"Fake Bills In Circulation"

[The-One-Above-All]

Personally I don't really give a fuck about account sales as long as they aren't used to rob people. I can't say I give much of a fuck about Nutilduhh either. I do however give a fuck about pointing out the double standards that everyone who marked Bill Gator red but refuses to mark Nutilduhh red because they have the brown mark of protection on their nose. All of you preach about how what you are doing is for the forum. This is a lie, serving the forum is just a pretext you use to control it like a pathetic obsessive compulsive nerd mafia, and inconsistencies such as these prove it.

As has been explained to you by different people several times already, there's giant differences between my situation and others:

1. I attempted to sell my own account. Didn't hide the fact that i was doing it.
2. I couldn't find a buyer, so I kept it.
3. I would now never sell my account.

There's several ways I could prove to you I've always had this account and you would reject every one.

For instance, I once won 0.02 from BiPolarBob during one of his giveaways, but I deleted my BTC address from his thread. With enough hunting, I could probably find it and sign a private message from it. Its not a staked BTC address, and nobody outside of Bob or that thread knew about it. I also have a NEM address I can still sign from -- I was one of the original NEM stakeholders and heavily active throughout its launch. I also one time paid for a t-shirt using NXT, could probably dig up that address as well.

At least some of the other DT are probably taking theymos' guidance into consideration upon unleashing the trust system from his direct control:

- You should be willing to forgive past mistakes if the person seems unlikely to do it again.

Obviously you very deeply give a fuck because you've brought this topic up several times already. Its not a black-and-white issue and your attempts to turn it into such have proven futile, even after persisting for months. Kind of like CH, you're becoming unhinged over your obsessive desire to fit a square peg into a round hole.

Sorry for taking this discussion off-topic, marlboroza.

LOL I will keep handing you shovels. Keep smashing through that hard layer of rocks  hahah

Look Notildah. Let me explain it to you again.

There is a GIANT difference when you are talking about TRUST. It comes down to intent. That is the most important thing here with account sales.

This post (if it is true) looks even worse on your part.

So here you are https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134507.msg50719875#msg50719875

a/ fully convinced that people should have red trust for selling their account because it facilitates scamming
b/ going as far as calling people EVIL that sell their accounts, going to make a list of EVIL people were you who sold their accounts.

So not only are you fully intending to facilitate scamming, you are knowingly acting in an evil manner.

Also you are now saying you never stopped wanting to facilitate scams or being evil IT WAS ONLY YOU COULD NOT FIND A BUYER?

So you didn't even have a change of heart ? you just could not dupe anyone into buying your crappy account haha

Bill gator on the other hand likely never intended to facilitate or scam or be EVIL at all.  Who would I trust more knowing the different intentions here??  That is the GIANT difference.

Also are you now telling us you were given MILLIONS of dollars as a NEM stake holder and now need to beg for 0.02BTC loans recently?? what happen you EVIL bastard? child sacrifices not coming cheap these days or something lol  ? so a NEM stake holder and holding a bag of dash before and NOW are flat out broke begging for btc dust loans??  who says being evil does not pay lol.  Or did nutildah not include those in the account sale to some broke bum that spent out his only 0.3btc buying that damaged account. He booby trapped it with anti account sales posts before unloading it ...evil bastard.

EVIL, scam facilitating loser.

Not that I have too much higher opinion of bill anyway. He only cares about this "red trust abuse" now he got painted red. Unlike a true legend that defends others and noobs that were getting picked on that had nothing to do with him. Piece of dirt was siding against the true legend and now it has come fully circle on him. Too bad.

Fake Notildahs in circulation does not have the same ring to it though for sure.

Moronbozo was called a gutter rat sig spammer by U2 when he busted him sig spamming from his zorrobeck account anyway, so not entirely sure why he now is worried how many accounts bill gator has. I don't think ANY of them should be in a position of trust.  

[bill gator]

I feel when you do not know the "exact events"  then it means you are hiding some events.

Allow me to politely say that you are incorrect. Innocuous things happen daily that you will not remember down the road.

He also bought it from a professional account seller and not from the original owner.

I find it so strange when people talk about things they have no idea about.
The "original owner" and the "professional account seller" are the same person.

The wordsmith multi accounter, with his style and passion for writing it does make me wonder how many other accounts he has enrolled in campaigns.

If you want the honest answer, 0, but I'm sure you would rather formulate a wild conspiracy.

If he is retired I imagine he is making a decent side income with 20+ accounts earning 0.3BTC plus a week.

TMAN, for old-times sake would you be willing to describe who I am in your head? I'd like to know how deep you think the rabbit hole goes.

The problem became, that I named my account after someone close to me and that was something I wanted to step away from.

EthanB is my handmade account, never bought or sold. bill gator and EthanB are the only two accounts I own. To put it in bozo's terms: Fake bill = Real EthanB.

I am personally against the tagging of accounts for old offenses, including bill's. However, not all others feel the same way.

