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November 07, 2013, 04:42:30 AM
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We are far from the moment when 1 BTC will be too expensive to buy. But too volatile to buy, this can become a problem, for non-traders.

Sometimes, if it looks too bullish, it's actually bearish
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November 07, 2013, 04:59:26 AM
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OP, you're right on point with your thinking.  I agree, people will not buy fractions of Bitcoins in mass and yes, there is likely a cap on the price of Bitcoins or any crypto.  However, the "gold rush" mentality will still live on and that's when people will look to alt-currencies.  What's the "next big money maker?"  99% of people purchasing crypto are doing so for pure speculation, not for actual use.  It's about "getting rich", not changing the world.  

Now, as more people get more educated about what crypto is and assuming they want to actually use it to transact, they will realize there is no reason to pay a premium for a brand name like "Bitcoin", because it offers no advantages over the next crypto or even an exact copy of Bitcoin.  (It is open source after all)  Crypto will likely reach an equalization point where it won't matter that there are only 21 million Bitcoins because the only thing that matters, is its ability to store value.  That can be accomplished with any crypto.  Bitcoin isn't special, it's just first.  So why deal in fractions of crypto when you can deal in whole numbers of another, equally effective crypto?  Not to mention, Bitcoin doesn't scale so there is obviously going to be a limit to what's realistic.  Notice I said realistic, not delusional.  Roll Eyes

What I say is, get rich while people are still ignorant.  Because the time will come when crypto is as common as fiat and equally as inexpensive to own and utilize as a store of value.  Maybe Bitcoin will retain some collectors item appeal for being the first big crypto, but likely not more than that because, there is just no point to stick with one, super expensive crypto when they all do the same thing and some can and will do it better than Bitcoin.  


Bitcoin is the gold of the crypto world. Yes there might be need for silver too. But you don't seem to understand that gold is a good store of value not because of any superior quality over other metals but because of it's scarcity. And people need a good store of value.
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November 07, 2013, 05:18:47 AM
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good to see that it didnt talk more than post #4 for the original poster to be rightly ridiculed for not understanding basic math
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November 07, 2013, 08:23:18 AM
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Bitcoin is the gold of the crypto world. Yes there might be need for silver too. But you don't seem to understand that gold is a good store of value not because of any superior quality over other metals but because of it's scarcity. And people need a good store of value.

Just because something is rare, does not make it valuable.  It's only "gold" because you say so.  Litecoin is the "silver" because people say so.  It's really arbitrary.  Gold is a good store of value for many more reasons than it's scarcity.    That's also why the comparison of Bitcoin to Gold is ridiculous to me.  Gold is beautiful, tangible, can be molded into art, jewelry, used as a conductor, requires nothing else to exist, has been proven over thousands of years and yes it's rare.  Bitcoin is just rare in brand name.  But is abundant as crypto.  It's nothing like gold.  It's not beautiful, tangible, it can't be molded into anything or used in a circuit board, etc, etc.  It's been proven over a mere couple of years and it certainly can not exist on its own.  It requires the internet, which requires electricity, which requires fuel, which requires infrastructure, which requires taxes, which requires government.  

Point is, it's nothing like gold and it will never be as good as gold at storing value for many reasons but the most obvious being, there will always be some form of counter party risk related to Bitcoin.  Bitcoin and all of crypto is dependent on something else to exist, thus it's existence can be terminated by someone or something else at anytime.  If I own actual gold, it's all mine.  See the difference? One is real, the other is merely an illusion of the mind.  So by that stance, crypto and the value it stores, is only as safe as the government, taxes, infrastructure, fuel, electricity and internet that props it up.  For any signficant storage of value, I think I'll stick with real gold but hey, that's me.



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November 07, 2013, 08:52:17 AM
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good to see that it didnt talk more than post #4 for the original poster to be rightly ridiculed for not understanding basic math

That, but it is also sad to see how many people are seriously replying to OP Smiley How can you be into cryptocurrencies and not even know how to add and subtract? Amazing.

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November 07, 2013, 09:19:26 AM
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Bitcoin is the gold of the crypto world. Yes there might be need for silver too. But you don't seem to understand that gold is a good store of value not because of any superior quality over other metals but because of it's scarcity. And people need a good store of value.

Just because something is rare, does not make it valuable.  It's only "gold" because you say so.  Litecoin is the "silver" because people say so.  It's really arbitrary.  Gold is a good store of value for many more reasons than it's scarcity.    That's also why the comparison of Bitcoin to Gold is ridiculous to me.  Gold is beautiful, tangible, can be molded into art, jewelry, used as a conductor, requires nothing else to exist, has been proven over thousands of years and yes it's rare.  Bitcoin is just rare in brand name.  But is abundant as crypto.  It's nothing like gold.  It's not beautiful, tangible, it can't be molded into anything or used in a circuit board, etc, etc.  It's been proven over a mere couple of years and it certainly can not exist on its own.  It requires the internet, which requires electricity, which requires fuel, which requires infrastructure, which requires taxes, which requires government.  

Point is, it's nothing like gold and it will never be as good as gold at storing value for many reasons but the most obvious being, there will always be some form of counter party risk related to Bitcoin.  Bitcoin and all of crypto is dependent on something else to exist, thus it's existence can be terminated by someone or something else at anytime.  If I own actual gold, it's all mine.  See the difference? One is real, the other is merely an illusion of the mind.  So by that stance, crypto and the value it stores, is only as safe as the government, taxes, infrastructure, fuel, electricity and internet that props it up.  For any signficant storage of value, I think I'll stick with real gold but hey, that's me.




Man, all your posts are weak sauce. You offer opinion only, no facts. No real substantial arguments for anything you write.

When the Spanish invaded Peru, they kidnapped one of the Inca leaders and asked for all their gold. The Incas were relieved and gave them all of it, because they didn't think Gold was anything special. This argument for why gold is so special is bullcrap. Its not the most precious metal. Its not the most utilized metal. Its not the most beautiful metal. Its simple given value by public opinion. And hype.

Bitcoin, unlike gold can be used for business to customer transactions, business to business tranactions, frictionless exchange, borderless exchange, mobile purchasing. Like gold it can me a store of wealth asset, but unlike Gold it only have a finite amount.

You absolutely fail to realize that Gold is valuable because of the massive amount of power, money and interest in keeping it so.

And that is exactly the point I make with BTC. One integrated into society, it will have a massive amount of power, money and interest from people and institutions that will want to make sure it maintains its value.

All this pie in the sky utopian hopes you have for a multi-crypto currency world, rubbish. Maybe in 2050 there will be several cryptos, serving different purposes. But in the near future, BTC will have a tremendous, probably insurmountable lead as the worlds leading crypto currency. Nothing out there offers a game changer in that regard.

You made your bet with Ripple. Lets talk again in 5 years.
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November 07, 2013, 09:23:48 AM
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I don't even know where to start on this thread. So I am not going to. Have a nice day.

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November 07, 2013, 09:36:34 AM
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So the question is, what's more important.  Bitcoin as a speculative commodity?  Or Bitcoin as a store of value and payment medium?


Bitcoin advantage is it is used already as a payment medium, many merchants use Bitcoin as a pay option. The speculation and trading is secondary as some people see profit can be made here.
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November 07, 2013, 09:39:30 AM
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I agree with Coinseeker. The higher the price of Bitcoin, the more people will look for alternatives. I wouldn't have a problem switching to something really better. You can not make a better gold, it is unique, but you can make a better crypto. I am sure these high prices and popularity of Bitcoin are really good incentives for people to improve the crypto tech. The infrastructure will naturally follow.

You're right here.

Something better is coming. It's looming on the horizon.
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