about it for a second.
You are sitting next to someone at the table and see that he's not covering his cards well enough so that you're able to peek. Would you tell him, or try to ignore what you see? Or maybe you'd play along and call it luck? If it was a game with friends I'd tell him, but if those were strangers playing for money, i'd take advantage.
To cheat is a helpless, I try to warn him/her of someone cheating, I certainly do not agree with him. If I ignore the trick, it is a trick against me.
I have always believed ethics count in everything, and as tempting as it would be, I would rather just look away or tell him to please cover his cards well.

Yeah, it sounds ridiculous and it takes a lot of principle and discipline to be able to do that, but it can be done. However, it totally depends on how some people see it, some may think it is part of the game, but the last time I checked, peeping into someone's card is cheating and cheating is unethical.
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April 06, 2018, 06:01:28 PM
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I really don't think ethics counts in winning, or gambling, this is a competitive environment, so any unfair advantage you can get to win should be taken.

So long as you are playing by the rules, it shouldn't matter how you win, whether by using sneaky tactics, loopholes or tricks, this is gambling. You need every advantage you can get since you're playing against stacked odds.

That being said, when playing with friends, you should be ethical, as it's not right to screw people over.
I know a lot of people are going to be saying this. Personally, gambling is a game and every player should know better to keep their cards out of the opponent's eye but in the real sense, it totally depends on each individual and how they perceive cheating in general. While some may find it amusing and as a bit of luck opened for them, some will count it as a very bad thing to consider doing. This is totally about the person in question being ethical in their response to things generally.
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April 07, 2018, 05:38:43 AM
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Maybe for some people, they could afford to let go of their life principles on the premise of earning in the process. This is not new, however, as there were many times in the past that people would sell their principles just so they could earn something bigger, as they think, in return. Hence, I can say that it would depend on the individual. The latter holds the cards as to whether they would take into consideration ethics when gambling or trading per se. Because as odd as it may sound, people that greatly values ethics would not even think of 'gambling' if we meant gambling in the local sense of the word. Because generally, gambling is frowned upon by most religions and conservatives.
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