The problem is that almost every single person that has tagged me for buying bill gator have refused to tag nutildah (you) for attempting to sell a legendary account, with trust long after my "offense". They are refusing to treat iluvbitcoins case, blazed, even marlboroza's with the same principles. These "others" feel however is most convenient and try to wrap it up in concepts they will throwaway and belittle when the next situation arises.

Without having a consistent criteria for tagging these accounts we'll just keep running in circles of no accountability until the hypocrisy is even more egregious.  
If the rule was that anyone involved in account buying/selling ever is to be tagged by at least half a dozen DT, then I wouldn't have anything to say.

[yogg]

If you want the honest answer, 0, but I'm sure you would rather formulate a wild conspiracy.

Well, it's not about conspiracy.
It's just about having a very very hard time to believe what you post.
About your former DT1 position, I have excluded you from my trust list because after shedding light on some events, I don't trust your judgement and actions anymore and believe you are not DT material.

This is maybe stupid, but when I read one of your latest posts, I unconsciously apply negation to it and tend to stick to this version.
I do not share my thoughts because I know that there is nothing backing them, but its been a lot of things discovered these last days !!
I'm expecting, what else will come out ?

So many things have been dig up that if there is some truth somewhere, it is very far of what you say.
If by any chance you tell the truth, you need to understand that facts make it very hard to take your words seriously.

Once bitten, twice shy.

[nutildah]

I am personally against the tagging of accounts for old offenses, including bill's. However, not all others feel the same way.

The problem is that almost every single person that has tagged me for buying bill gator have refused to tag nutildah (you) for attempting to sell a legendary account, with trust long after my "offense". They are refusing to treat iluvbitcoins case, blazed, even marlboroza's with the same principles. These "others" feel however is most convenient and try to wrap it up in concepts they will throwaway and belittle when the next situation arises.

Without having a consistent criteria for tagging these accounts we'll just keep running in circles of no accountability until the hypocrisy is even more egregious.  
If the rule was that anyone involved in account buying/selling ever is to be tagged by at least half a dozen DT, then I wouldn't have anything to say.

I was honestly trying to remove myself from the drama.

Bill, the difference between you and me is you bought your account, and I didn't. We do not fall in the same category there.

Did you honestly believe nobody was going to tag you the moment you said you bought your account? Really you should be thankful for being the recipient of a special theymos intervention that has apparently allowed you to remain in your signature campaign.

Theymos' decision is the first of its kind I've ever seen, so consider yourself lucky to be part of special treatment enjoyed by less that 0.1% of the forum.

[bill gator]

About your former DT1 position, I have excluded you from my trust list

That's fair, you're entitled to your opinion, but I don't believe that your trust feedback is appropriate nor consistent. The poster directly below yours fits the criteria for which you've left me negative trust, but you have failed to leave them negative trust.

This is maybe stupid, but when I read one of your latest posts, I unconsciously apply negation to it and tend to stick to this version.

You're not the only person doing this, and I wouldn't call you stupid for doing so; you'd be wrong, but wrong and stupid are different things.

I find it likely that this story is true
I'm looking at evidence showing that he didn't

What I've been saying isn't a fairy-tale that I've concocted, but I understand if you are weary of previous omission.
I just wouldn't distrust the things I am saying, because of the things I didn't say.

So many things have been dig up that if there is some truth somewhere, it is very far of what you say.

Which truth has been very far from what I'm saying? I'm being open.

I was honestly trying to remove myself from the drama.

That would be much easier to do than you're making it, if that was your goal.

Bill, the difference between you and me is you bought your account, and I didn't. We do not fall in the same category there.

There's differences in every case, if you want to play this "better or worse" game, at least I wasn't involving myself in the account sale(s) of a legendary account with trust associated with it. Selling your reputation is much more devious, you're right we don't fall in the same category; you are sitting in a much dirtier boat.

Now let's act like you disagree with that, I know you do, so do you think those differences are relevant in terms of feedback like this? :

Code:

Account sales encourage scams, spam, and account farming.

That one is on there twice ^


Here's another one from the guy that posted directly above you.

Code:

Account sellers and buyers are not to be trusted.

Does their feedback not apply to your situation because you were unsuccessful?

Did you honestly believe nobody was going to tag you the moment you said you bought your account?

No. I'll say that the amount of tags, and the profound hypocrisy of some of them is surprising, though.

Really you should be thankful for being the recipient of a special theymos intervention

"Should be", as if to say I am not thankful for a busy man to take time out of their life to look into this stupid shit. The first thing I did was say "Thank you" to theymos.

[marlboroza]

@Bill

I didn't tag you because you have alt accounts, I don't see you cheated sig. I tagged you because you are account buyer and liar....latest discovery, judging neutral feedbacks you have on EthanB account, trust farmer. I didn't made these connections - someone else did. I posted them. Don't blame me for people being scared to post things about you because of recent events with sensitive PM.

@CH

Moronbozo was called a gutter rat sig spammer by U2 when he busted him sig spamming from his zorrobeck account anyway

You are lying.

And what is this lie with video evidence you are shitting around forum? Are you unable to read that post? Where did I say it isn't my account?

Stop spamming lies and shitposting.