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July 31, 2020, 06:38:52 AM
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China products are cheaper but quality? No, most of their product made like disposable once damage then you need to buy again. Besides, because it is cheaper the material being used compromised. China has the worst product here in our place but the most in demand because other products are expensive compared to them. Indian products i bet not too strong like japan and us products especially when it comes to equipment.

The product quality do not matter to them as long as they are making profits and manufacturer a lot of product. Chinese people are not aware about the quality of products that they have, they are only aware about the possibility of the consumer to buy their products again and again.

Maybe, that includes in their marketing strategy, that's the reason why although it is cheaper, I guarantee you that the product will not lasts longer. While, Indian products are almost the same with Chinese products, but India is focused on perishable goods that they are selling in the market.

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July 31, 2020, 06:44:30 AM
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It's easy to say about war but in my own analysis, it also bothers us even if we don't care any of their dispute and it is too far, how if there is a faulty bioweapon which is exploded towards us, so I think there is no exemption at that time when war is actually happening inside and outside by the country, therefore, this not a joke if the European attack China and India, it is possible that economic crisis has been unstoppable to increase.
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July 31, 2020, 12:51:06 PM
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I am not really that familiar on any product coming from India so I cannot state anything on the quality of the products it has. But regarding on European and Chinese products I am pretty familiar on those most specially on the products from China since I came from an Asian country so basically, we are on of the countries where their products are being traded and imported. When it comes to European products, what I can say is that they are really good in quality since Western countries are well-known to have good quality products compared to Asian. But the exception is Japan since they own a high technology that is why their products do have high quality as well that can be comparable to Western countries.

The main thing and concept that comes into the mind of people most specially for people who have already tried and owned products from China is that products do always come in low quality. Well that is basically true. But still there are good qualities of products coming from their country. It just so happen that people patronize low cost products coming from China since it is affordable that is why they are getting low quality products as well. What would you expect to get a high quality product with a cheaper price? That is quite impossible at this time because if you want high quality product, then you can have it if the price is right.

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July 31, 2020, 03:18:06 PM
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That is because India is far behind in terms of technology and education and hence the average Indian you find for your project would always be working more hours and he would have less technical/coding skills because of the education gap and while Indian guys would work for cheaper prices they would always take more time which basically means the work done is the same.

I have seen some amazing guys from India so can't say that everyone is bad and in fact Satya Nadela the CEO of Microsoft is Indian but that is only because he is born in India but took his formal education from US.

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July 31, 2020, 03:37:43 PM
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China products are cheaper but quality? No, most of their product made like disposable once damage then you need to buy again. Besides, because it is cheaper the material being used compromised. China has the worst product here in our place but the most in demand because other products are expensive compared to them. Indian products i bet not too strong like japan and us products especially when it comes to equipment.
It is true that Chinese products are less durable and their lifespan is much shorter as compared to standard products but sometimes you don't need durable products for example there are dustbin bags which you don't want to have of superior quality since you are going to just use them once and then dispose it.

I agree that Indian products are firstly not used worldwide and they are neither too cheap nor they are premium quality so Indian products fail to capture big market share as neither they attract the poor sector not they have the quality to satisfy the high end customers.

European products are superior no matter what someone says that is the bitter truth for them. But if you compare them price wise then sometimes Chinese products despite having inferior quality wins the race.
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August 01, 2020, 01:49:55 PM
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It is true that Chinese products are less durable and their lifespan is much shorter as compared to standard products but sometimes you don't need durable products for example there are dustbin bags which you don't want to have of superior quality since you are going to just use them once and then dispose it.

I agree that Indian products are firstly not used worldwide and they are neither too cheap nor they are premium quality so Indian products fail to capture big market share as neither they attract the poor sector not they have the quality to satisfy the high end customers.

European products are superior no matter what someone says that is the bitter truth for them. But if you compare them price wise then sometimes Chinese products despite having inferior quality wins the race.


There is a discourse that in a few years there will be a shift that Europe will be flooded with products made in Africa due to China's OBOR program in Africa. What China is doing in Africa now is copying what the United States did in China in the 90s. Chinese manufacturing will produce semi-finished goods for the African industry and the Chinese industry will begin to target the market for high quality goods as a form of shifting of Chinese manufacturing from the cheap goods industry to the high end goods industry at more competitive prices.

