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February 23, 2019, 04:08:58 PM
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Why does it sound like it has happened with you, I'm not pointing fingers at you but I have a doubt. Anyways I personally know someone(suppose A) who has fallen prey to this thing you mentioned of in 4-5 lines but the guy(suppose B) who accused A of cheating campaigns with alt accounts didn't know each other at all so I don't know whether was it for revenge or eliminating competition because B was later found to have multiple alt accounts and was also cheating campaigns.
If someone wants to check this case I can link the thread.
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February 24, 2019, 06:52:36 AM
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what the OP is wondering about is certainly something that happens , by looking at the reputation section or the known-alts topic, you can see that many people get accused for using alt account with some poor evidence.

Mikewith's first contribution in the known alts thread was some five hours ago so it's interesting he's speaking with such an air of authority.

As OP of the thread he's so graciously referenced, I can't recall reading that happening often - rarely would be a better description.  You'll find abuse in forms you won't even know has happened to you such as person's who have given you trust are peer pressured into removing their trust.  Might sound like Butt Hurt, it's not, it's just answering your question with facts.

Good luck.

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February 24, 2019, 05:00:37 PM
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This is one of the reasons I don't investigate the (usually very big) threads that link accounts together through Eth-addresses in campaign spreadsheets.
But the hierarchy loves these type of connections,merit,eth addresses, date of registration patter? wouldnt you get negged if you disagree with their beliefs?i like what marlboroza is doing ,tagging alts with the use of those said connections,merits,and date of registration  Wink basically he isnt following what theymos have said,a total abuser here and the drama of leaving the DT position doesnt make sense because he is still tagging people while he has campaign of leaving his position .  Cry
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February 24, 2019, 08:03:17 PM
Last edit: February 24, 2019, 08:49:58 PM by marlboroza
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It can happen but usually mostly it is "my brother's/sister's/friend's/cousin's account" excuse. There are some huge farming rings where people hire spammers and pay them in their local currency for tokens they receive(trust me on this one, I have received few PM's about this business, together with pictures of the "team of spammers")

But the hierarchy loves these type of connections,merit,eth addresses, date of registration patter? wouldnt you get negged if you disagree with their beliefs?i like what marlboroza is doing ,tagging alts with the use of those said connections,merits,and date of registration  Wink basically he isnt following what theymos have said,a total abuser here and the drama of leaving the DT position doesnt make sense because he is still tagging people while he has campaign of leaving his position .  Cry
Do you mean something like this, 2eugenio:




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Wait, this is even better, ACEugenio:




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This address 3QRy91zsHAb4QzpihYsTbC9kwakNj254uE connects last 2 banned accounts with other 2 banned accounts ...and...and following these accounts and merit trail https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=loof99 from one of banned accounts, I have found, among other things, this:

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cryptosomething...this crypto...:



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That would explain why someone is ranting around whole day long  Cheesy

@OP Sorry for hijacking  Embarrassed
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February 24, 2019, 09:43:19 PM
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Mikewith's first contribution in the known alts thread was some five hours ago so it's interesting he's speaking with such an air of authority.


Just because I don't post in that thread , it does not mean I don't see what is going on there, this is one of reasons why i don't give much weight to what is posted there, lack of solid evidence.

you simply came to conclude that since i have not posted there then it's surprising/interesting that i am speaking  "with such an air of authority."

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it's just answering your question with facts.

I have not asked any questions , neither i see any facts in your post  ( except for the one about my first post )



please don't get me wrong, i have nothing personal against you, never interacted with you before my first post in your topic , and you have never accused me for having an alt " yet  Grin" ,   adding to this  , that your efforts against potential "scammers" are highly appreciated, my only concern is that most evidence used to prove the connection between those accounts are poor to say the least, and giving the fact that the damage of false accusation can be huge, i chose not to like your way of connecting accounts , but what do i know ?   



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February 24, 2019, 09:58:15 PM
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Are there cases on the forum when an honest user is framed by scammers.

Sure, some time ago another Dutch translator and I were framed by a competitor translator who happened to be friends with Lauda.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hy2nECAXGCIaYN8H3746yU6fkSNGdQn-b11oDSZmBr8/

Some people value money more than honesty. Sad but true.
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February 25, 2019, 02:42:12 AM
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@OP Sorry for hijacking  Embarrassed
You stupid moron,i am mad because of my unrightful red tag,so you just need to fake it till you make it (this whole leaving drama) ?
so these accounts now are connected to me? you cant connect it with the addresses,date of registration and now you are using last logged,very intelligent indeed you are one true abuser feel free to ban/paint those accounts if it pleases you.,send me regards to those who got banned  Wink
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February 28, 2019, 04:42:44 PM
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~Why does it sound like it has happened with you, I'm not pointing fingers at you but I have a doubt.~

If this happened to me, I would point it out and provide additional information that is needed. Just on the forum a lot of disgruntled users who are trying to prove that they left a negative feedback without evidence. And it became interesting to me, because such a situation can occur.

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February 28, 2019, 04:50:49 PM
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Yep, all of that has happened in the past, along with some mistakes I've seen where members have entered someone else's btc or eth address when applying to a campaign.  This is why I generally don't tag many accounts anymore when it looks like two or more are linked.  I've had to remove quite a few negs because of this, and I'm not comfortable with that level of inaccuracy.

On the other hand, I do think often accounts can be linked by these sorts of transactions, but it's very difficult to tell the difference.  We all know damn well that bounty abuse happens and that a lot of bounty hunters think no one is paying attention and that they won't get caught trying to cheat.

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February 28, 2019, 05:11:58 PM
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On the other hand, I do think often accounts can be linked by these sorts of transactions, but it's very difficult to tell the difference.  We all know damn well that bounty abuse happens and that a lot of bounty hunters think no one is paying attention and that they won't get caught trying to cheat.

I totally agree with you. I think that there are even such farms in which it is impossible to track the links between the accounts, as they adapt very quickly and know well how they are being tracked.

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March 02, 2019, 02:44:33 AM
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it's true, one could argue that many of those "accusations/links" are true, but they are pretty much far from accurate, therefore i think you did well on "revising" your feedback on such cases, specially if there was no harm/scam involved.

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