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November 12, 2013, 04:24:13 AM
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While I agree with a lot of things said on this thread, history keeps reminding us that it's very often the case the fall of one great hegemony/tyranny will only give birth to a more ruthless/fierce one, that's, probably, until Bitcoin. The status quo should not be destroyed until we're sure we have one technically superior to replace it.


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November 12, 2013, 04:24:30 AM
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It got really bad from this year, when any financial institution who has business in USA  are required to report all transactioins of US Citizen & Green Card holders.  In order for the banks and other financial companies to comply with the requirement, it would cost them in millions, so the cheapest solution to keep in the business was to shut out Americans.

Americans created the laws and the same Americans who got booted from the banks and brokerage accounts all over the world.  Americans can THANK their Democrats!!!   Grin Grin Grin

It is creating a lot of troubles for many Americans abroad.  You can't do much without a bank account now days.




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November 12, 2013, 04:35:16 AM
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It got really bad from this year, when any financial institution who has business in USA  are required to report all transactioins of US Citizen & Green Card holders.  In order for the banks and other financial companies to comply with the requirement, it would cost them in millions, so the cheapest solution to keep in the business was to shut out Americans.

Americans created the laws and the same Americans who got booted from the banks and brokerage accounts all over the world.  Americans can THANK their Democrats!!!   Grin Grin Grin

It is creating a lot of troubles for many Americans abroad.  You can't do much without a bank account now days.


As I recall, the cost of operation of FACTA is one order of magnitude MORE than the taxes brought in, and it is to be borne largely by the foreign financial operators.  The revenues are not expected to be particularly meaningful anyway in the scheme of things.

It seems pretty clear to me that this is not about tax revenue particularly.  My best guess is that it is about lubing up the machinery needed for significant capital controls.  Ah well...I've always theorized Bitcoin will bump along until it is truly needed, then take off on a fairly steep trajectory toward it's theoretical potential...


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November 12, 2013, 08:02:55 AM
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Why are some international payment companies not allowing Americans to join?

Because by doing so they make themselves targets of the USA.

Think Liberty Reserve or Megauploads if you have any doubt.

No US customers, no risk from the USA.


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that's right. Even just regular back accounts can be hard for US persons to open.
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November 14, 2013, 10:20:30 AM
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It seems pretty clear to me that this is not about tax revenue particularly.  My best guess is that it is about lubing up the machinery needed for significant capital controls. 

Definitely. I read somewhere that the estimations on how much tax money this will bring back makes it just not worthy, if that was the only motivation.

It already works as capital controls, actually. And it's also a surveillance tool.
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November 14, 2013, 11:43:30 AM
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Not allowing Americans to join? Not allowing Americans to join? Let's go kick their ass!

Team America World Police - Fuck Yeah!


It no surprise with American's like this why people around the world hate American's. Sad

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December 06, 2013, 07:21:57 PM
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Not allowing Americans to join? Not allowing Americans to join? Let's go kick their ass!

Team America World Police - Fuck Yeah!


It no surprise with American's like this why people around the world hate American's. Sad



its called humor

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December 06, 2013, 07:28:22 PM
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Not allowing Americans to join? Not allowing Americans to join? Let's go kick their ass!

Team America World Police - Fuck Yeah!


It no surprise with American's like this why people around the world hate American's. Sad



its called humor

He doesn't even realize I'm making fun of America. Humor is the one thing I've noticed that really doesn't cross national boundaries very well.

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