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August 02, 2020, 05:41:38 AM
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There are nothing worse in the world than indian guys code
That is because India is far behind in terms of technology and education and hence the average Indian you find for your project would always be working more hours and he would have less technical/coding skills because of the education gap and while Indian guys would work for cheaper prices they would always take more time which basically means the work done is the same.

I have seen some amazing guys from India so can't say that everyone is bad and in fact Satya Nadela the CEO of Microsoft is Indian but that is only because he is born in India but took his formal education from US.

Being a regular visitor to India, I can confirm this. It's not just about coding and programming. Even in the manufacturing sector, the overall productivity is very low. The productivity of an Indian laborer or a factory worker is much lower when compared to someone in the same profession in China. They take much more time, and in the end the overall quality is not satisfactory. On top of that, every now and then they have the tendency to go on strike and destroy the factory infrastructure in the name of protests. An example here:

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/5-years-on-deadly-riots-still-haunt-Maruti-Suzuki

And this is the main reason why so few companies are moving their manufacturing units to India, despite the government going all out attracting them.
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August 02, 2020, 06:23:05 AM
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My Fellow Europeans

Indians and Chinese are telling me that they make better products and offer better services then us ... Grin

What do you say to them ?

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It doesn't matter what they are claiming here because not until we see that Great effect in their economy still this claim will be a nonsense story.

if you watch this thread you will find the advantage of europe now against US so what more to india ?

but china on the other hand is proving their capacity in controlling this virus and as we know the game here,the first country that first eliminate the virus will be the first to move forward.

that same thing maybe they have already the vaccine they just dont wanna share it  because of this scenario.









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August 02, 2020, 09:41:23 PM
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I got some familiarization about European and Chinese products and what I can say they were all pretty impressive. Knowing Europe as one of the Western nations that have great access with modern technology and skillful workers to take on good productions of goods and services, no doubt that what they can produce is a good quality of product. In terms of China which is one of the largest and richest country in Asia which is the Eastern region of the world do also have a great access on modern technology that is why some mechanicals are being assembled in China added by the fact that they do have a large mass of working force because of great population that offers small amount of payment. With India, I haven't ever tried or see any Indian products yet so I cannot state any for the quality of products they produce.

When it comes to quality, there is no doubt that Europe can produce a high grade quality of products for Western nations are known for that. In China, they can do also the same thing but knowing Chinese people, they are up into gaining profits that's why they tend to focus more on quantity over quality. But they can do also produce high grade products but since the labor payment is low and they focus on creating more quantity of products, the quality is mostly being compromised which makes it a general idea that products made out of China is a low quality one.
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There is a discourse that in a few years there will be a shift that Europe will be flooded with products made in Africa due to China's OBOR program in Africa. What China is doing in Africa now is copying what the United States did in China in the 90s. Chinese manufacturing will produce semi-finished goods for the African industry and the Chinese industry will begin to target the market for high quality goods as a form of shifting of Chinese manufacturing from the cheap goods industry to the high end goods industry at more competitive prices.

China is interested in Africa, because raw materials that are needed to manufacture the electronic appliances mostly come from that continent. I am talking about metals such as Cobalt. Chinese companies now own most of the mines and extraction facilities in Africa and they export the mined ore to China, where they are processed and incorporated in to finished products.
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August 03, 2020, 05:18:07 AM
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If we are talking about products, then China loses because if I am right, they still produce their products based on quantity rather than quality, I do not know much about Indian products but I suppose that these countries need to cater their population with their quantity rather than focusing on quality because on practical standpoint, the constant production of short term products yield a better profit rather than long term.European products vary per country so we can't point out whether they win.

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August 03, 2020, 10:04:40 AM
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China often sells low quality goods abroad, as the Buyers request low prices, and Chinese factories use non-expensive materials and supplies to take the order and have some profit. It's very typical of them.
But the inner market is strictly regulated and the goods must meet state standards.
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August 04, 2020, 04:34:08 PM
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I could tell you that one of my friends looked for a place to get something done in bulk and china was still the best offer, even during the pandemic, not because they were cheap but they were agreeing to use the material that my friend requested for a much cheaper price, so he was getting that high end quality with that material used but also he was getting it cheap.

Now there were two other options, one was India as you might imagine, they said they could do a lot cheaper than china, but also use another and worse material, however my friend really thought about it because that material wasn't like horrible but just wasn't high end, if you gave Chinese version 90/100 this was 70/100 so he really considered it. Belgium also offered that same 90/100 material but was almost 4x the price, so obviously that was a bad choice. Take whatever you can from that.
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